NY - 17 dead in Bronx Apartment Fire, 9 Jan 2022

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Firefighters, Bless 'Em. Ditto Other First Responders.
@sds71 sbm for focus. Thanks for your post w informative article. I found this advice in a firefighter zine:
"Designate stairways as “attack,” “evacuation,” or “ventilation” early in the firefight."

fireengineering.com* supports NYFD's above stmt that scissors stairs hampers firefighters' efforts.
"Scissor stairs... the exit doors into the stairways may be in close proximity to each other, violating the principle of remote exits."
"...
some scissor stairs open on alternate floors:...
"... standpipe outlets are present in a particular stairway only on every other floor... Instead of hooking up one floor below the fire, you may be
forced to connect to the standpipe two floors below the fire or to wrap completely around the core to reach the fire. Preplan scissor stairs!" bbm sbm
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Bronx fire survivors file 1st lawsuit, seek $1B in damages


In addition to accusing the landlords of failing to make sure the front doors of each apartment were self-closing, the lawsuit also alleged the defendants failed to ensure that the smoke detectors at the subject premises and within each apartment at the subject premises were functioning; failed to ensure that the fire escapes were in good working order; failed to provide adequate and lawful heat, allowed alarms to go off all the time, failed to have an intercom system throughout the premises, failed to have a sprinkler system, failed to ensure that the electric lines and systems at the subject premises were in good working order."


In a parallel filing, Reyes and Martinez sued the city, alleging the Department of Buildings paid "lip service to safety issues and fire issues and are responsible for the resulting injuries and deaths."
 
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The lawsuit was filed, what just 4 days after the tragedy? It seeks 1 billion in damages for people who survived the fire. It also targets a government entity (very difficult to effectively sue) using slang in the justification.

Though 1-800 Sue Them attorneys always hype the damage amount, the totality of the 1,000,000,000 dollar claim and the other aspects seem rather "amateur hour".

Does anybody know if ambulance chasers can literally chase ambulances, then contact survivors directly? Or, do the attorneys need to be contacted by the survivors?

In short, I wonder how they found this attorney?
 
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The lawsuit was filed, what just 4 days after the tragedy? It seeks 1 billion in damages for people who survived the fire. It also targets a government entity (very difficult to effectively sue) using slang in the justification.

Though 1-800 Sue Them attorneys always hype the damage amount, the totality of the 1,000,000,000 dollar claim and the other aspects seem rather "amateur hour".

Does anybody know if ambulance chasers can literally chase ambulances, then contact survivors directly? Or, do the attorneys need to be contacted by the survivors?

In short, I wonder how they found this attorney?

4 days is not uncommon. When there are that many potential plaintiffs, it can be important to be first in line. There’s also a strict time period in which to give a public entity notice of suit.

The “1800 lawyer” types sometimes don’t really practice much. They make their $ via referral fees.

Actually chasing ambulances (or having “runners”) is against rules of professional conduct. I’m biased, but “ambulance chasers” are actually some of the most principled, ethical attorneys out there in my experience.
 
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4 days is not uncommon. When there are that many potential plaintiffs, it can be important to be first in line. There’s also a strict time period in which to give a public entity notice of suit.

The “1800 lawyer” types sometimes don’t really practice much. They make their $ via referral fees.

I’m biased, but “ambulance chasers” are actually some of the most principled, ethical attorneys out there in my experience.
Thanks for the good information regarding a time period to give a public entity notice of a suit.

I have a very different view, but that is directed at the sub industry as a business concept, not at individuals. I did like the one ambulance chaser that I knew personally.
 
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