NY - 5 people, 3 of them infants, stabbed at daycare centre, Queens, 21 Sept 2018

[dotr]

Other parents were in the nursery?
Not making a lot of sense to me

Wondering if they were picking up or dropping off babies? imo, speculation.

 

[Inthedetails]

There were 9 babies in the house at the time...and the house looks like an apartment. WTH is going on here? One 52 year old lady looking after 9 babies...that's too much for anyone????

NINE babies? Yes, that's too much.

I wonder if she targeted the youngest in the group? Newborn babies do wake up a lot - they have tiny stomachs and need to be fed every couple of hours, as we all know. Was that what triggered this?

My guess is that she provided a nursery service at a price that was more affordable than a licensed daycare. I didn't realize there was a demand for overnight nursery, though I can understand now that I think about it. (However, I have assumed that when a parent works overnight, it is so another parent or relative can watch the baby, but I suppose that option is not available to everyone.) Still seems fishy to me, I admit.

I'm still shaking my head that a 3-DAY old baby was there.

jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The stabbing occurred at about 3:40 a.m. at the facility, a residential day care center in the Flushing section of Queens, the police said. The infants, all of whom are younger than a month, were taken to NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital after the stabbing. One of the adults who was stabbed was the father of one of the infants, the police said; he was stabbed in the leg. The other adult was a co-worker of the employee and was stabbed in the torso, the police said.

While all three infants, two girls and a boy, were in critical condition, one of the girls suffered more serious injuries than the others, said Juanita Holmes, assistant chief in the police department’s Patrol Borough Queens North. The girl was not initially expected to survive, Chief Holmes said, but her condition has since improved.

When officers first arrived at the location, the employee who had cut her own wrist was unconscious, the police said. But she regained consciousness after officers applied a tourniquet to stop the bleeding, and the employee, 52, was placed in police custody.

In Queens Day Care Stabbing, 3 Infants and 2 Adults Hurt

 

[Barnabas]

Does that mean people just bring their newborns there to sleep? Strange.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[dotr]

Just have to say that i hope all of the first responders have an easier rest of the day, cannot imagine how sickening and traumatic that must have been for them, especially those with young children of their own. imo, speculation.

 

[Inthedetails]

Just have to say that i hope all of the first responders have an easier rest of the day, cannot imagine how sickening and traumatic that must have been for them, especially those with young children of their own. imo, speculation.

I agree! Though the good news is they arrived to find the babies alive. Could've been worse (not that that is any comfort).

jmo

 

[MarziPanda]

I thought it was two babies, but it is three babies!

All are newborns, one month and under.

WHY were three babies so very young in an overnight daycare? The stabbings happened in the middle of the night. Were the moms working overnight shifts? So soon after giving birth?? One baby is only 3 days old.

Something seems fishy about this.

jmo

Some mothers just can't afford to miss any work, even having just had a baby. Most countries have guaranteed paid maternity leave. Only 9 countries in the world have no guaranteed paid maternity leave. Iran has 12 weeks... Chad (in Africa) has 14 weeks... Canada 15... Vietnam 26... UK 40 weeks. The US? 0 weeks. It's up to the employer to give paid maternity leave, and some don't give any. Many people live paycheck to paycheck.

That might not be the case here, though. I do wonder if it was an extended family type situation, but 9 babies would make that unlikely. I'm glad all the victims are expected to recover.

 

[Inthedetails]

Some mothers just can't afford to miss any work, even having just had a baby. Most countries have guaranteed paid maternity leave. Only 9 countries in the world have no guaranteed paid maternity leave. Iran has 12 weeks... Chad (in Africa) has 14 weeks... Canada 15... Vietnam 26... UK 40 weeks. The US? 0 weeks. It's up to the employer to give paid maternity leave, and some don't give any. Many people live paycheck to paycheck.

That might not be the case here, though. I do wonder if it was an extended family type situation, but 9 babies would make that unlikely. I'm glad all the victims are expected to recover.

I'm all too aware of maternity-leave situation. No need to school me on that. I'm a parent in the USA, as are many on this board.

STILL seems odd that a baby who was likely spending his/her second night in life in an overnight nursery seems strange. But perhaps others disagree with my opinion. That's okay.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

Regarding the adult victims:

"The injured woman was found with multiple wounds to her torso while the man had a stab wound on his leg, she said."

5 people, including 3 infants, stabbed at New York City daycare

I wonder if the female was protecting the children and then the man tackled or grabbed the stabber. I'm thinking of the logistics of stabbing someone in the leg, and wonder if the man and the stabber were in a scuffle while that happened.

jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

It was also not immediately clear whether the day care was licensed, police said. It is in a red brick, multifamily house on a tree-lined street in the Flushing area of Queens.

"We have seen some paperwork indicating that it is a day care," Holmes said, adding the documents "indicated that they were a nursery."

Holmes said part of building served as "living quarters."

The city had received a complaint in 2011 of "screaming children" at the residence, Holmes said, noting that the call came to a city hotline.

Of the children present during Friday's assault, five were girls and four were boys, she said.

Day care stabbings: 3-day-old, 2 other infants, 2 adults attacked at in-home center in New York - CNN

 

[dotr]

Three Infants, Two Adults Stabbed at Queens Day Care
"The 52-year-old woman, who had stabbed herself, was taken into police custody. A law-enforcement official identified the suspect as Yu Fen Wang."

Not certain if this link is fine or not, so consider speculation for now ( although it sounds like it has a ring of truth)
imo speculation.
The Market Ticker - Was She Illegal? | Economy
"Two senior law enforcement officials told The Daily Beast that the building houses a birth-tourism facility for Chinese women who give birth to a baby in the United States so that the child can automatically obtain American citizenship."

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“State records indicate that a business called Mei Xin Care Inc. was registered at the address, but there was no listed phone number for that company.“
5 people, 3 of them infants, stabbed at NYC day care center

Mei Xin Care Inc. | Company-detail.com

“The location, Mei Xin Care Inc, is described as a day care that also provides overnight child care center for people who work night shifts. All child care centers in New York City are regulated by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, but a Heavy search of licensed NYC centers on the DOHMH database does not include this location address or facility name.”
Five Stabbed Including 3 Infants in Queens Childcare Center Attack | Heavy.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“The business was not licensed to operate as a day care at that address, New York's Office of Children and Family Services said in a statement.

"OCFS is saddened by this horrific situation and investigating it as a possible illegal operation," the statement said, adding that state-regulated child care facilities are prohibited from caring for babies less that six weeks of age without extenuating circumstances and OCFS approval.”
Three newborn babies, two adults stabbed at New York City day care

 

[Inthedetails]

“State records indicate that a business called Mei Xin Care Inc. was registered at the address, but there was no listed phone number for that company.“
5 people, 3 of them infants, stabbed at NYC day care center

Mei Xin Care Inc. | Company-detail.com

“The location, Mei Xin Care Inc, is described as a day care that also provides overnight child care center for people who work night shifts. All child care centers in New York City are regulated by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, but a Heavy search of licensed NYC centers on the DOHMH database does not include this location address or facility name.”
Five Stabbed Including 3 Infants in Queens Childcare Center Attack | Heavy.com

I have to admit, I think it's a great idea to provide the overnight service (with a license and safely). It's a niche market I never considered. And I can see how it works best with infants as it might be to disruptive for older kids to sleep away from home.

Of course, this place is not the business model to follow! (And I'm not interested in running a nursery, but it is a niche, especially if located next to a plant, warehouse, etc that runs shifts 24hrs).

Okay, I'm veering off topic!

jmo

 

[cvaldez1975]

Three-days old baby was injured? A 20-day old baby too? WTF!?

This story is a bit confusing. The place is a daycare center in someone's home and children were among the injured, but the stabbings happened at 4am. Were the people in the house all family members? Or, was this a daycare that took care of children overnight? Surely the 3-day old and 20-day old babies must be relatives of someone in the house? The stabber is 52 so this isn't a post-partum situation for her (I'm assuming).

Confusing situation....and certainly tragic! What a HORRIBLE way to start life for those tiny, little ones. I hope we get more answers.

jmo

im just hoping they don't remember and don't scar badly. I would hope they are relatives, because their moms shouldn't have returned to work yet

 

[zencompass]

It is so hard to even fathom that this happened to these little babies.

Praying that the babies' injuries do not affect their health now and in the future.

 

[cvaldez1975]

NINE babies? Yes, that's too much.

I wonder if she targeted the youngest in the group? Newborn babies do wake up a lot - they have tiny stomachs and need to be fed every couple of hours, as we all know. Was that what triggered this?

My guess is that she provided a nursery service at a price that was more affordable than a licensed daycare. I didn't realize there was a demand for overnight nursery, though I can understand now that I think about it. (However, I have assumed that when a parent works overnight, it is so another parent or relative can watch the baby, but I suppose that option is not available to everyone.) Still seems fishy to me, I admit.

I'm still shaking my head that a 3-DAY old baby was there.

jmo

in one like they said that foreigners could go there to have their babies so the babies were citizens. so this is more than what they are saying.

 

[dotr]

3 infants among 5 stabbed at unlicensed ‘after birth center’ in Queens: officials
"Authorities were called at about 3:40 a.m. to a residence believed to be serving as an "after birth center" — that was advertised as a day-care center — where women stay after giving birth, on 161st Street between 45th and 43rd avenues in Flushing.

According to police, adults upstairs heard screaming from below. They came downstairs and saw a 52-year-old woman stabbing three female infants with a butcher knife and a meat cleaver."
"The facility allegedly offered to care for babies in order to allow new mothers time to rest. Details about how many families used its services, and Wang's role there, are not yet known."

Police sources identified the woman as Yu Fen Wang."