GUILTY NY - Annie Li, 2 mos, dies of head trauma, Queens, 22 Oct 2007

[Woodland]

Was there any external bruising to go along with the broken bones? The witness that has now disappeared said the were no obvious injuries to the child.

Li Hangbin was offered another plea deal after tests proved the child had a condition that would cause bleeding and bones to snap? The DA will still proceed with a trial?

Imo, there are a handful of people who won't back down or walk away from prior mistakes - all of them in LE in one capacity or another. No way they saw the refusal of plea deals coming but they might be seeing a multi-million dollar settlement for this couple that could cause careers to nosedive.

If it's a waiting game, the DA will run out of time first.

The link works fine now, btw.

 

[EXIA15145]

I gather from the article that many people were living in the dwelling - a boardinghouse? That's what I gather, not what I know.

I was under the impression the apartment building is in a predominantly Chinese area of the city. I've never been to NYC, so I don't know. I just have this picture of a Chinese neighborhood, a Russian neighborhood, a Jewish neighborhood, a Spanish neighborhood, etc. Anyone??? Is that the way it is?
The people in the various apartments in the building were Chinese immigrants.
They were sharing a two bedroom apartment with some woman and her three children. They moved in when Li Ying was pregnant with Annie. It sound like the woman was somewhat of a surrogate grandmother. They looked to her for parenting advice. She's the one they went to immediately when the baby began behaving oddly. They called 911 immediately.

 

[Bipolar Express]

I believe they are innocent. This touches close to home as a good friends son is being railroaded for shaken baby syndrome. Baby is alive thank God but they arrested the father hours after HE called 911 due to his baby girl not breathing or moving. He was not the only one who the child had been left with that day, but he's the one they arrested...crazy. And she had pre existing medical conditions that could have caused it.

 

[EXIA15145]

I'd like to take a more active part in 'assisting Li Hangbin and Li Ying'. I feel someone in this country owes it to them. They've been thru hell for four years now. They had a right to a speedy trial, didn't they? Can't they get the case thrown out because of the lack of due process?
I'm not haveing much luck finding a phone number or address for Michael Chu.
How about anyone else?

 

[Woodland]

There is a phone number and an e-mail for him at this link.


http://ny121asil.wordpress.com/2012...e-genetic-conditions-vs-shaken-baby-syndrome/

 

[EXIA15145]

OK, it looks like I screwed up again. It isn't due process, so would someone with a better vocabulary or knowledge of the law tell me the legal wording for 'the right to a speedy trial'? While I'm at it. Sorry about my typos, etc. I hate this computer and it hates me.

 

[EXIA15145]

搖嬰案開庭5分鐘 延下月再審
記者朱蕾紐約報導
June 27, 2012 06:00 AM | 1920 views | 0 | 7 | |

李英（中）在朱立創(&#24038夫婦以及社區的大力支持下，對案件最終結果充滿希望。（記者朱蕾/攝影）
李航彬李英「搖嬰案」繼在上月8日因被告的DNA檢測獲得突破性進展後，26日再次開庭，在押的李航彬和已獲保釋的李英均與律師出庭，法官宣布將案件推遲到7月19日再審，負責此案的法官屆時將決定是否繼續審判此案，或是把此案交給其他法官審理。律師預計案件將於9月開始庭審。
李航彬昨日身著白色襯衫，表情輕鬆，被帶進法庭後回頭向朱立創夫婦微笑致意。開庭前李航彬和李英的律師與助理檢察官進行了長時間的交談，多數時間是兩位律師在說，檢察官在聽。開庭後雙方均未立即發言表態，一度沉默之後也未說出任何促進案情進展的詞句。法官隨後宣布推遲審理，開庭時間總共不足五分鐘。

李航彬律師艾希利(Cedric Ashley)表示，檢方現在不能找到確鑿的證據來證明李航彬和李英有罪，兩位律師希望在9月開始預計為期約四周的庭審。

朱立創表示，已經被關押四年多的李航彬和數月前獲得准保釋的李英，只願意接受無罪釋放，不願承認任何罪名。這不僅表現對已失去的大女兒李安妮的愛，也是給二女兒李念妮一個交代。

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Shaking infants and the trial began five minutes extension next month retrial
Reporter Zhu Lei New York reported
June 27, 2012 06:00 AM | 1920 views | 0 | 7 | |

Ying (middle), Zhu Li Chong (left) and his wife, and the strong support of the community, the final result on the case full of hope. (Reporter Zhu Lei / photography)
Ying Li Hangbin "shake infanticide" Following the breakthrough in the defendant's DNA testing on 8 March, 26, a further hearing, the custody Li Hangbin bail Ying court with lawyers, the judge announced that the case be postponed until 7 retrial in the 19th month, the charge of the case the judge will decide whether to continue the trial of the case or the case to the other judges to hear. Counsel expected the case will be the September trial.
Li Hangbin yesterday dressed in a white shirt, face relaxed, after being brought into the courtroom back to pay tribute to Zhu Li Chong and his wife with a smile. Li Hangbin and Ying's lawyer and the assistant prosecutor in the court before a lengthy conversation, most of the time the two lawyers said, prosecutors are listening. After the hearing, both sides were not immediately speak stand, once the silence did not say any words to promote the merits progress. The judge then announced the postponement of the hearing, the court date a total of less than five minutes.

Li Hangbin lawyer Yixi Li (Cedric Ashley) said, the prosecution can not find conclusive evidence to prove the guilty of Lihang Bin and Li Ying, the two lawyers hope to start a period of about four weeks of the trial is expected in September.

Zhu Li Chong said, have been held for more than four years of Li Hangbin and a few months ago to get bail Ying, only willing to accept the acquittal, unwilling to admit any offense. This not only have lost their eldest daughter, Annie Lee's love, is also an explanation to the second daughter Li Nian Ni.

 

[EXIA15145]

The next court date for the Lis case is July 30,2012. They have a different judge. The prosecutors continue to offer plea bargains and they keep getting refused by Li Ying and Li Hangbin. Angela Nianni Li is now 3 1/2 years old.

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[Woodland]

Glad to see this couple keeps turning down the plea bargains - someday soon they will be giving their own donations to a favorite cause.

 

[EXIA15145]

You ask can a parent have a child with a fractured leg and skull and not really know?
That isn't the exact injuries, but look at this case:

http://www.rd.com/advice/parenting/parents-wrongly-accused-of-child-abuse/

"A Parent's Worst Nightmare" was in an earlier edition of the Readers Digest, possibly in January 2007. I read the story and was thrilled with the ending. It's one that is not often the case.

Since this article is about the same family several years later, it was suggested this be added to this thread, although it has nothing to do with the Lis or baby Annie.
http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/south_central/mother-saves-10-year-old-daughters-life

 

[Woodland]

This is the latest article I could find on this case. Seems jury selection is underway.

http://nojusticeinthejudicialsystem.blogspot.ca/2012/10/queens-couple-accused-of-shaking-their.html

 

[EXIA15145]

Hey, I found another link:

http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/17/the-shaky-science-of-shaken-baby-syndrome/

I wish I could be there to lend my support in person.

 

[EXIA15145]

This is the latest article I could find on this case. Seems jury selection is underway.

http://nojusticeinthejudicialsystem.blogspot.ca/2012/10/queens-couple-accused-of-shaking-their.html

I talked with Michael Chu. He says the trial is to start on Monday. Like you said, they are doing jury selection now. I have asked him to post the latest information on here. Do you know how we go about getting him (the position you refer to when he has personal/inside information on the case) approved?
He said Angela (Nianni) is soon to celebrate her 4th birthday.

 

[Woodland]

Have not gone through the process but start with a mod or the mod for this thread - do not know how to determine who the mod for a particular thread is.

Cool idea - look forward to his posts!

 

[Salem]

You can find the procedure for becoming verified in our Rules forum: The Rules - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

at this link: Rules Verification Process for Professional or Insider Posters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Hope that helps.

Salem

 

[Woodland]

Seems there was another delay - jury selection may have started yesterday as per attached article.

http://ny121asil.wordpress.com/tag/li-hangbin-rescue-committee/

 

[sweetcaro]

OMG. That poor couple in the article below. I can't believe what happened to them, and how poorly treated she was in foster care.

You ask can a parent have a child with a fractured leg and skull and not really know?
That isn't the exact injuries, but look at this case:

http://www.rd.com/advice/parenting/parents-wrongly-accused-of-child-abuse/

"A Parent's Worst Nightmare" was in an earlier edition of the Readers Digest, possibly in January 2007. I read the story and was thrilled with the ending. It's one that is not often the case.

 

[SyraKelly]

That RD story-WOW
Has their child been test for the OI disease?

 

[JeannaT]

As tempting as it is to believe baby Annie's parents, this one defies belief for me. According to one of the doctors, her skull was basically broken in half.

It may well be (truly) that Annie's parents don't know who battered her, but it appears someone did. In the articles, I don't see any medical professionals defending a thought that ALL of her symptoms could be explained by a nonclotting or osteo syndrome - this isn't a case where they just saw bruising on a retina, OR fractures. She's got it all, whether she has neck injuries or not - she has clear signs of being battered.

Proving who did it might be impossible now.

 

[Woodland]

This child deserves justice as much as any living child. In this case, Annie's parents and baby sister need justice, too. Both of the parents spent more than four years in Rikers Island. The mom only recently made bail. They have NEVER had a trial. They consistently claim to have done nothing to harm Annie. They were offered plea bargains: admit to a lesser charge and they can go free. They refused.




Here is the link to the article in the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/nyregion/what-happened-to-baby-annie.html?pagewanted=all

It's my understanding, which could be incorrect, that the question will be - was the child in fact battered.

This little child lived for 5 days after being taken to hospital, so there has to be tissue or other damage to show the trauma was intentionally inflicted. The investigation took 5 months before an arrest was made so I look forward to hearing the evidence of battery. It seems little is known about the disease the child had.