Found Deceased NY - Avonte Oquendo, 14, Long Island City, 4 Oct 2013

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I'm surprised that tablet PC's aren't used more. They are giving many people voices that can't communicate.

I agree. Sadly, in my school district, we are still begging for special education money from the far dark corners of the school.

I've seen children with communication devices do very well with them. Sadly, we don't get them :(
 
  • #883
That is interesting.

I can understand completely why LE would be at her house, questioning her as a witness since she found the remains. I would think that was all routine...but why in the world would they put crime scene tape around her home? That doesn't make sense to me. Maybe the reporter got it wrong?

Could be LE wanted to make sure she didn't take anything from the scene. She did take and post a photo!
 
  • #884
I agree. Sadly, in my school district, we are still begging for special education money from the far dark corners of the school.

I've seen children with communication devices do very well with them. Sadly, we don't get them :(

That sucks. My daughter was in an Abbott school district 10 yrs ago; they brought in tons of electronics. I have no clue what its like in the last 5 years cause we moved when the economy tanked. My town gets a huge chunk for school from our taxes ($12k yr); the school has cut so much but our taxes still raise. Its disgusting
 
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The communication apps work on 49 dollar tablets from walmart. Gone are the days that PECS output devices cost thousands like the dynavox. Those devices were expensive but today the apps go on phones, iPods, tablets, nintendos, and there is no excuse whatsoever for a non verbal autistic child not to be provided a mutual language method. None. I'm mad. I'm mad at how the school district I'm fighting now for my own son, and I'm mad for Asvonte's family and other families that send their flesh and blood to a facility that places no value on their life, or their education. There is. NO acceptable PUNISHMENT. Autistic brains don't learn cause and effect like typical children. Additional coping skills, COMMUNICATION methods, other skill acquisitions and positive reinforcement are the only effective ways to mitigate self injurious, assaulting behaviors and elopement. Rest in Heaven, Avonte. Your death won't be in vain. I promise you. :(
 
  • #886
I'm sad to read confirmation that Avonte is deceased. Rest in Peace, Avonte.

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  • #887
Rest in peace, Avonte. My heart breaks for his family. This should NEVER have happened :(

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  • #888
RIP Avonte.. Praying for his family.. Such a tragedy..
 
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Wow, an adult left through that side door and left it open. On the surveillance tape, it was open for 12 minutes before he ran out.
Just heard that on Nancy Grace.

Mark Klass talked about the statistics that 91% of autistic children that run away (bolt) are drowned. It appears Avontes death is consistent with him going into the river near the school and washing ashore in Powells Cove.
 
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Wow, an adult left through that side door and left it open. On the surveillance tape, it was open for 12 minutes before he ran out.
Just heard that on Nancy Grace.

Mark Klass talked about the statistics that 91% of autistic children that run away (bolt) are drowned. It appears Avontes death is consistent with him going into the river near the school and washing ashore in Powells Cove.

Wow...
 
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Wow, an adult left through that side door and left it open. On the surveillance tape, it was open for 12 minutes before he ran out.
Just heard that on Nancy Grace.

Mark Klass talked about the statistics that 91% of autistic children that run away (bolt) are drowned. It appears Avontes death is consistent with him going into the river near the school and washing ashore in Powells Cove.

I would be curious to see this stat backed up though. Perhaps what he meant was that 91% of autistic children who are killed as a result of bolting, are drowned?
 
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cklI'm sorry, I haven't been "able" yet to read the article re: Avonte's mom and her comments on the underwear (trying to take this in in small doses if possible, know what I mean? :() But just wanted to say before I forget that I'm hoping there were males living in the home with Avonte and Avonte just put on some underwear that day at home that was too big...maybe he grabbed them out of the laundry room...his dad's or brother's or someone's...Also, cloth stretches in the water, does it not? (But, the mom seems to be brand specific though---did any other males live in the house? Could they have worn "Fruit of the Loom"? (ugh, guess I'll have to read that awful article :( )

(There are some threads here re: disarticulation and water, the feet in Canada, IIRC...)
 
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I wonder if increased pollution in the water would accelerate disarticulation? It's been so cold...





:lookingitup:
 
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cklI'm sorry, I haven't been "able" yet to read the article re: Avonte's mom and her comments on the underwear (trying to take this in in small doses if possible, know what I mean? :() But just wanted to say before I forget that I'm hoping there were males living in the home with Avonte and Avonte just put on some underwear that day at home that was too big...maybe he grabbed them out of the laundry room...his dad's or brother's or someone's...Also, cloth stretches in the water, does it not? (But, the mom seems to be brand specific though---did any other males live in the house? Could they have worn "Fruit of the Loom"? (ugh, guess I'll have to read that awful article :( )

(There are some threads here re: disarticulation and water, the feet in Canada, IIRC...)

He prob wore Hanes because they're made different/better then Fruit of the loom. We use Hanes too; usually not from Walmart because the quality lacks there. Same Hanes product but seems to be made with cheaper materials. I assume the tag could be read still which is where they got the size large.
 
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Rest in Peace Avonte..Im So Sorry That It Was You
 
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I wonder if increased pollution in the water would accelerate disarticulation? It's been so cold...





:lookingitup:

The tidal nature of the East River would almost certainly speed up disarticulation due to movement. Parts of the East River are pretty swift, the current though Hells Gate can be over 5mph at certain tidal times. They don't call it Hell's Gate for nothing, it is a notoriously rough part of the East River.


Not sure about pollution.
 
  • #897
Rest peacefully Avonte. My heart breaks for his family.

Devastating news. :(

Regarding the underwear, that could be the reason he ran. Maybe he had an accident and somehow the "wrong" underwear was put on him, causing him to become upset and run.
I don't want to go in the other direction. Not with Avonte. :(
 
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I'm going to leave it at disarticulation possibly due to the water/elements/scavengers, etc-- no reason to think about this / discuss further imo unless LE confirms otherwise. jmo
 
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Rest peacefully Avonte. My heart breaks for his family.

Devastating news. :(

Regarding the underwear, that could be the reason he ran. Maybe he had an accident and somehow the "wrong" underwear was put on him, causing him to become upset and run.
I don't want to go in the other direction. Not with Avonte. :(

Respectfully BBM

I could not have said this any better myself, Keyleigh....
I am falling apart all over again. I can NOT imagine the absolute pain of the Oquendo / Fontaine family at this very moment. It is paralyzing, all-encompasing.... there aren't enough words to describe it. I can't breathe again knowing Avonte is gone forever.....! :'(
 
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Rest peacefully Avonte. My heart breaks for his family.

Devastating news. :(

Regarding the underwear, that could be the reason he ran. Maybe he had an accident and somehow the "wrong" underwear was put on him, causing him to become upset and run.
I don't want to go in the other direction. Not with Avonte. :(

That seems most reasonable. By everything I read a lot of people dropped the ball the day he eloped and it would not surprise me that they routinely omit reporting bathroom accidents among other things.
 

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