GUILTY NY - Barbara Maier Gustern, 87, brutally shoved in street, dies, Manhattan, 12 March 2022 *arrest*
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I hope she gets more than 15 years after she's convicted. This woman is a real piece of work.
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Woman, 26, charged with killing elderly vocal coach appears in court
Lauren Pazienza, 26, appeared in court on Tuesday for the first time in three months for shoving an elderly lady to her death. Pazienza faces up to 25 years in prison after denying a plea dealwww.dailymail.co.uk
“A 26-year-old woman accused of shoving an 87-year-old Broadway vocal coach to the sidewalk and causing her death during a 'wine rampage' has rejected a 15-year plea deal offered by prosecuters for a second time.“
“Lauren Pazienza appeared in court handcuffed on Tuesday where she rejected the plea deal from woke Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's office. She also failed to have her manslaughter charge dropped, according to the New York Post. She faces up to 25 years in prison.“
"Wine fueled rampage". Now, there is a defense!
I don't see a lot of sympathy here for the defendant. And the victim appeared to have lived a vibrant life, dedicated to helping others, teaching singing.
15 years isn't much of a plea deal. The prosecution isn't going to budge here.
I wonder what her parole options are in New York after a Manslaughter conviction?
If parole usually given at 50% (or less?), the offered sentence is not a bad deal.
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If convicted on the manslaughter charge against her, she could be facing up to 25 years in prison.
Event Planner Accused Of Killing Elderly Broadway Vocal Coach Turns Down Plea Deal | Oxygen Official Site
yeah, I'm with you prosecutor isn't going to budge any lower. She'd be smart to take it.
I think the devil is in the details. New York has determinate and indeterminate sentences.
For an indeterminate sentence (say, 10-15 years), she apparently would still has access to not only an attractive parole possibility in 5 years, but also have access to some, but not all of, New Yorks juicy good time or "ready for restoration to the community" type release programs.
But... for a determinate sentence, she would need to do 85% of the 15 years. This is about 12 years and is not a "in and out, then back to your life" type sentence.
My guess is that the 15 type language could mean that the sentence is determinate. If so, the defense attorneys maybe fighting hard to get it changed to an indeterminate type offer.
Using alcohol as an excuse for homicide sets a dangerous precedent (a lawyer can clarify if that precedent has already been set). In that case anyone who wants to kill someone can swig a bottle of wine first and blame their actions on the wine.
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She thinks she’s special.
She’s actually a spoiled, entitled rich kid who really believes she’s going to get off. Daddy’s gonna fix it for her. Some kind of personality disorder is at work here I’m guessing.
I think she’s in for a very big surprise and it’s not a good surprise.
It will be interesting to hear her defence.
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She’s actually a spoiled, entitled rich kid who really believes she’s going to get off. Daddy’s gonna fix it for her. Some kind of personality disorder is at work here I’m guessing.
I think she’s in for a very big surprise and it’s not a good surprise.
It will be interesting to hear her defence.
MOO
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NYC 'sidewalk shover' Lauren Pazienza trial date set despite objection
Lauren Pazienza, 26, will face trial in October on charges of manslaughter after allegedly shoving Barbara Gustern, 87, a Broadway vocal coach, onto a Manhattan sidewalk on March 10.
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NYC shoving suspect Lauren Pazienza will go to trial this fall in death of voice coach over lawyer’s objections
A trial date has been set in the case against Lauren Pazienza for allegedly shoving a beloved 87-year-old voice coach to her death.
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Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Felicia Mennin set the Oct. 6, 2022,
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Looks like LP’s attorney is going with a psych defense. Her trial has been moved to December.
Attorney: Psych defense for Lauren Pazienza, former Port Jefferson woman charged in fatal shove
Lauren Pazienza's psychological state when she allegedly pushed Barbara Gustern, 87, to the ground in Manhattan, is going to be an issue in the case, said defense attorney Arthur Aidala,
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We saw this coming. Thank you for posting!Looks like LP’s attorney is going with a psych defense. Her trial has been moved to December.
Attorney: Psych defense for Lauren Pazienza, former Port Jefferson woman charged in fatal shove
Lauren Pazienza's psychological state when she allegedly pushed Barbara Gustern, 87, to the ground in Manhattan, is going to be an issue in the case, said defense attorney Arthur Aidala,www.newsday.com
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Looks like LP’s attorney is going with a psych defense. Her trial has been moved to December.
Attorney: Psych defense for Lauren Pazienza, former Port Jefferson woman charged in fatal shove
Lauren Pazienza's psychological state when she allegedly pushed Barbara Gustern, 87, to the ground in Manhattan, is going to be an issue in the case, said defense attorney Arthur Aidala,www.newsday.com
Wow, flat out says they want a plea deal. I wonder if they'll get it.
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I believe she was previously offered 15 years behind bars and didn’t take it! She’s looking at 25 years if convicted.
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Lawyers Raise Psychiatric Defense For LI Woman In Fatal Shove: Report
A report has been submitted attesting to Lauren Pazienza's state of mental health at the time of the shove, Newsday reports.
So, this one is not behind a paywall. It appears that there is significant evidence againt the "Long Island Sewage Queen". So, she is going with mental defect as a defense.
I would agree, that people who kill other people more than likely have a mental problem. However, I don't see it working here. JMO
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Yeah... I don't know if temper tantrums will qualify as insanity...Lawyers Raise Psychiatric Defense For LI Woman In Fatal Shove: Report
A report has been submitted attesting to Lauren Pazienza's state of mental health at the time of the shove, Newsday reports.patch.com
So, this one is not behind a paywall. It appears that there is significant evidence againt the "Long Island Sewage Queen". So, she is going with mental defect as a defense.
I would agree, that people who kill other people more than likely have a mental problem. However, I don't see it working here. JMO
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I agree. I think she’s just a mean girl who has anger issues and cares little about others. After Barbara’s murder happened, I remember reading stories about how LP mocked deaf people and was hard to get along with. I feel so sad for Barbara’s family. This story really shook me up. How could LP just attack this wonderful woman and leave her for dead, and then hide from authorities? She’s a terrible person.
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