NY - Bernie Fine Accused of Molestation, Syracuse, 2011

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  • #41
Ohhhhhhhh this self serving wench makes me want to vomit.

How is it she's confusing pedophilia with homosexuality? "Find yourself a gay boy and get it over with". Are ya flippin kidding me?

Not only did she allow a child to be assaulted. She saw this, but has the audacity to be jealous. That's what it sounds like to me. She was jealous. Soooooooo she figures any lil ol' gay boy will do for her pedophile husband?

Her paycheck. That's what he is. So no worries we'll peek in the blinds and be angry he is attracted to boys. Forget about calling the cops.

With morals like that I am not surprised this "woman" waited for an 18 year old.

Please lock her up. Those transcripts got me PO'd big time.
 
  • #42
Filly said:
Ohhhhhhhh this self serving wench makes me want to vomit.

How is it she's confusing pedophilia with homosexuality? "Find yourself a gay boy and get it over with". Are ya flippin kidding me?

Not only did she allow a child to be assaulted. She saw this, but has the audacity to be jealous. That's what it sounds like to me. She was jealous. Soooooooo she figures any lil ol' gay boy will do for her pedophile husband?

Her paycheck. That's what he is. So no worries we'll peek in the blinds and be angry he is attracted to boys. Forget about calling the cops.

With morals like that I am not surprised this "woman" waited for an 18 year old.

Please lock her up. Those transcripts got me PO'd big time.
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I was shocked at her dismissive manner about it all. It was like she was saying "Oh that Bernie! What am I going to do with him?" She will get in big trouble over all this too, I believe.
 
  • #43
matou said:
I was shocked at her dismissive manner about it all. It was like she was saying "Oh that Bernie! What am I going to do with him?" She will get in big trouble over all this too, I believe.
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According to the six o'clock news here in Rochester she is claiming the tape was tampered with.
 
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Steely Dan said:
According to the six o'clock news here in Rochester she is claiming the tape was tampered with.
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I know, I heard that. I guess what she REALLY said on the phone was " Let him find a gay boy [TO DECORATE HIS OFFICE] for himself. " And then someone snipped out the middle and made it sound like she was saying what we heard. RIGHT?
 
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Fine's wife says tape was tampered with (centralny.ynn.com)
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- A day after a recorded telephone conversation was released between Bernie Fine's wife and one of his alleged victims, Laurie Fine says that tape was tampered with.

CNN is reporting that Laurie Fine will make a statement Tuesday challenging the implications of the tape. Bobby Davis, who claims Bernie Fine sexually abused him when he was a teen, claims to have made the recording during a single phone conversation back in 2002.
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more, with video, at link above

Former Syracuse coach to face 2nd sex abuse investigation (CNN)
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Also Monday, the nephew of Fine's wife said she will make a statement Tuesday challenging the implications of a tape recording of a 2002 telephone conversation with one of her husband's accusers that appears to show she knew of the alleged sexual abuse.

"She'll even say that's her voice," nephew Matt Govendo said, but that the sections of the tape -- excerpts of which were made public Sunday by the Syracuse-based Post-Standard newspaper and ESPN -- "are all tampered with."
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more, again with video, at link above
 
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Steely Dan said:
According to the six o'clock news here in Rochester she is claiming the tape was tampered with.
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Honestly I'm going to pray it was tampered with because that made me physically ill. "That was bothersome to you?" she asks. Nawwwww no problem lady that I was a kid and your old man was raping me and you looked in the basement window and saw it. Bothersome?

Sadly someone did something similar to me. She knew and she didn't know and it happened to other kids and the creep dies and poof it did happen and it wasn't him. My response? "So you saw it and watched and did nothing? You helped none of us? Now it's someone else? Gethe*uc*outtahere". Very similar to Ms. Fine there.

There's a special place in hell for the people that cover up for these pedophiles. I deem them worse than the pedophile. What? This lady couldn't pack the heck up and get out of dodge?

Oh and interesting she no longer worked for the boys and girls club as of October 2011. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I wouldn't trust her around a kid for a hot minute. Yeah yeah they said she worked from home blah, blah.

Tampered tape. So she knew nothing? This never happened? Seriously?
 
  • #50
Filly said:
Honestly I'm going to pray it was tampered with because that made me physically ill. "That was bothersome to you?" she asks. Nawwwww no problem lady that I was a kid and your old man was raping me and you looked in the basement window and saw it. Bothersome?

Sadly someone did something similar to me. She knew and she didn't know and it happened to other kids and the creep dies and poof it did happen and it wasn't him. My response? "So you saw it and watched and did nothing? You helped none of us? Now it's someone else? Gethe*uc*outtahere". Very similar to Ms. Fine there.

There's a special place in hell for the people that cover up for these pedophiles. I deem them worse than the pedophile. What? This lady couldn't pack the heck up and get out of dodge?

Oh and interesting she no longer worked for the boys and girls club as of October 2011. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I wouldn't trust her around a kid for a hot minute. Yeah yeah they said she worked from home blah, blah.

Tampered tape. So she knew nothing? This never happened? Seriously?
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And just how do you tamper with a tape to make it say the ugly things she said. They were pretty specific. When she asked the kid if he ever gave her husband 'oral sex'---what was that created from ? What could she have been talking about that suddenly was 'changed' into what we heard? PPffffttt
 
  • #51
Ms. Fine worked from home for The Boys And Girls Club




http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/boys_and_girls_club_of_syracus.html


Geez what "home" was that? We heard about more than one.

Ironic is that in 2009 on some site someone mentions that even good parents can have troubled kids that get booted from school. Sheesh ya think it could have been the other way around? Lord if this truly went on with these two "people" I gotta feel for the family.
 
  • #52
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/28/us-syracuse-coach-idUSTRE7AQ0Y220111128

The Hall of Fame head coach of Syracuse University's basketball team whose assistant was fired over allegations of sexually molesting boys, stayed mum about the growing scandal on Monday but will speak publicly after a Tuesday game, the school said.
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"What is most important is that this matter be fully investigated," he said in a statement posted on Facebook.

"I deeply regret any statements I made that might have inhibited that from occurring or been insensitive to victims of abuse," he added.
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I admire this approach. Address the problem front and center.
 
  • #53
http://www.penfieldpost.com/newyorkcollege/x1122334162/Syracuse-coach-Boeheim-silent-day-after-Fine-fired

That apology did not appease all his critics.

Richard Tollner, a member of the New York Coalition to Protect Children, said even if the investigation finds Boeheim didn't know anything before, during or after any abuses occurred, he should at least offer to quit. Tollner and other victims' advocates have been sharply critical of comments Boeheim made when the scandal broke in which he said the accusers were lying to get money.

"We think he should offer his resignation to the Syracuse University Board and the let the board decide with a vote of confidence whether he should continue on or not," said Tollner.

"Mr. Boeheim has a responsibility," Tollner said. "He's a leader. Kids follow what Jim Boeheim says these days. In that light, he should have been more responsible in his remarks."
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I'd like to hear what he has to say. At least he is not going to tuck tail and run for cover.
 
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Included in the charges: Does anyone else, like myself, think that sexual harassment and child prostitution charges under Child Labor laws should also be applied? The victim(s) were also working for the team as ball boys, I would guess, unpaid. They were coerced into sexual acts in order to keep their jobs with the team.
 
  • #57
As I have said in other threads, from researching over the years, I have a theory on why some boys are not sexually abused in these types of situations. The unmolested boys are a sort of "buffer zone" that is used by the pervs. in order to protect/gain support for themselves if they are being investigated/convicted, etc.
 
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  • #59
SuziQ said:
Mrs Fine says there will be no statement.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/bestoftv/2011/11/28/ac-tuchman-fine-house-mpg.cnn
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What I got out of that was that she wasn't making a statement to them at that time. I still think there may be a statement today. JMO

concentric said:
As I have said in other threads, from researching over the years, I have a theory on why some boys are not sexually abused in these types of situations. The unmolested boys are a sort of "buffer zone" that is used by the pervs. in order to protect/gain support for themselves if they are being investigated/convicted, etc.
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I started a psychopath thread (no relation to this sickness) and in the documentary "I, Psychopath" they say an experiment was conducted where one person who had been mugged was shown walking down the hall alone with their back to the camera. They also showed others who've never been mugged walking down the hallway alone too. The psychopath's had a very high rate of identifying the victim by how they walked.

I don't think how a kid walks has anything to do with it but I think there are cues that pedophiles pick up on as to who is "safe" to molest and who is not. JMO
 
  • #60
Former Syracuse Police Chief Dennis DuVal knew about Bernie Fine complaint in 2002
DuVal is an ex-Syracuse Orange basketball player (1972-74).
Hmm.....interesting.

Dennis DuVal, Syracuse’s former police chief and ex-Syracuse University basketball player, was aware in 2002 of child-molesting allegations against SU associate head basketball coach Bernie Fine, the current police chief said today.

Police Chief Frank Fowler issued a news release this morning saying DuVal was aware of the accusations from former SU ball boy Bobby Davis after Davis spoke to a Syracuse police detective in 2002.
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DuVal, who played for SU from 1972 to 1974, refused to answer any questions Monday when contacted by a Post-Standard reporter.
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much more at syracuse.com link above
 
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