NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested on sex trafficking, 6 July 2019 #2 *FOUND DECEASED IN JAIL

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Thanks Izzy for the clarification of the photo being taken at the hospital. I assumed it was from the prison.

You're welcome. In all cases, but especially in one like this where so many conspiracy theories abound, I value accuracy.
 
  • #502
Barr ripped for calling Epstein death a suicide: He’s ‘prone to making quick pronouncements’

Attorney General Bill Barr’s statement concluding Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide is highly suspicious, a former federal homicide prosecutor explained on MSNBC on Saturday.

Anchor Kendis Gibson interviewed former Assistant U.S. Attorney Glenn Kirschner following news that Epstein was found dead in his cell at the Manhattan Correctional Center.

“You know, Kendis, 22 of my 30 years as a prosecutor I handled murder cases and what I will say is that I don’t think anybody should jump to conclusions.

“I think there needs to be an investigation before the Attorney General starts to announce conclusions,” Kirschner concluded.

Huh?

Here's Bill Barr's Statement

Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

“I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody. Mr. Epstein’s death raises serious questions that must be answered. In addition to the FBI’s investigation, I have consulted with the Inspector General who is opening an investigation into the circumstances of Mr. Epstein’s death."
 
  • #503
I Love You My Sisters.

Always Remember: You are Not Alone.

We Are Legion.

We Will Not Be Silent.
 
  • #504
Epstein's suicide means NDAs he required people to sign are now Null. Pilots, housekeepers, accomplices, victims, etc are free to talk.
 
  • #505
“Guards at Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan jail did not follow procedure and check on prisoners every 30 minutes the night the pedophile took his own life, a source has revealed.”

Epstein's guards 'didn't follow procedure and check his cell every 30 minutes' | Daily Mail Online

Serious questions need to be asked about why he was not being closely monitored after he tried to kill himself. Surely someone must have realised he would be determined enough to succeed in doing so at some point.
 
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“Guards at Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan jail did not follow procedure and check on prisoners every 30 minutes the night the pedophile took his own life, a source has revealed.”

Epstein's guards 'didn't follow procedure and check his cell every 30 minutes' | Daily Mail Online

Serious questions need to be asked about why he was not being closely monitored after he tried to kill himself. Surely someone must have realised he would be determined enough to succeed in doing so at some point.
Exactly. He was at risk for suicide as well as for attacks from others and/or help from others. Very weird he wasn't closely monitored, imo.

jmo
 
  • #508
I am new here btw not really sure how this works all the way yet
 
  • #509
I am new here btw not really sure how this works all the way yet
@Cbrittany3321 Welcome to Websleuths! When you would like to reply to someones post, just click "REPLY" on the bottom right of the post you want to respond to. This will open a new window with the quoted post and you can type your reply below that. I hope that helps!
 
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Welcome @Cbrittany3321! You’ll get the hang of it. The main thing is to stick to mainstream media (MSM) for sources. This thread is about the charges that were filed in NYC against Epstein recently and the documents that were just released in the Guiffre case. I think the Trump case would be off limits unless the plaintiff files again.
 
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CNN has on its website, an interview with the Miami Herald investigative reporter whose stories basically led to this new investigation.

She said that she was surprised that he wasn’t on suicide watch, especially considering the timing of that document dump a couple days ago.

She felt that with the release of those documents, he knew the walls were closing in on him, and he had no hope for freedom, atleast in the immediate future.

He had just tried to kill himself, and things had only gotten worse since that point.

It goes without saying, at the very least, someone dropped the ball here.
 
  • #513
“Guards at Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan jail did not follow procedure and check on prisoners every 30 minutes the night the pedophile took his own life, a source has revealed.”

Epstein's guards 'didn't follow procedure and check his cell every 30 minutes' | Daily Mail Online

Serious questions need to be asked about why he was not being closely monitored after he tried to kill himself. Surely someone must have realised he would be determined enough to succeed in doing so at some point.

IIRC, this is a federal facility, correct?

Metropolitan Correctional Center, New York - Wikipedia

It is operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the United States Department of Justice.

So, for Barr, this is an internal investigation. Barr needs to figure out why the people who work for him may have made mistakes. For a minute, there, it sounded like Barr thought this was someone else's fault.

That's been the most confusing part of the last 24 hrs - that none of the finger pointing is being directed at the people who were in charge of protecting Epstein - the US DOJ of the Trump Administration. The Epstein case was a high priority for Barr, yet some big mistakes were made.

JMO, there are multiple conflicts of interest involved here. Can the public trust them to do an honest, open investigation?

ETA: It also appears to be accurate that no one has ever "committed suicide" at that facility before Epstein.
 
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IIRC, this is a federal facility, correct?

Metropolitan Correctional Center, New York - Wikipedia

It is operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the United States Department of Justice.

So, for Barr, this is an internal investigation. Barr needs to figure out why the people who work for him may have made mistakes. For a minute, there, it sounded like Barr thought this was someone else's fault.

That's been the most confusing part of the last 24 hrs - that none of the finger pointing is being directed at the people who were in charge of protecting Epstein - the US DOJ of the Trump Administration. The Epstein case was a high priority for Barr, yet some big mistakes were made.

JMO, there are multiple conflicts of interest involved here. Can the public trust them to do an honest, open investigation?

ETA: It also appears to be accurate that no one has ever "committed suicide" at that facility before Epstein.

The day to day management comes down to the facility itself, and the protocols put in place by the Bureau of Prisons.

There’s no way that anyone that high would know every little thing that goes on, and I would have been very concerned had the Attorney General taken a more hands on approach prior to this.

The person ultimately responsible is the warden, as he runs that facility.

The person I’m most focused on though, is the chief psychologist.

This person apparently recommended that Epstein be removed from suicide watch days ago, and this came following a suicide attempt.

That’s more than a little concerning, and I want answers from this person.
 
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The day to day management comes down to the facility itself, and the protocols put in place by the Bureau of Prisons.

There’s no way that anyone that high would know every little thing that goes on, and I would have been very concerned had the Attorney General taken a more hands on approach prior to this.

The person ultimately responsible is the warden, as he runs that facility.

The person I’m most focused on though, is the chief psychologist.

This person apparently recommended that Epstein be removed from suicide watch days ago, and this came following a suicide attempt.

That’s more than a little concerning, and I w Bant answers from this person.

Epstein was an extremely high profile case involving possible connections to the POTUS. He was a high profile risk for suicide. Barr should have been watching the handling of Epstein very closely, not delegating it down the line to some low level lackey. The accusations that other politicians were somehow involved in killing Epstein seem really far fetched. Barr had one big job to do and he failed. He shouldn't be in charge of any investigation. JMO
 
  • #516
You're right. Reconciling with Sarah is a smokescreen the Palace uses to distract from Andrew's neverending scandals. Tbh, sometimes the press, especially the Daily Mail, attacks Meghan and Harry over minor transgressions, while glossing over Andrew's many crimes. Disgusting!

True. Most of the MSM in this country are just gossip rags that churn out nothing that resembles real journalism. I'm not Meghan's No.1 fan but the press coverage is softening me towards her. They are being turned into the pantomime villains, maybe even the sacrificial lambs. Hopefully there is a real journalist somewhere who has the guts to get stuck into a real story.
 
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Epstein was an extremely high profile case involving possible connections to the POTUS. He was a high profile risk for suicide. Barr should have been watching the handling of Epstein very closely, not delegating it down the line to some low level lackey. The accusations that other politicians were somehow involved in killing Epstein seem really far fetched. Barr had one big job to do and he failed. He shouldn't be in charge of any investigation. JMO

The job of the Attorney General is not to make sure a prison puts someone on suicide watch.

Had Barr done something like that, he would be under investigation himself.

That would be highly improper.

The Inspector General will conduct the investigation, as will the FBI.
 
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The job of the Attorney General is not to make sure a prison puts someone on suicide watch.

Had Barr done something like that, he would be under investigation himself.

That would be highly improper.

The Inspector General will conduct the investigation, as will the FBI.

Barr is captain of the DOJ ship. There's no buck passing in this situation. Captains are responsible for anything that happens on their watch. In such a high profile case involving his own boss and, most importantly, the public's trust in government, its inconceivable that he wasn't paying extremely close attention to Epstein. He has most likely destroyed his own career, but more importantly has damaged the public trust.
 
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https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/meet-jeffrey-epsteins-gang-of-accused-slave-recruiters/
Jeffrey Epstein maintained his financial empire — and his perverted sideline of preying on underage girls for sex — with the aid of an army of alleged enablers, many of whom he kept in one Upper East Side building and lavished with perks.

He recruited girls (some underage) from around the world to work as "models", then housed them in a building he owned and charged them rent.

He was basically a brothel owner and a pimp. The connections to Wexner and Columbus, OH, makes one wonder about the Victoria Secret models and their "fashion shows". We've heard these kinds of rumors for years about the modeling business.

Can charges be brought against this Jean Luc Brunel person, the alleged agent for models? He seems to be at the center of all the day to day sex trafficking and pimping activity.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/creepy-phone-messages-revealed-in-jeffrey-epstein-document-dump/
 
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