NY - Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein arrested, sex trafficking, 6 July 2019 *FOUND DECEASED IN JAIL* #3

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Sure. Because no one that guards the Royals or is in intelligence would have a clue about Epstein. Um hm.

Andrew never knew why his buddy was incarcerated and the young topless girls were actually not young. The girls he was photographed with on a yacht

Human - you've hit the nail on the head.

Those who provide security for the Royals would have checked out everyone that Prince Andrew was hobnobbing with. It defies belief that his security detail wouldn't have known that he was consorting with a convicted sexual predator.

It also defies belief that his security detail wouldn't have informed him of Epstein's criminal past.
 
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Human - you've hit the nail on the head.

Those who provide security for the Royals would have checked out everyone that Prince Andrew was hobnobbing with. It defies belief that his security detail wouldn't have known that he was consorting with a convicted sexual predator.

It also defies belief that his security detail wouldn't have informed him of Epstein's criminal past.

So this would mean that Andrew either ignored the advice of his security detail (likely) or JE provided “favors” to the security detail so they would look the other way (unlikely). If Andrew ignored their advice, security must have informed someone of that. Who would that be? Whoever it is would be complicit.
 
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Human - you've hit the nail on the head.

Those who provide security for the Royals would have checked out everyone that Prince Andrew was hobnobbing with. It defies belief that his security detail wouldn't have known that he was consorting with a convicted sexual predator.

It also defies belief that his security detail wouldn't have informed him of Epstein's criminal past.
Prince Andrew's security detail has had to deal with his "1000" daliances with women all over the globe that are an open secret. The stuff that gave him the "randy Andy" nickname. So, they are used to looking the other way when he tells them to.

So, it's certainly possible that he told them to look the other way with Epstein and they did as they were told.

However, there must have been briefings with higher level security. PA was traveling, and in fact continues to travel, in the company of very rich men all over the world of all sorts of persuasions. People that have access to confidential information and would certainly like to have access to "influence" as PA is posed. Look at how foolish Sarah Ferguson was duped into a sting by meeting a supposed rich mideastern man who would give her $500,000 for access to Prince Andrew and his connections. She didn't seem the least bit wary. She was used to being around the kind of men Andrew dealt with.

So where did PA's security stay when he stayed in Epstein's Manhattan apartment for 6 days, when he stayed in Epstein's New Mexico ranch, when he stayed in Pedophilie Island, when he yachted with Epstein's topless Thai cruise?

Yeah, Prince Andrew's security must have been reporting to a higher authority

But I think our conjecturing is all for naught. The Royal Family will, indeed, shield Prince Andrew for their own sake. It's despicable, but that's the truth.
It will be ultimately be Charles' problem to deal with his brother. We'll get an idea of what Charles is really made of then. I get the feeling Camilla, for all her transgressions, does not like Andrew.
 
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So this would mean that Andrew either ignored the advice of his security detail (likely) or JE provided “favors” to the security detail so they would look the other way (unlikely). If Andrew ignored their advice, security must have informed someone of that. Who would that be? Whoever it is would be complicit.

I get the impression from Prince Andrew that he does what he wants and doesn’t listen to anybody. He seems to have really poor judgment and a sense of entitlement about him. Meeting up with and staying at Epstein’s house in 2010 after his conviction proves he couldn’t care less about Epstein’s crimes. These press releases are only because his public image is in tatters.
 
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What happened when he dated Koo Stark? Did the Royals step in and stop it? I forget.
 
  • #447
Dail Mail does a good job of critiquing Prince Andrew's statement.

I think they really nailed how self-serving and still duplicitous his statement is.

How Prince Andrew's statement over friendship with Jeffrey Epstein raises questions | Daily Mail Online

I don't really expect much from Andrew. He's never been accountable for anything his whole life. He knows he is protected.

It’s a good critique. It questions why he signed it with a casual Andrew rather than his formal title Duke of York. Perhaps it’s because his friendship with JE reflects so badly on the RF he doesn’t dare use his title...or was told not to.
 
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It’s a good critique. It questions why he signed it with a casual Andrew rather than his formal title Duke of York. Perhaps it’s because his friendship with JE reflects so badly on the RF he doesn’t dare use his title...or was told not to.

But not signing with his title seems like a trivially stupid thing to do compared to what he is NOT saying in this letter.

It isn't going to make his problems any less serious. And I do agree with Daily Mail: This is a very serious matter and using a casual signature is indeed, odd.

If this is the Royal Family's way of distancing themselves from him by preventing him from using his title in this letter, yet allowing the Buckingham Palace letterhead, it is a very confusing message they are putting out there.
 
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But not signing with his title seems like a trivially stupid thing to do compared to what he is NOT saying in this letter.

It isn't going to make his problems any less serious. And I do agree with Daily Mail: This is a very serious matter and using a casual signature is indeed, odd.

If this is the Royal Family's way of distancing themselves from him by preventing him from using his title in this letter, yet allowing the Buckingham Palace letterhead, it is a very confusing message they are putting out there.

Yes, signing it “Andrew” while using the Buckingham Palace letterhead is very puzzling. I’m glad the DM pointed that out. What a mess he’s made of his life.
 
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The Sisters Who First Tried to Take Down Jeffrey Epstein
Twenty-four years ago, Ms. Farmer was an artist who had entered the unorthodox life Mr. Epstein lived behind the doors of his luxury estates. Mr. Epstein had offered to help her painting career, but it all came to an abrupt end one night in the summer of 1996, when she says Mr. Epstein and his companion, Ghislaine Maxwell, began violently groping her.
She learned later that her 16-year-old sister, Annie Farmer, had been subjected to a troubling topless massage at Mr. Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico.
Ms. Farmer contacted the New York Police Department, and said she then went to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offering to share what she knew about Mr. Epstein and the parade of young women being brought to Mr. Epstein’s houses. Though the bureau has never acknowledged such a contact, Ms. Farmer said the F.B.I. must have had a record of it, because agents came back to her — years later — with questions. She also went to leaders in the New York art world that Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell frequented, and the sisters tried to tell their story to a national magazine.
 
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Multiple accusers are expected to attend a hearingfor late convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, their lawyer Gloria Allred said Monday.

Manhattan federal court judge Richard Berman ordered the hearing on Tuesday in the wake of Epstein’s suicide by hanging on August 10 before he formally dismisses the case.

Berman invited accusers to attend and Allred confirmed she plans to be there with an unspecified number of new accusers — who intend to file lawsuits against the disgraced financier’s estate.

Five suits have already been filed against the alleged sex trafficker.
https://nypost.com/2019/08/26/glori...jeffrey-epstein-accusers-at-upcoming-hearing/
 
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“The MCC has more phones than a Best Buy,” one law-enforcement source said.

A 40-second video clip shows Michael Reid, a high-ranking member of the Brooklyn-based “Rockstarz” gang, talking into a phone while shooting a selfie live stream, sources said.
https://nypost.com/2019/08/25/video...ng-illicit-phone-for-facebook-live-broadcast/
I'm so disappointed. I really had hopes that NYC was going to be the place were justice was served, but it was just another farce.

jmo
 
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~Util - Set/Reset Hearings

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6344890/Util-Set-Reset-Hearings.pdf

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
CTRONICALLY FILED
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Government, 19CR.490(RMB)
- against - JEFFREY EPSTEIN,
ORDER
Defendant

The hearing scheduled for Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 10:30 a.m. will be held in Courtroom 110 of the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse located at 40 Foley Square.
Dated: New York, New York August 26, 2019
Can anyone explain what this is about, in lay language?

:)

tia
 
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I feel bad enough citing the Daily Mail as MSM !

I’ve never heard of this gossip site and I don’t think the moderators have yet approved it as MSM.

So I’m not going to put any faith in the series of rumors in there about Princess Beatrice.

Goodness knows she has enough to deal with from both her parents.

I’ll wait for those rumors to be “confirmed” by Daily Mail
 
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Can anyone explain what this is about, in lay language?

:)

tia

It's just the location of the hearing of the prosecution's dismissal in light of Epstein's death.
 
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It's just the location of the hearing of the prosecution's dismissal in light of Epstein's death.
Right, but what exactly is this dismissal? I guess I can wait for coverage, but I've somehow lost my way on this case.

jmo
 
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