NY NY- Brooklyn, WhtF, 17-25, UP107089, found lying on the street, photo available. August 2023.

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1 rule out in NamUs
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A sad case. I'll speculate she's at least 18, living apart from family, but she'll be reported missing by the holidays at the latest, when she can't be contacted. I hope she's identified soon.
 
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Juliet Jones?

Juliet's eyes are hazel. Our Jane Doe's eyes are brown. If this Doe died in Emergency, her eyes shouldn't have changed colour postmortem before examination.

I do wonder about how long she was 'unresponsive' though, as some of the reddish marks on our Doe's face look like they could be blood pooling, suggesting she lay on her side for a while after circulation stopped. I could be wrong, though. But I still doubt they'd do CPR on anyone who'd been deceased long enough for eye changes. There'd be other signs that would tell them there would be no point. Rigor, for one.

If Juliet has dentals on file, it should be an easy comparison. This Doe seems to have a distinctive, uncorrected set of teeth, from the little visible.

MOO
 
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Juliet's eyes are hazel. Our Jane Doe's eyes are brown. If this Doe died in Emergency, her eyes shouldn't have changed colour postmortem before examination.

I do wonder about how long she was 'unresponsive' though, as some of the reddish marks on our Doe's face look like they could be blood pooling, suggesting she lay on her side for a while after circulation stopped. I could be wrong, though. But I still doubt they'd do CPR on anyone who'd been deceased long enough for eye changes. There'd be other signs that would tell them there would be no point. Rigor, for one.

If Juliet has dentals on file, it should be an easy comparison. This Doe seems to have a distinctive, uncorrected set of teeth, from the little visible.

MOO
my eyes are hazel and listed as brown.
 
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Hazel eyes can be mistaken for brown or green eyes, depending on how much brown or green in the blend. They have similar eyebrows, petite nose, small mouth. I think you should submit Juliet Jones, if you haven't already.
Yeah, all my documents say green eyes but I think a lot of people would consider my eyes functionally hazel. I wouldn't rule someone out based on that alone.
 
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I would rule out Juliet Jones based on facial dimensions , UID has a smaller forehead , less full lips , i guess lips could have been changed but not the forehead. Is there a way to get access to autopsy,hospital and police reports on the day she was found ?
 
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Hi all. I have been researching this one for awhile. I came across a tiktok comment about this one (attached). I don't know how reliable it is. The content creator messaged the commenter and so did I with no response. I found the age of the commenter to be 29. According to her info, this would put our doe at 29 in 2023, birth year of 1994. The commenter is located in Utah, close to the CO border. I have looked EVERYWHERE for an Autumn in yearbooks, newspapers, social media etc with no luck. Anyone have any other ideas? Cross-posted in different forums for more eyes to see.
 

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That may be a good lead. Did they say where they were in state custody at? Maybe in a different part of the staye they are living in or a other state that they lived in before?
 
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I actually think I found her by going through old yearbook photos and altering the spelling of her name. I sent it to the ME for positive identification. Unfortunately, I didn't see any records of NOK. I'm hoping they are able to locate them.
 

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Great find, they do look a lot alike to me. Hopefully your tip will lead to closure
 
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I'm assuming the name of the person you found is Autumn?
 
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I’m glad to see this DOE has her own thread and great work to those sleuthing this mystery. I have a few thoughts re her tattoos. Although it’s not her prominent tat, there is a small black heart on her wrist that appears to be some sort of cover up. I’ve adjusted the contrast to make it clearer and attaching pic. It appears that she has scars, likely self harm on said wrist which leads me to my next theory. The LITO/LITD tattoo. There is a Christian mission called “Tres Dias” and they have a prominent chapter on Long Island “LITD”. These “organizations” seek out people on the fringes of society to recruit and convert. Tres Dias has long undergone speculation for having cult like practices.
I actually think I found her by going through old yearbook photos and altering the spelling of her name. I sent it to the ME for positive identification. Unfortunately, I didn't see any records of NOK. I'm hoping they are able to locate them.
 
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I also found a sister organization of tres dias on long Island called "credo" that is a place for people struggling with addiction and life issues. I plan on getting in touch with them and asking if anyone there remembers anyone matching the uid being there before 2023
 
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I also found a sister organization of tres dias on long Island called "credo" that is a place for people struggling with addiction and life issues. I plan on getting in touch with them and asking if anyone there remembers anyone matching the uid being there before 2023
I think it’s absolutely worth looking into. Please keep us posted!
 
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I did get in contact with Tres Dias, and as of yet I have not heard back from them.
 

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