NY - Christopher Porco - Another Menandez situation? - sentenced

[SheerLuck]

I'm with you on that Jannuncutt, I can understand LE wanting to give Christopher the impression that they have something on him. I can see why they would use the GPS information to tell his girl he was visiting another woman, (just in case she was holding anything back~that could have pushed her to tell them) I agree they should use all the tools at hand to try and find out who's responsible for this crime.

But if they had evidence on Christopher, especially blood evidence from his Jeep then why would they get the Maryland guy thing going, including that call to his parents.

I agree is seems a desperate attempt, and your right, it was a nasty phone message.
I don't think they have much to go on except circumstance and un-comfirmable hearsay.

Sudzi and Jannucut: Sudzi--I'm curious about something you said. When you keep saying that "blood evidence in the jeep" should be all they need; whose blood are you referring to? If its only the parents blood and not Chris's, then won't Kindlon say that while his client slept, someone had to have stolen his jeep and committed the crime because Chris slept all night and would have never done this. If people saw the jeep, but didn't actually see Chris, can't Kindlon say the same thing(that Chris slept and the jeep had to be stolen); and even if toll records, gas receipt and eye witnesses saw the jeep he can say this. Thats why if the blood isn't Chris's and his Mom can't remember anything; then the case might be strong, but not a slam dunk...yet, so no arrest. Now as to this Maryland man, if the evidence against Porco is strong, but only circumstantial; then Kindlons best shot to win might be to show the jury, that the police ignored leads or made other errors. Thats why Kindlon and other defense attorneys constantly attack the police. Blame the cops and get your client off. Cops gotta be perfect and thats what I meant by "leave no stone unturned". So the police have got to show the jury, that every possible lead and possible suspect was checked out, but that only Chris Porco could have committed the crime. Thats why eliminating every other possible suspect makes the case against Chris Porco, that much stronger. I think the Maryland lead is simply part of the elimination of other possible suspects. Thats why I doubt the guy in Maryland has any connection to the crime, I'd guess he's simply a longshot idea that has to be checked out and eliminated to show the jury all leads were investigated I agree the cops need to show restraint, but they're under a lot of pressure to move faster and might have many more witnesses to investigate. They can't have this guy in Maryland wasting valuable time. The guy in Maryland's not returning the police's call--Don't most people return calls, when its from the cops? Lets hope somethingbreaksthis week

 

[jannuncutt]

I am not even sure that there was blood evidence found in the jeep - are any of you? If there was, why wouldn't they keep the jeep instead of giving it back to Chris?

 

[hockeymom]

I have been off this website for a couple months and was surprised to see the interest on this thread.
Again,I am still told by LE that they believe Chris is the guilty party,but do believe he had help. They also said that when they searched the house they found stolen goods that were reported missing from someplace Chris worked in the past. (so he wasn't the perfect boy,as many thought)
To make this case even alittle weirder for me,I have a connection to Mr. Delucia,in Maryland.(the person they looked into possably being involved) The person his ex wife married was my ex brother in law.He had every right to be po'd at the court system as my ExBIL ended up molesting at least one of his daughters.My sister used to talkto Delucia and he was a nice guy,just trying to keep his girls close by him and his ex and my perverted BIL,portrayed him to the courts as a nut job.I don't think he had anything to do with this. LE is just following all leads so they don't get the "rush to judgement" defense.
Also,aren't crimes as violent as this typically done by someone close to the victims. Crimes of passion so to speak. If this was some sort of revenge killing or a robbery doesn't the perp try to make it short and sweet?

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Again,I am still told by LE that they believe Chris is the guilty party,but do believe he had help. They also said that when they searched the house they found stolen goods that were reported missing from someplace Chris worked in the past. (so he wasn't the perfect boy,as many thought)

If this were true, why wouldn't LE charge Chris with theft of the items and/or possession of stolen property? Nobody's perfect, but Chris is yet to be charged with any crimes.

 

[SheerLuck]

I am not even sure that there was blood evidence found in the jeep - are any of you? If there was, why wouldn't they keep the jeep instead of giving it back to Chris?

Well, only LE knows if there was blood in the jeep or not. The general public can only guess, but what we do know is that the jeep was returned with seats and other parts missing, which often indicates there was some evidence of some sort left in the truck. Possibly blood, hair or whatever. After taking the parts that probably have evidence; then you can return the jeep.

 

[SheerLuck]

Again,I am still told by LE that they believe Chris is the guilty party,but do believe he had help.

LE tells you Porco had help??? LE isn't supposed to say anything about the case to anyone, right? But what you say is very interesting; actually extremely interesting; assuming what you were told by LE, is true. Because if Porco had help; then that could indicate that this was a planned murder, not a spur of the moment drug/alcohol induced episode(I figured Porco got hooked on crack or something). A planned murder makes it a whole lot easier to hide evidence; especially blood evidence. And with a second person, hiding evidence is that much easier. It also would make the case a whole lot tougher to crack, which could lead to a very lengthy and difficult investigation. Porco is highly intelligient and had a combined 1500 or so on his SAT's so lets hope this wasn't an organized and planned murder by him. The only thing that initially made me think it might have been planned in advance, was that Delmar went 10+ years without a murder, until; ironically an axe murder happened in early October, just 5 weeks before Peter Porco's murder. I initially thought maybe the killer got the axe idea from the other Delmar murder and could have planned this thing in advance, but when I read about the son; I figured he just snapped one night and did this instinctively.

 

[SheerLuck]

If this were true, why wouldn't LE charge Chris with theft of the items and/or possession of stolen property? Nobody's perfect, but Chris is yet to be charged with any crimes.

I'd guess they only want a murder charge. When LE sees a guys head nearly chopped off, they usually don't worry about stolen property

 

[Sudzi]

I am not even sure that there was blood evidence found in the jeep - are any of you? If there was, why wouldn't they keep the jeep instead of giving it back to Chris?

I'm with you on that Jannuncutt, I have no idea what evidence if any was in the Jeep. Only that parts were missing when it was returned, as if they had removed them for testing.

What I did say Sheerluck was that if Christopher were to do the travel and the crime in the time frame given than he wouldn't have had much time to clean himself up, and that I'd imagine there would be blood evidence (most likely his parents blood) in the Jeep.

 

[hockeymom]

Sheerluck,
My friends in LE are not directly involved in the investigation,but talk amoungst themselves as to what they have heard,so maybe they are wrong. It is my impression from talking to them that they believe Christopher had an accomplice after the fact,( disposed of the bloody clothes,etc) or someone was actually with him,or he granted someone access to the house to go in and kill them. They are absolutley sure he did it,unless they have changed their tune over the last couple weeks. I think they have always considered this planned and not something done in a rage.


I forgot who mentioned this in a previous post,but when was their another axe attack in the Delmar area? I don't recall hearing about it on the news.

 

[jannuncutt]

I find it hard to believe that using a hatchett to commit these crimes was planned.

 

[Sudzi]

Sheerluck,
My friends in LE are not directly involved in the investigation,but talk amoungst themselves as to what they have heard,so maybe they are wrong. It is my impression from talking to them that they believe Christopher had an accomplice after the fact,( disposed of the bloody clothes,etc) or someone was actually with him,or he granted someone access to the house to go in and kill them. They are absolutley sure he did it,unless they have changed their tune over the last couple weeks. I think they have always considered this planned and not something done in a rage.


I forgot who mentioned this in a previous post,but when was their another axe attack in the Delmar area? I don't recall hearing about it on the news.

I'm also wondering about the "other axe attack".
Hockeymom I'm not ringing Christophers bell, I'm leaning towards him being involved in some way too.
Here is my problem with the accomplice idea... hacking 2 people to death with a firemans axe isn't a quick or easy way to murder them.
I could get behind the accomplice theory if they had been shot, but I think to engage in a crime like this there has to be some serious personal hatred involved.
Killing someone this way is up close, personal, brutal and bloody. Crimes like this are usually commited by a person who has a relationship with the victim.

 

[Sudzi]

LE tells you Porco had help??? LE isn't supposed to say anything about the case to anyone, right? But what you say is very interesting; actually extremely interesting; assuming what you were told by LE, is true. Because if Porco had help; then that could indicate that this was a planned murder, not a spur of the moment drug/alcohol induced episode(I figured Porco got hooked on crack or something). A planned murder makes it a whole lot easier to hide evidence; especially blood evidence. And with a second person, hiding evidence is that much easier. It also would make the case a whole lot tougher to crack, which could lead to a very lengthy and difficult investigation. Porco is highly intelligient and had a combined 1500 or so on his SAT's so lets hope this wasn't an organized and planned murder by him. The only thing that initially made me think it might have been planned in advance, was that Delmar went 10+ years without a murder, until; ironically an axe murder happened in early October, just 5 weeks before Peter Porco's murder. I initially thought maybe the killer got the axe idea from the other Delmar murder and could have planned this thing in advance, but when I read about the son; I figured he just snapped one night and did this instinctively.

SheerLuck, can you give us a little information on this other axe murder?

 

[SheerLuck]

SheerLuck, can you give us a little information on this other axe murder?

Sudzi: the other axe murder is completely unrelated and has been solved. It was a jealous boyfriend killing his girlfriends new boyfriend. Sorry to confuse the issue. I'm not always good at explaining my points. This is what I meant. For a town to go 12 years without a murder and then have 2 axe murders; just 5 weeks apart is incredibly odd, so when I first heard Peter Porco was killed the same way, I thought whoever did it might have been a local Delmar resident, who remembered the other ax murder and ran to the garage, in a fit of rage, to get the ax. Thats why the idea of him having an accomplice really surprised me because when you have an accomplice, it's usually a pre-planned murder and I definitely agree with jannucutt that using an axe in a pre planned murder; is rather odd. Personally my gut feeling is still that Porco had either a drug problem, or mental problems or both and simply snapped and did this alone.

 

[SheerLuck]

Sheerluck,
My friends in LE are not directly involved in the investigation,but talk amoungst themselves as to what they have heard,so maybe they are wrong. It is my impression from talking to them that they believe Christopher had an accomplice after the fact,( disposed of the bloody clothes,etc) or someone was actually with him,or he granted someone access to the house to go in and kill them. They are absolutley sure he did it,unless they have changed their tune over the last couple weeks. I think they have always considered this planned and not something done in a rage.


I forgot who mentioned this in a previous post,but when was their another axe attack in the Delmar area? I don't recall hearing about it on the news.

Hockeymom: When you say they always considered it planned, I was curious if you meant quickly planned the night of the attack; or planned a few days in advance? I was thinking, if this wasn't done in a rage, then it changes the whole perplection of most peoples thinking, I would guess. I think I was like most people who figure the kid simply flipped out that night, stormed up the freeway and snapped. You know if it was planned, then it could have been done very quickly, with the ability to hide a lot more of the evidence. It also makes the time frame more possible. But if planning it, why use the jeep and an axe?

 

[Sudzi]

Sudzi: the other axe murder is completely unrelated and has been solved. It was a jealous boyfriend killing his girlfriends new boyfriend. Sorry to confuse the issue. I'm not always good at explaining my points. This is what I meant. For a town to go 12 years without a murder and then have 2 axe murders; just 5 weeks apart is incredibly odd, so when I first heard Peter Porco was killed the same way, I thought whoever did it might have been a local Delmar resident, who remembered the other ax murder and ran to the garage, in a fit of rage, to get the ax. Thats why the idea of him having an accomplice really surprised me because when you have an accomplice, it's usually a pre-planned murder and I definitely agree with jannucutt that using an axe in a pre planned murder; is rather odd. Personally my gut feeling is still that Porco had either a drug problem, or mental problems or both and simply snapped and did this alone.

Well SheerLuck, I'll agree with you on this point... Be it Christopher or someone else, whoever it was has serious mental health issues and/or a big drug problem. A sane or straight person could never have done this.

 

[hockeymom]

I'm not sure the murder itself was planned,but there was some planning involved because the house was broken into. It wasn't like (if it was Chris),he came home and got into a heated discussion and then flipped. Or wait a minute,just thought of something,could the alarm system have been destroyed after the murders to make it look as though there was a break in? Either way,the whole time line seems pretty tight to me. I think when LE says he might have had help,they may mean that someone helped him get rid of evidence.
I haven't seen my connections in a while. I will have to make it a point to ask them some more details when I see them.

 

[SheerLuck]

I'm not sure the murder itself was planned,but there was some planning involved because the house was broken into. It wasn't like (if it was Chris),he came home and got into a heated discussion and then flipped. Or wait a minute,just thought of something,could the alarm system have been destroyed after the murders to make it look as though there was a break in? Either way,the whole time line seems pretty tight to me. I think when LE says he might have had help,they may mean that someone helped him get rid of evidence.
I haven't seen my connections in a while. I will have to make it a point to ask them some more details when I see them.

hockeymom: thats sort of what I figured you meant by planned. Not a one week plan or he probably wouldn't have used the jeep or the toll booths(assuming he used toll booths; that was hinted out, but not made official yet). But planned meaning maybe a 3 hour plan as he was flying down the highway in a rage. If there were no signs of a struggle first; that would mean the parents were attacked while sleeping, which is how LE might know there was no heated discussion first; which in turn explains there was some planning involved. Interesting posts hockeymom; wonder if your connections will say much more.

 

[hockeymom]

I don't have anything new to add tonight,just that I spoke to my niece today who works in a restaurant in Delmar. There is a local cop that comes in there all the time and he reiterated that they absolutley know Christopher did it.Wish I could add some more.

 

[SheerLuck]

I don't have anything new to add tonight,just that I spoke to my niece today who works in a restaurant in Delmar. There is a local cop that comes in there all the time and he reiterated that they absolutley know Christopher did it.Wish I could add some more.

Hey hockeymom: I had heard very similar type things from people; especially early on in the case; that the police were very certain that Chris Porco did this. But I hadn't heard Chris Porco might have had help, which is why I thought your post created a slightly different outlook. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else was involved. It seems we're due for something to break. Hopefully wrapping up other leads and moving back to the main suspect. Patience continues....

 

[hockeymom]

In the Albany Times Union today. Chris Porco may testify before the Grand Jury. Also some sealed documents released in which a Bethlehem police officer says he asked the mother if her son did this and she nodded in the affirmative.

I heard a slightly different version The reason they asked her if her son did it in the 1st place was because she kept repeating,"My son,my son".