NY NY - Colin Gillis, 18, Tupper Lake, 11 March 2012

[bessie]

Link to the thread for the Massena UID.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255175

 

[andalso]

A google search of the passenger and his place of residence provides some interesting food for thought.

Yes. It does.

Is there any way to find out if LE searched AT's vehicle? Or did LE just take AT & JA's word for it, regarding their interaction with Colin that night?

When the newspaper editor drove by, was Colin flailing his arms frantically just for a ride, or was he trying to physically escape someone? If he was trying to escape someone, let's just say (hypothetically, of course) that he was trying to escape 2 people in a car....then Colin would run to the road, flailing his arms, then editor passes Colin, and continues on...at which point 2 people in a car would have an opportunity to grab or attack Colin and get him in their car and finish what they started.

For some reason, my mind keeps wanting to go in that direction, that it was some scenario like that.

Just my opinion, of course.

 

[travelbug]

Yes. It does.

Is there any way to find out if LE searched AT's vehicle? Or did LE just take AT & JA's word for it, regarding their interaction with Colin that night?

When the newspaper editor drove by, was Colin flailing his arms frantically just for a ride, or was he trying to physically escape someone? If he was trying to escape someone, let's just say (hypothetically, of course) that he was trying to escape 2 people in a car....then Colin would run to the road, flailing his arms, then editor passes Colin, and continues on...at which point 2 people in a car would have an opportunity to grab or attack Colin and get him in their car and finish what they started.

For some reason, my mind keeps wanting to go in that direction, that it was some scenario like that.

Just my opinion, of course.

Precisely where my mind went. Possibly even a hit and run with a surprised AT when he spotted Colin on his way back home. Unfortunately, I doubt LE examined the car.

 

[ontheclock]

Let's keep thinking. I don't have much to add, but I like the direction the discussion has been flowing. Can anyone else remember/link the info regarding Colin's last communication via phone? Ughh, I need to go back and find it. I would love to add it to the timeline. I think it's crucial info (not sure why). It was just an obscure quote or statement in a news article. We're at page 21. This thread is still small enough to scour and question.

I need another 3 day weekend!!

 

[travelbug]

http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/529813/New-plan-for-third-day-of-search-for-Gillis.html

I also came across this quote from this news article on 3/14/12 which may shed light on Colin's last cell phone use and makes me wonder how much alcohol he may have had if he was so disoriented:
"They're planning to look today in a few other areas in Tupper Lake, like around Raquette Pond where one can see the area where he lived across the lake. They're also planning to look on Old Wawbeek Road near Sunmount. "While that seems like it's some distance from where the subject was seen and his personal effects were found, in his conversations with people who live near there he mentioned being on their road," VanLaer said. "We don't believe that to be correct - we believe he was confused with who he was speaking to - but we are doing roadside searching of that road as well."

Just interesting. Hopefully (and it seems logical) every single phone call/text made to Colin's cell phone that evening was checked out and those people can account for their actions that night. Sadly, a group of teenagers possibly all drinking does not lead to clear-thinking and mature actions.

Not sure if this is the post,and article, you are looking for.

 

[ontheclock]

Does anyone know who Colin was speaking with on the phone? I can't read the full article. Thanks travelbug/SunsetGirl. I swear I remember reading about a specific time/time-frame for the communication. Perhaps I'm wrong???

 

[travelbug]

Does anyone know who Colin was speaking with on the phone? I can't read the full article. Thanks travelbug/SunsetGirl. I swear I remember reading about a specific time/time-frame for the communication. Perhaps I'm wrong???

I couldn't read the article either, but the posts around that one mentioned a statement from LE that the last call on his phone was at 1:30.

 

[ontheclock]

Very well, thanks for clarifying.

 

[SunsetGirl]

Does anyone know who Colin was speaking with on the phone? I can't read the full article. Thanks travelbug/SunsetGirl. I swear I remember reading about a specific time/time-frame for the communication. Perhaps I'm wrong???

That info has not been released to the public. This was the ONLY reference I've ever seen to the actual 'content' of one of his phone calls after leaving the party (if he even made more than 1 call) ... I do not remember a specific time mentioned for this particular call. Just that his last cell phone use was at 1:30am. I'll do more digging to see if I find anything else re: his last phone call.

 

[ontheclock]

That info has not been released to the public. This was the ONLY reference I've ever seen to the actual 'content' of one of his phone calls after leaving the party (if he even made more than 1 call) ... I do not remember a specific time mentioned for this particular call. Just that his last cell phone use was at 1:30am. I'll do more digging to see if I find anything else re: his last phone call.

Gotcha. Thanks for pointing out the distinction.

The content of the known conversation is good enough for me. Maybe we could use that as a focal point? Even if we can't put a time stamp on it? It was after the party, no?

 

[andalso]

http://www.tlfreepress.com/tlfp120314/page1.pdf

He was last heard from at 1:30 a.m., based on phone records, the DEC spokesman wrote.

They said Mr. Gillis was last seen on Route 3 near the county line between Franklin and St. Lawrence Counties about 1:45a.m. Sunday.

One of the first parties to go out Monday apparently found a piece of Colin’s personal effects on the edge of the south side of the road, west of the intersection of Route 3 and Setting Pole Dam Road, where their search began.

Where is Colin???

 

[Wanting2Help]

Does anyone have any idea what was in the backpack? Did he intend to return to his parents house that night?

 

[andalso]

Does anyone have any idea what was in the backpack? Did he intend to return to his parents house that night?

IIRC, I don't think that information is known to the public, I wonder if anyone would know the answer to what was in the backpack, aside from Colin himself. Do they????

Was the back pack for the coat maybe? I think that's unlikely, IMO, as one would just wear there coat to a party in the middle of winter.

I am not judging, but I could speculate that it could possibly have been for carrying alcohol. Maybe? Geez, a teenager on spring break from college goes to a party and brings own alcohol...wouldn't be that far fetched, in my opinion. I could be way off base, but just wanted to say that it has entered my mind as a possibility.

Where is that backpack?

I am not sure if he intended to return home that night? Good question! And who was the ride he was supposedly waiting for? Are 'the ride' and the 1:30 am call the same person?

Where is Colin?

 

[andalso]

Where was the party?

So JA was the passenger in the vehicle driven by AT, the vehicle that 'stopped twice to ask Colin if he wanted a ride', (insert my skepticism about that story here.)
AT was driving to drop JA at his home, in the town of Piercefield, which looks to be approx. 6 minutes away from Paskungameh Rd, where the party was. I do not know JA's actual address, but I did sleuth on my own trying to find it.

:thinking: :shush:

Didn't find his address. But, whilst searching, I found that there is a person with the same last name as JA that lives on Paskungameh Rd. I have no idea of knowing if this is the residence where the party was, but could it perhaps be a relative of JA's. And, does that have anything to do with this puzzle. No clue. Just wondering' and just sayin'.....

MOO

 

[andalso]

Wow. So, this just happened 3 days ago to AT's brother, NT.


http://adirondackdailyenterprise.co...id/545890/Police-and-fire-calls.html?nav=5008

He was charged with criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation, acting in a manner injurious to a child less than 17, fourth-degree criminal mischief and second-degree harassment.

Oh, and then there's this that happened in September 2013, both AT and NT and others arrested.


http://www.adirondackdailyenterpris...-in-Tupper-Lake-following-brawl.html?nav=5008

Nathan Toohey was charged with reckless driving, a misdemeanor, and passing in a no-passing zone, a violation. *Mason's brother Austin, 19, and their father Paul, 47, and who were occupants of the car, were both charged with disorderly conduct.

note...* I think where it says Mason is supposed to be Nathan. Oh, and they spelled AT's name wrong.

Seems a history of violence with the T family.

 

[Seajay]

Wow. So, this just happened 3 days ago to AT's brother, NT.


http://adirondackdailyenterprise.co...id/545890/Police-and-fire-calls.html?nav=5008



Oh, and then there's this that happened in September 2013, both AT and NT and others arrested.


http://www.adirondackdailyenterpris...-in-Tupper-Lake-following-brawl.html?nav=5008




note...* I think where it says Mason is supposed to be Nathan. Oh, and they spelled AT's name wrong.

Seems a history of violence with the T family.

This adds an interesting dynamic to AT and how he would have handled a situation out in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night with someone he may or may not have been with at a party where there was a big fight. Hmmmm.

 

[andalso]

This adds an interesting dynamic to AT and how he would have handled a situation out in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night with someone he may or may not have been with at a party where there was a big fight. Hmmmm.

Well put, and I agree!!

Note...for some reason when I click on my links above, I can't read the whole article. But, when I google NT Tupper Lake and I click on article, then I can read it all. Hope that helps, wonder if its the same for you all?

 

[ontheclock]

Bumping for Colin.

 

[andalso]

In my opinion, Colin is missing as a result of foul play.

I wonder what is going on with the investigation, if anything.

Where is Colin?

Bring Colin Home FB page

https://www.facebook.com/groups/269264163154101/

 

[andalso]

This!

What happened to Colin?