GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

[MsBetsy]

Here are key points from Facebook Help center & manual for Law Enforcement. This may be useful for Mod to add to one of their more specific forums.

*NOTE: A search of this info will bring up a few sentences of the policy, BUT it is misleading unless one reads further & browses the PDF manual guidelines****

-Facebook has a contact person specifically for LAW ENFORCEMENT for all matters as well as for Emergency (Immediate Life Endangered)-

“Whether for civil or criminal cases one may expeditiously submit formal preservation requests through the Law Enforcement Online Request System
*The first step is for a LE/ Investigator for criminal but as well other officials (Attorney/Investigators for civil) to register/log in to the LE Portal.*
*Initially they would make a
“preservation request”. This means that any targeted users deletions in any area of FB will immediately be “Preserved”. Civil is for the next 60 Days. One additional 90‐day period for preservation is allowed. HOWEVER, for criminal cases, presentation is immediate for the next 90 days with extensions.

“We will take steps to preserve account records in connection with official criminal investigations for 90 days pending our receipt of formal legal process.”
*Any deletions will be recoverable up until specified length of time until Facebook recieves the necessary legal documents ie: Search Warrants, Subpoenas etc FOR RECORD REQUESTS.*

-Includes EXIF information, if available, with the photos in addition to metadata.
-A history of Chat conversations or messages sent/recieved
-list of IP addresses in logging in or out.
-The last location associated with an update.

Maybe this is what Crafty was referring to up thread?

 

[MsBetsy]

I just went there again. It shows on my end deleted. There is no post even for Nov. 29th...

It worked for me. Can you see all the rest of their posts?

 

[greyarea]

No, I just checked those screenshots and I think that she searched for the word "Evanna" on the conversation with Tenji so she could easily pull out the texts about her and that might be why it shows up like that.

I tried that on Messenger just now, I searched for the word "iPhone" in a group conversation, the word "iPhone" shows up like "Evanna" does on that message.

My issue with those screenshots is that they tried to pick and choose what to post, but still failed miserably. Some messages are taken out of context, the car accident has nothing to do with them supposedly trying to go Boston. Most of the screenshots don't have a time stamp.

I suspect that Evanna was not feeling well since, at least, November 13. That text about "still dealing with Evanna" had nothing to do with her misbehaving, it was about her being sick and Papa "handling it". If Papa was SO sick, he wasn't "handling it" regarding Evanna misbehaving.

The messages about "life or dead circumstances" are NOT about driving in snow, it's about taking Evanna to the hospital.

They really thing they're smarter than everyone but they manage to make things worse and worse for themselves with every word they write. In my opinion, those messages just further prove how negligent they were regarding Evanna's health.

if not resentful at the very least shifting blame to her. That language is pretty clearly just another blame shift. Quite troubling.

 

[greyarea]

@greyarea @Warwick7
I see it... Isn’t this the Facebook post you’re referring to as deleted?
Tranberg-Bennett Family

I see it via your link but not on their page

 

[Warwick7]

It worked for me. Can you see all the rest of their posts?

Yes I can.

 

[Warwick7]

I see it via your link but not on their page

Same here.

 

[Warwick7]

Thanks for posting that, I never got around to reading it the first time around.

It's amazing how hypocritical this family is. They have been doing the same thing since the beginning that they claim is being done to them. In almost every post they claim the children are being abused and slapped by their caretakers based on the testimony of a two year old that was obviously coached. They even went as far as calling the guardians "perverts."

They continue to accuse an EMT worker of killing their daughter and that the whole county is covering it up. They claim these people have no remorse, yet the family has not shown one bit of remorse over the last year. They have not even had a funeral or memorial service for Evanna.

They continously state that the people on line who have been defaming them are people associated with DSS and have been warned. They seem to have a handful of supporters, but for the most part the majority think they are guilty of neglect and are responsible for Evanna's death. They can't all work for the county.

Even if there is someone involved in the case on FB posting about them (It's happened before) they have already said they know who it is so why keep mentioning it? It will all come out in court if they go through with their case against them.

They continue to violate the terms of the NDA they say they signed. They aren't supposed to talk about the case with their children. Do they really think the kids want to answer questions about vaccinations and when they last spoke to their attorney?

They probably could have been reunited with them by now if only they had cooperated. Getting the children back doesn't seem to be their first priority.

Imo

What a great post!!!

MOO is it's not that gaslighters/narcissists aren’t aware of what they are doing.

Gaslighters/narcissists know right from wrong — they just don’t care.

They lack spacial awareness and self awareness....

They tend to feel that leaders of the county, state and federal are just in over their heads — that they don’t know anything.

Why Entitled People Will Disregard Rules That Others Follow

In this article it states "They would rather lose at something than "submit to the rules of others." You are so right @MsBetsy they probably could have been reunited with them by now if only they had cooperated. Getting the children back doesn't seem to be their first priority.

 

[JMapes]

For anyone not able to see their fb content, take a stab at logging out. I don't have an account on fb, which is severely limiting in most every other case, but their page is totally accessible without a facebook account. So if you have a feeling that they perhaps, blocked your facebook account for commenting something they don't like...Try viewing their page while not logged in.

 

[shotgun09]

Below are facts, as I see them:

1. The sad death of a 12 year old, Evanna set this current ball rolling.
2. DSS was notified and called to act, due to her death.
3. The removal of the children was to protect them from any harm, due to the nature and circumstances of Evanna's death.
4. An investigation of the family began....and continues


IMO, not only is DSS aware of the neglectful denial of normal medical services provided to the children, they are now also fully aware of the psychological and mental abuse inflicted on them. Surely these kids have shown anxiety and depression and fear. That would be normal, under the circumstances of removal. However, the manipulation seen on video and deep seeded paranoia shown by the family is also very alarming. Healthy and safe children should not live in fear with IMO, mentally unstable caregivers

 

[whatsnext]

I would feel worried for the children if they were returned to the family now. This so much sounds like a cult, and cults are unpredictable. Just my personal opinion. I think I am overly dramatic, but this is quite disturbing.

 

[MsMarple]

I would feel worried for the children if they were returned to the family now. This so much sounds like a cult, and cults are unpredictable. Just my personal opinion. I think I am overly dramatic, but this is quite disturbing.

IMO a number of people following the case feel the same. For me personally, putting together all the little bits of information the family has released paints a picture of defiance, deflection and deception.

December 28, 2019 - the family writes that the swelling they observed in Evanna intensified during the latter part of that week, enough so that they "resolved" to take her to Boston to see the family doctor.* Note they refer to the latter part of that week. December 3, 2019 was a Tuesday so were they talking about the prior week?

In that same post they wrote that "on the morning" of their planned trip to Boston Evanna woke up with her abdomen severely swollen. They decided to take her to the hospital instead. While making arrangements for a car Evanna collapsed and stopped breathing so Steve "instructed" someone to call 911. Also note that he told an adult sister who was "knowledgeable" in performing CPR to get instructions from the EMTs on the phone. Why? One knows CPR or they don't.

January 14, 2020 - a month and a half later. The family now reveals that what they referred to as "the morning" of the day Evanna collapsed was actually the afternoon. The adults liked to stay up all night and go to bed around 6 or 7 am. Evanna stayed up with them.

Why did they change the timeframe? IMO they tried to present it as a little bit of family eccentricity but I've never heard anyone else call afternoon morning under these circumstances and I'm a night owl myself.

The 911 call was logged at about 5:30 pm on December 3. If in fact events intensified on the morning of that day then what transpired until 5:30 pm?
12-year-old child's death under investigation in Columbia County

I understand that this is all speculation based on what the family has written; hopefully LE has the full picture. I also understand that facts sometimes do change as a case goes on - but that's when we're reading news stories written by reporters, not the actual family. All MOO.

*According to the family their doctor is a homeopath, a midwife, and the author of several "important" books, including one on vaccines.

 

[jenn83]

For anyone not able to see their fb content, take a stab at logging out. I don't have an account on fb, which is severely limiting in most every other case, but their page is totally accessible without a facebook account. So if you have a feeling that they perhaps, blocked your facebook account for commenting something they don't like...Try viewing their page while not logged in.

It's weird because I used to be able to see their page without logging on and now I cannot. The page isn't private but I can see everything EXCEPT their messages now. I haven't tried logging into fb yet.

Also, what is the age difference between B and Evanna? Sisters who are both 12? I guess they could be 2-3 months apart.

 

[Lusitana]

It's weird because I used to be able to see their page without logging on and now I cannot. The page isn't private but I can see everything EXCEPT their messages now. I haven't tried logging into fb yet.

Also, what is the age difference between Bela and Evanna? Sisters who are both 12? I guess they could be 2-3 months apart.

I think Evanna was about to turn 13 when she passed away. Not sure if she was born in December or January though. I believe B. was 11 when Evanna passed away.

 

[shotgun09]

IMO a number of people following the case feel the same. For me personally, putting together all the little bits of information the family has released paints a picture of defiance, deflection and deception.

December 28, 2019 - the family writes that the swelling they observed in Evanna intensified during the latter part of that week, enough so that they "resolved" to take her to Boston to see the family doctor.* Note they refer to the latter part of that week. December 3, 2019 was a Tuesday so were they talking about the prior week?

In that same post they wrote that "on the morning" of their planned trip to Boston Evanna woke up with her abdomen severely swollen. They decided to take her to the hospital instead. While making arrangements for a car Evanna collapsed and stopped breathing so Steve "instructed" someone to call 911. Also note that he told an adult sister who was "knowledgeable" in performing CPR to get instructions from the EMTs on the phone. Why? One knows CPR or they don't.

January 14, 2020 - a month and a half later. The family now reveals that what they referred to as "the morning" of the day Evanna collapsed was actually the afternoon. The adults liked to stay up all night and go to bed around 6 or 7 am. Evanna stayed up with them.

Why did they change the timeframe? IMO they tried to present it as a little bit of family eccentricity but I've never heard anyone else call afternoon morning under these circumstances and I'm a night owl myself.

The 911 call was logged at about 5:30 pm on December 3. If in fact events intensified on the morning of that day then what transpired until 5:30 pm?
12-year-old child's death under investigation in Columbia County

I understand that this is all speculation based on what the family has written; hopefully LE has the full picture. I also understand that facts sometimes do change as a case goes on - but that's when we're reading news stories written by reporters, not the actual family. All MOO.

*According to the family their doctor is a homeopath, a midwife, and the author of several "important" books, including one on vaccines.

Added ** by me
** According to the family their doctor also does not keep written records...

 

[readmylips]

Eerily quiet.

 

[shotgun09]

Eerily quiet.

Maybe the quiet is a good thing right now! Maybe the nonsense (IMO of course) posting on FB will cease, while we wait for the Courts to give Justice for Evanna!

 

[MsBetsy]

IMO a number of people following the case feel the same. For me personally, putting together all the little bits of information the family has released paints a picture of defiance, deflection and deception.

December 28, 2019 - the family writes that the swelling they observed in Evanna intensified during the latter part of that week, enough so that they "resolved" to take her to Boston to see the family doctor.* Note they refer to the latter part of that week. December 3, 2019 was a Tuesday so were they talking about the prior week?

In that same post they wrote that "on the morning" of their planned trip to Boston Evanna woke up with her abdomen severely swollen. They decided to take her to the hospital instead. While making arrangements for a car Evanna collapsed and stopped breathing so Steve "instructed" someone to call 911. Also note that he told an adult sister who was "knowledgeable" in performing CPR to get instructions from the EMTs on the phone. Why? One knows CPR or they don't.

January 14, 2020 - a month and a half later. The family now reveals that what they referred to as "the morning" of the day Evanna collapsed was actually the afternoon. The adults liked to stay up all night and go to bed around 6 or 7 am. Evanna stayed up with them.

Why did they change the timeframe? IMO they tried to present it as a little bit of family eccentricity but I've never heard anyone else call afternoon morning under these circumstances and I'm a night owl myself.

The 911 call was logged at about 5:30 pm on December 3. If in fact events intensified on the morning of that day then what transpired until 5:30 pm?
12-year-old child's death under investigation in Columbia County

I understand that this is all speculation based on what the family has written; hopefully LE has the full picture. I also understand that facts sometimes do change as a case goes on - but that's when we're reading news stories written by reporters, not the actual family. All MOO.

*According to the family their doctor is a homeopath, a midwife, and the author of several "important" books, including one on vaccines.

Regarding the last part of your post, I think that answers a few questions for me. I wondered whether or not their doctors were actually "medical" doctors. If they were taking the children to a homeopath or a midwife for diagnosis and treatment that would explain why they are being accused of medical neglect.

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe the quiet is a good thing right now! Maybe the nonsense (IMO of course) posting on FB will cease, while we wait for the Courts to give Justice for Evanna!

I highly doubt it.

 

[uburoi1]

The courts of Columbia County may yield unpleasant surprises.

Just sayin'.

 

[Lusitana]

The courts of Columbia County may yield unpleasant surprises.

Just sayin'.

For who?