GUILTY NY - Evanna Tranberg-Bennett, 12, died, parents failed to get her medical care, 6 Dec 2019 Probation

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VTB posted a "Rememerance" of Evanna. Which was never a remembrance at all. moo

As of lately, it looks like that post, has now been deleted.

Venuska Tranberg-Bennett
 
  • #1,062
VTB posted a "Rememerance" of Evanna. Which was never a remembrance at all. moo

As of lately, it looks like that post, has now been deleted.

Venuska Tranberg-Bennett

We all know what was said and not said in VTB's post about Evanna. There were a few pages here of posts discussing her strange non-eulogy. The removal of the post is just the TB family " doing what is necessary"... A little too late if you ask me! DSS surely has seen all of the TB family's statements on FB
 
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That post was the beginning of the end.
 
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Is there something in the water up there? No shade, but some of the locals seem .... intense. Jmo
Right? Lol, what a mess.
 
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Wow!! How could you accept a deal that makes your teenage and young adult children plead guilty to a crime? I really thought this was going to end with Steve and Heidi taking a plea for reckless endangerment homicide and charges would be dropped against the adult children. This is why they needed separate representation. I don't see how the 19 year old could have been reasonably expected to go against the wishes of her domineering, home schooling parents and her adult sisters and rush poor Evanna to the hospital. In an ideal world, she would, and she'd be a hero. But in terms of legal responsibility I think it is a hard case to make.

It is sad that they are all so brainwashed that they didn't defend themselves and instead joined Papa in taking criminal charges. Charges that will be with them for life. I don't know if this is really justice for Evanna if the functioning of that house didn't change one bit here.

I can’t get passed this. I guess we won’t know not having inside information but I wonder if the DA pushed this or this was the family refusing to obtain separate legal counsel. Or maybe it’s just that they are all equally guilty based on evidence? I’m just not sure why anyone involved would want to burden the (I think maybe teenage) youngest of them with this kind of charge and possibly jail time when it’s clearly a very controlled family from the top.
 
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Here's what burns me. For over a year, the public in general heard " what is necessary" from the TB family. Continuous blame of their government, it's people and their community in general for poor Evanna's death. NOT ONCE was there an ounce of remorse or guilt. Many people around the globe could read through the BS. But, it continued...because it was "necessary" .

Now, we are supposed to believe them? Do they really have remorse or guilt? Or, is it just "necessary" to believe that? A little one lost her life, and seven more are at serious risk of loosing theirs if they are returned. Sentencing these cretins will be an interesting show. All in MVOHO
 
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I can’t get passed this. I guess we won’t know not having inside information but I wonder if the DA pushed this or this was the family refusing to obtain separate legal counsel. Or maybe it’s just that they are all equally guilty based on evidence? I’m just not sure why anyone involved would want to burden the (I think maybe teenage) youngest of them with this kind of charge and possibly jail time when it’s clearly a very controlled family from the top.

The Rules of Professional Ethics in New York state that an attorney should refuse to take on representation of a client if there is an actual conflict with a previous or current client. That includes the potential of the new client having claims against the current client. The idea is you have to be able to make the best possible arguments for your clients and you would be hampered in doing that if you also had to consider the interests of other clients. This is why you often see co-defendants in a crime have separate counsel even if they are accused of the same thing because attorneys will realize there's a possibility that the BEST DEFENSE for your own client is to provide evidence against another defendant.

Clients are allowed to waive conflicts of interest if there is written, informed consent. However, the ethics rules are clear, IMO, that this only applies when there is not an actual, known conflict. I have done this once in my career. I represented Company A making a claim against Company B. We resolved the dispute. Years later, Company B wanted me to represent them in a completely different case against Company C. Since it did not have anything to do with Company A, I agreed as long as Company A and Company B would both give written consent. Company A agreed since it had nothing to do with them so they didn't care if I represented their former nemesis. That's the type of situation where written consent waivers are appropriate.

IMO, based on the information that has been published, I think the best defense for the three youngest TB girls was that: 1) their parents were in control of the family, 2) they were not responsible for ETB's care, 3) they worked outside of the home and were not present for the 24/7 care of ETB, 4) they understood something was wrong but they do not have medical training and could not reasonably have known how serious the issue was, 5) as they were not ETB's guardians, they could not have forcibly removed her from their parents care, and 6) they too are victims of HTB and SB based on the 18 year history of CPS involvement/foster care and could not be expected to act as an independent adult would have acted.

If I represented the TB parents I would refuse to represent the TB kids claiming an unwaivable conflict. If they insisted, I would have resigned. It is a serious ethical issue and I truly do not think the TB kids received a fair defense.
 
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The Rules of Professional Ethics in New York state that an attorney should refuse to take on representation of a client if there is an actual conflict with a previous or current client. That includes the potential of the new client having claims against the current client. The idea is you have to be able to make the best possible arguments for your clients and you would be hampered in doing that if you also had to consider the interests of other clients. This is why you often see co-defendants in a crime have separate counsel even if they are accused of the same thing because attorneys will realize there's a possibility that the BEST DEFENSE for your own client is to provide evidence against another defendant.

Clients are allowed to waive conflicts of interest if there is written, informed consent. However, the ethics rules are clear, IMO, that this only applies when there is not an actual, known conflict. I have done this once in my career. I represented Company A making a claim against Company B. We resolved the dispute. Years later, Company B wanted me to represent them in a completely different case against Company C. Since it did not have anything to do with Company A, I agreed as long as Company A and Company B would both give written consent. Company A agreed since it had nothing to do with them so they didn't care if I represented their former nemesis. That's the type of situation where written consent waivers are appropriate.

IMO, based on the information that has been published, I think the best defense for the three youngest TB girls was that: 1) their parents were in control of the family, 2) they were not responsible for ETB's care, 3) they worked outside of the home and were not present for the 24/7 care of ETB, 4) they understood something was wrong but they do not have medical training and could not reasonably have known how serious the issue was, 5) as they were not ETB's guardians, they could not have forcibly removed her from their parents care, and 6) they too are victims of HTB and SB based on the 18 year history of CPS involvement/foster care and could not be expected to act as an independent adult would have acted.

If I represented the TB parents I would refuse to represent the TB kids claiming an unwaivable conflict. If they insisted, I would have resigned. It is a serious ethical issue and I truly do not think the TB kids received a fair defense.
I agree.

We saw this with Sidney Moorer and Tammy Moorer.

I see a theme running through that family. They garden together they eat together they live together they discipline together teach together.....and now they are determined to go down together.

Very very unhealthy environment...
 
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Right? Lol, what a mess.
As a local resident of the county and not anywhere near this family, I can possibly explain. People are likely upset due to the yearlong narrative of everyone else in the world but the TB family being responsible for Evanna's death. The fact that their posts belittled volunteers trying to save a child's life and then morphing this narrative to the same volunteers killing her. It may be due to the fact that the TB family blamed law enforcement, dss, the courts and the community of defaming them and committing numerous acts of corruption. It may be that the TB family blamed everyone else in the world for causing previous cps cases in another state and implied that a landlord dispute somehow resulted in a child removal and a sustained period of foster care in another state. It may be that the locals tired of the constant barrage of false narratives on community social media boards including defaming others and committing calumny all the while claiming to be victims of the same. Or, the most likely explanation is that we are a largely agricultural County and the residents recognize the odor of bovine excrement when it is present. Jmo
 
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As a local resident of the county and not anywhere near this family, I can possibly explain. People are likely upset due to the yearlong narrative of everyone else in the world but the TB family being responsible for Evanna's death. The fact that their posts belittled volunteers trying to save a child's life and then morphing this narrative to the same volunteers killing her. It may be due to the fact that the TB family blamed law enforcement, dss, the courts and the community of defaming them and committing numerous acts of corruption. It may be that the TB family blamed everyone else in the world for causing previous cps cases in another state and implied that a landlord dispute somehow resulted in a child removal and a sustained period of foster care in another state. It may be that the locals tired of the constant barrage of false narratives on community social media boards including defaming others and committing calumny all the while claiming to be victims of the same. Or, the most likely explanation is that we are a largely agricultural County and the residents recognize the odor of bovine excrement when it is present. Jmo
I get it, I would be upset too. It's just that I'm not really talking about upset people, I'm just talking about people like the Tranberg-Bennett family, because I've seen other locals saying some pretty weird stuff and being on the TB's side, etc.
 
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As a local resident of the county and not anywhere near this family, I can possibly explain. People are likely upset due to the yearlong narrative of everyone else in the world but the TB family being responsible for Evanna's death. The fact that their posts belittled volunteers trying to save a child's life and then morphing this narrative to the same volunteers killing her. It may be due to the fact that the TB family blamed law enforcement, dss, the courts and the community of defaming them and committing numerous acts of corruption. It may be that the TB family blamed everyone else in the world for causing previous cps cases in another state and implied that a landlord dispute somehow resulted in a child removal and a sustained period of foster care in another state. It may be that the locals tired of the constant barrage of false narratives on community social media boards including defaming others and committing calumny all the while claiming to be victims of the same. Or, the most likely explanation is that we are a largely agricultural County and the residents recognize the odor of bovine excrement when it is present. Jmo

Bravo! Biggs! A like was simply not sufficient. I cannot imagine what the area population had to withstand for over a year. I chose to read about this story, and looked for information. But intelligent and common sense filled locals had it shoved in their faces for all that time....with giant Billboards added by some yokel local as well. I really do feel terrible for this community
 
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I get it, I would be upset too. It's just that I'm not really talking about upset people, I'm just talking about people like the Tranberg-Bennett family, because I've seen other locals saying some pretty weird stuff and being on the TB's side, etc.
To be honest, those few are the exception. The supporters are largely antivaxxers, conspiracy folks or in a few cases, had a beef with county cps and/ or the courts/da. Many of the supporters are not locals and are macrobiotic, alternate medicine practitioners and in some cases chemtrail, 5g and Bill Gates is putting microchips in the covid vaccine believers. There's nothing wrong with alternative beliefs about conventional medicine, but some of these folks let belief cloud the facts presented. I learned all of this by looking at the supporters fb posts. Trust me, their army of supporters is not based here and there's not enough in the area to fill a car aside from the immediate and extended TB family.
 
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7 hours ago:

STATEMENT BY ATTORNEY MICHAEL H. SUSSMAN:

He claims his clients remain focused on the return of their seven children/grandchildren. He states the "guilty plea" was necessary.

He claims the TBF deeply grieve Evanna’s death and her presence will grace their lives forever.

Deeply grieve? We still haven't seen an eulogy. Yet they keep posting and typing away (even after they admitted guilt).

I'm sure Evanna's life will haunt, I mean grace, their lives forever. smh

Tranberg Bennett
I think we all knew they were going to spin it as if they pleaded guilty in order to get the kids back and not because they did anything wrong. But wow, IMO it's risky for them to start so quickly; they're due to be sentenced in February. I hope the judge sees the post and recognizes the absence of remorse. What jerks.
 
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We all know what was said and not said in VTB's post about Evanna. There were a few pages here of posts discussing her strange non-eulogy. The removal of the post is just the TB family " doing what is necessary"... A little too late if you ask me! DSS surely has seen all of the TB family's statements on FB
5 of the adults are posting/deleting identically and it's really creepy. 6 if you count Steve as he seems to be the owner of Tranberg Bennet, not Venuska. Only Heidi has remained silent throughout. IMO hive mentality gone amuck.

So I suppose it's not surprising that the 3 adult sisters don't appear to be in relationships, at least there aren't any FB posts past or present indicating a special someone. And what's sad IMO is they don't seem to have any guy or gal pals either. The young people in their FB friends tend to be friends of the "family," as if the family is an entity unto itself.

I wonder if they ever get lonely and wish for friends apart from their own family members. Do the little ones ever wish for playmates outside of the home?

Pics on Venuska's IG show her kids at social functions but even those are mostly adult-oriented. In one two of her kids are at a kid's concert but they're up on a balcony, looking down at the kids on the main floor. In another they're at some farm social - only them, no other children in sight, with a table of adults in the background. Another pic of a little girl on a swing, alone, at another farm.

My Christmas wish for the little ones is that in 2021 they'll make new friends and experience full and happy childhoods playing with them. They've done enough farm labor IMO, now let them be kids! MOO.
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42 minutes ago:

They say they are trying to work with everyone involved to bring a resolution to their issues. Including DSS.

They claim their primary concern is for their children, as everyone who has been following this case all know. (MOO anyone following this case knows quite well they were attacking and bashing and blaming all authority figures. They used Evanna's death as a platform for their own agenda.)

Then they finally thank everyone who has been involved in resolving this so things can move forward.

(Does that include the EMTs that tried to save Evanna's life, does that include the First Responders who tried to save her his life)??

Tranberg Bennett
 
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I knew Czajka would fold like wet cardboard. (Expletives deleted.)

#justice4evanna
 
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5 of the adults are posting/deleting identically and it's really creepy. 6 if you count Steve as he seems to be the owner of Tranberg Bennet, not Venuska. Only Heidi has remained silent throughout. IMO hive mentality gone amuck.

So I suppose it's not surprising that the 3 adult sisters don't appear to be in relationships, at least there aren't any FB posts past or present indicating a special someone. And what's sad IMO is they don't seem to have any guy or gal pals either. The young people in their FB friends tend to be friends of the "family," as if the family is an entity unto itself.

I wonder if they ever get lonely and wish for friends apart from their own family members. Do the little ones ever wish for playmates outside of the home?

Pics on Venuska's IG show her kids at social functions but even those are mostly adult-oriented. In one two of her kids are at a kid's concert but they're up on a balcony, looking down at the kids on the main floor. In another they're at some farm social - only them, no other children in sight, with a table of adults in the background. Another pic of a little girl on a swing, alone, at another farm.

My Christmas wish for the little ones is that in 2021 they'll make new friends and experience full and happy childhoods playing with them. They've done enough farm labor IMO, now let them be kids! MOO.
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Yeah, it's really sad. I hope the children were able to make friends by now.
 
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As a local resident of the county and not anywhere near this family, I can possibly explain. People are likely upset due to the yearlong narrative of everyone else in the world but the TB family being responsible for Evanna's death. The fact that their posts belittled volunteers trying to save a child's life and then morphing this narrative to the same volunteers killing her. It may be due to the fact that the TB family blamed law enforcement, dss, the courts and the community of defaming them and committing numerous acts of corruption. It may be that the TB family blamed everyone else in the world for causing previous cps cases in another state and implied that a landlord dispute somehow resulted in a child removal and a sustained period of foster care in another state. It may be that the locals tired of the constant barrage of false narratives on community social media boards including defaming others and committing calumny all the while claiming to be victims of the same. Or, the most likely explanation is that we are a largely agricultural County and the residents recognize the odor of bovine excrement when it is present. Jmo

I guess it’s just that I’m from a small community too, and I can’t really picture people in my area getting so involved in something revolving around outsiders (bc the TB family are outsiders, even if they’ve lived there for a while). We certainly have some local crazies, but AFAIK we don’t have an equivalent to “start your day with yeh”.
 
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42 minutes ago:

They say they are trying to work with everyone involved to bring a resolution to their issues. Including DSS.

They claim their primary concern is for their children, as everyone who has been following this case all know. (MOO anyone following this case knows quite well they were attacking and bashing and blaming all authority figures. They used Evanna's death as a platform for their own agenda.)

Then they finally thank everyone who has been involved in resolving this so things can move forward.

(Does that include the EMTs that tried to save Evanna's life, does that include the First Responders who tried to save her his life)??

Tranberg Bennett
SMH. Thanking everyone who has been involved in a real way towards "resolving" things so they can move forward. Um, okay...

IMO the only people working towards resolving the situation in a real way are the court and DSS; all the posturing and the lies the TBs posted during this year did zero towards resolving anything. All they wanted was to convince people that they are victims of some imaginary conspiracy. How did that help the innocent little kids?
 
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