GUILTY NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #4

[BUF]

I bet this juror is regretting it already.

If he isn’t now, he will be

 

[BUF]

The judge denied a request by another defense lawyer who wrote a separate letter asking her to suspend all other post-trial motions in the case.

Maxwell to seek new trial after reports of juror's sex abuse

 

[BUF]

Courts don’t lightly overturn verdicts, although they are typically sensitive to issues that may have infected jury deliberations, said trial lawyer Mark Zauderer, who focuses on jury issues. Even if the verdict stands, the juror issue could provide the defense another argument during an appeal, added Mr. Zauderer, a partner at firm Ganfer Shore Leeds & Zauderer LLP.

Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyers Request New Trial After Juror Interviews

 

[UK Girl]

Courts don’t lightly overturn verdicts, although they are typically sensitive to issues that may have infected jury deliberations, said trial lawyer Mark Zauderer, who focuses on jury issues. Even if the verdict stands, the juror issue could provide the defense another argument during an appeal, added Mr. Zauderer, a partner at firm Ganfer Shore Leeds & Zauderer LLP.



Ghislaine Maxwell Lawyers Request New Trial After Juror Interviews

the problem as i see it is each juror should make their mind up where this guy is basically saying he helped people to come to a decision based on what happened to him which doesnt seem right.

 

[StasiaUK]

the problem as i see it is each juror should make their mind up where this guy is basically saying he helped people to come to a decision based on what happened to him which doesnt seem right.

Spot on! JMO

 

[UK Girl]

The other thing is unless hes totally stupid which I dont believe he is as he works in finance it just feels like hes blown the case on purpose. He has spoken to at least two British papers if not more and thats without the American ones.

 

[citygirl]

This whole tower of cards is built on the idea that child sex abuse is a rare thing, out of the ordinary. It's common. The odds are he wasn't the only one on the jury with a history of sex abuse. And why are we to believe someone with a history of sexual abuse is less reliable than, say, a bully victim, or someone with low income, or someone who can outrank GM in the social sphere, or someone who hates women.... We've all got our own experiences: that's kinda the point.

Exactly. Who wants to go to something as simple as Weight Watchers and be counseled by someone who's never had a weight problem? Or AA for that matter? As you say, we all bring something to the table with our life's experiences.
IMO, this sincere man didn't have a clue that this would become an issue. He stated from the start he needed to be convinced that there was guilt. Went in with NO hidden agenda. Listened, reviewed the evidence and came to his conclusion.
MOO.

 

[UK Girl]

Exactly. Who wants to go to something as simple as Weight Watchers and be counseled by someone who's never had a weight problem? Or AA for that matter? As you say, we all bring something to the table with our life's experiences.
IMO, this sincere man didn't have a clue that this would become an issue. He stated from the start he needed to be convinced that there was guilt. Went in with NO hidden agenda. Listened, reviewed the evidence and came to his conclusion.
MOO.

Apparently he was asked or rather they all was a question about sex abuse...and he is saying there wasnt anything but it was no 48 so in that respect he lied and now seems to be telling everyone he suffered from sex abuse. Its weird though because firstly omits to say anything and is now making sure everyone knows throwing the case in jeopardy

 

[Cool Cats]

Apparently he was asked or rather they all was a question about sex abuse...and he is saying there wasnt anything but it was no 48 so in that respect he lied and now seems to be telling everyone he suffered from sex abuse. Its weird though because firstly omits to say anything and is now making sure everyone knows throwing the case in jeopardy

Doesn't everything depend on how he answered question #48?

Question #48 in the 50-question document reads:

Have you or a friend or family member ever been the victim of sexual harassment, sexual abuse, or sexual assault? (This includes actual or attempted sexual assault or other unwanted sexual advance, including by a stranger, acquaintance, supervisor, teacher, or family member.)

There are then three boxes to tick: Yes (self) Yes (friend of family member) and No.

When DailyMail.com pointed this out to David he said that he definitely remembered filling out the questionnaire on day one of selection and said, "I would have definitely marked, Yes. But I honestly don't remember the question."

I only see a problem if he marked NO.

 

[citygirl]

Apparently he was asked or rather they all was a question about sex abuse...and he is saying there wasnt anything but it was no 48 so in that respect he lied and now seems to be telling everyone he suffered from sex abuse. Its weird though because firstly omits to say anything and is now making sure everyone knows throwing the case in jeopardy

I don't see it that way.
We don't know if he was remiss in his voir dire.
Let's wait and see.
Too me, he is an honest chap, almost naive. Didn't realize how this would play out.
Nor, do I think this will go anywhere in the whole scheme of things.
Too many wounded victims, whom only 4 have spoken on the stand, in this case.
The jury has spoken.
Ms Maxwell is guilty. I agree.
MOOO MOOOO and MOO.

 

[BUF]

The chatty juror has made the ABC Nightly News…coming up

 

[UK Girl]

Doesn't everything depend on how he answered question #48?

Question #48 in the 50-question document reads:

Have you or a friend or family member ever been the victim of sexual harassment, sexual abuse, or sexual assault? (This includes actual or attempted sexual assault or other unwanted sexual advance, including by a stranger, acquaintance, supervisor, teacher, or family member.)

There are then three boxes to tick: Yes (self) Yes (friend of family member) and No.

When DailyMail.com pointed this out to David he said that he definitely remembered filling out the questionnaire on day one of selection and said, "I would have definitely marked, Yes. But I honestly don't remember the question."

You would think so yes but he also said this beforehand "

• His immediate response was, 'No they don't ask your sexual abuse history. They didn't ask it in the questionnaire' so ugh...who knows. Surely it wont take long to check it out though?

 

[StasiaUK]

The chatty juror has made the ABC Nightly News…coming up

Are you able to post a stream link? I’m in the UK eeeek! Thank you so much if you can

 

[BUF]

Are you able to post a stream link? I’m in the UK eeeek! Thank you so much if you can

It will probably be short, maybe they’ll post a YouTube. If I see one later, I’ll post it.

 

[Cool Cats]

You would think so yes but he also said this beforehand "

• His immediate response was, 'No they don't ask your sexual abuse history. They didn't ask it in the questionnaire' so ugh...who knows. Surely it wont take long to check it out though?

Yes, how hard is it to simply check a jury questionnaire?

Not a big deal.

If he answered yes then it's on the attorneys for not doing the follow up.

 

[UK Girl]

Yes, how hard is it to simply check a jury questionnaire?

Not a big deal.

If he answered yes then it's on the attorneys for not doing the follow up.

I think there was two but how about if it comes out that either put no? just curious really

 

[Cool Cats]

I think there was two but how about if it comes out that either put no? just curious really

2 jurors lying on a jury questionnaire?

Gives the defense more to work with.

Hummm.......

 

[sds71]

Looks like the cat hired Scotty a lawyer

https://ecf.nysd.uscourts.gov/cgi-b...ile0.649300664003146.pdf&type=application/pdf

 

[Cool Cats]

I’m still trying to comprehend why on earth this juror decided to give interviews. And so quickly. Money? Notoriety?

Going by how intricate this web is… and putting an insane scenario forward here…. Could he have been planted and this planned all along? I’ve just read on another thread Epstein could have been an intelligence asset… friends in secret high places perhaps? wild wild theory I know but my mind is on overdrive with all this. MOO of course.

ETA: Maybe not all along but as a back up. Yes he says he helped convince other jurors but… do we know this to be fact? We may never know.

Stealth juror

 

[UK Girl]

Stealth juror

I am sorry I dont know that term as I am not American but basically tried to get on the jury PERHAPS by omitting relevant info? which in a way would make sense...because hes gone all out to make sure everyone knows possibly causing a retrial which can only be good for Ghislaine but...if he really has been sexually abused in the past why would he do that even?