GUILTY NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #4

[Dotta]

i still havent seen an answer to the question someone else (sorry i cant remember) asked;
did GM have a jury consultant? did the prosecution?

because if not i dont think jurors are psychologically screened or evaluated

correct me if im wrong?

Sorry, but as a foreigner I havent got the slighest idea of Am Justice/Jury system

 

[Cool Cats]

You are never that!!!!

Well, in my country a Judge or 2 Judges in high profile cases give verdicts.
There are 2 jurors who just give their opinions to a Judge.
It is a good system I think.

Defendants can opt for a bench trial where they do not have their case tried before a jury but instead tried before a judge who will decide.

What Is the Bench Trial Process?

 

[Cool Cats]

D

 

[Dotta]

Defendants can opt for a bench trial where they do not have their case tried before a jury but instead tried before a judge who will decide.

What Is the Bench Trial Process?

It is great that there is an option to choose!

 

[investikater]

Down here in Oz I don't recall any jurors ever giving interviews - maybe it's illegal, or maybe it's my memory.

it does happen from time to time actually. i recall a few.

Media briefs: Tele interviews a juror ... Fox gets a new constituency ... PVO all day every day ...

The juror’s identity is not disclosed by the paper. In America, it’s common for jury members to be contacted by the media and given a chance to explain the reasoning behind why they reached a certain verdict. But not so in Australia, where juries are largely left alone.

In most Australian jurisdictions, there are formal prohibitions on both the media and on jury members on speaking publicly about jury deliberations, Griffith University media law expert Mark Pearson told Crikey this morning. But in New South Wales, where the Milat trial took place, the prohibition is only on media contacting the juries.

 

[investikater]

Oh Geez.... I sure hate reading this.

So a mistrial ??

OMG--- I was doing the happy dance last week and now we have to start all over because one douche of a juror couldn't keep his mouth shut.
Go figure.

i did try to warn you all not to celebrate too soon - that there was bound to be shenanegans

 

[investikater]

this is satire and is not to be interpreted as an allegation etc

 

[UK Girl]

As far as I'm aware this word use is a peculiarity that is generally a United States phenomenon.

In most of the world those between 18 and 21 are not even considered minors.



Seeing as this is a somewhat international case it's causing issues IMO.

thats what I was thinking here you stop being a minor at 18 and given you can marry at 16 and have children and go off to serve in a war its odd that at 20 say you would still be classed as a child.

 

[tayaway]

thats what I was thinking here you stop being a minor at 18 and given you can marry at 16 and have children and go off to serve in a war its odd that at 20 say you would still be classed as a child.

The US is full of bizarre contradictions, like 18 is old enough to go to war (17 with parental consent) and kill others, but you can't drink alcohol until you're 21.

 

[BUF]

Analysis: No guarantee of new Maxwell trial after juror's revelations, experts say

Some experts said they expected Nathan to examine whether Scotty David could still have been impartial despite his experience with abuse. In deliberations, jurors are allowed to relay their personal experiences so long as they do not use it in place of evidence.

But they said Nathan might be limited in asking what happened in the jury room since judges consider the secrecy of deliberations sacrosanct.

"Just because you're a victim of sexual assault does not mean you can't sit on a jury. Just because you lie about that does not mean she was denied a fair trial," said Zachary Margulis-Ohnuma, principal attorney at ZMO Law PLLC.

 

[Dotta]

Analysis: No guarantee of new Maxwell trial after juror's revelations, experts say

Damage control

 

[Dotta]

Ghislaine Maxwell juror 'wrongly told court he was NOT a sexual assault victim', it's revealed | Daily Mail Online

 

[sds71]

Juror No. 50’s experience during voir dire was mostly unremarkable, according to the transcript. He was asked about his social media habits, replying that he had deleted his accounts “because I just got out of a relationship and I didn’t want to see anything regarding them.”

Last week, however, he appeared to announce his participation on the jury in an Instagram post, calling it “an incredible, surreal experience and an honor to serve our country!” He also posted a selfie taken in front of the federal courthouse in early November in which he is playfully sticking out his tongue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aa6afc-6f15-11ec-b9fc-b394d592a7a6_story.html

 

[UK Girl]

Juror No. 50’s experience during voir dire was mostly unremarkable, according to the transcript. He was asked about his social media habits, replying that he had deleted his accounts “because I just got out of a relationship and I didn’t want to see anything regarding them.”

Last week, however, he appeared to announce his participation on the jury in an Instagram post, calling it “an incredible, surreal experience and an honor to serve our country!” He also posted a selfie taken in front of the federal courthouse in early November in which he is playfully sticking out his tongue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aa6afc-6f15-11ec-b9fc-b394d592a7a6_story.html

Huh but didnt he say he had deleted Instagram before being called? ugh...something just seems really off about him IMO

 

[sds71]

Huh but didnt he say he had deleted Instagram before being called? ugh...something just seems really off about him IMO

He had to let the ex know what he’d been up to

 

[Dotta]

Juror No. 50’s experience during voir dire was mostly unremarkable, according to the transcript. He was asked about his social media habits, replying that he had deleted his accounts “because I just got out of a relationship and I didn’t want to see anything regarding them.”

Last week, however, he appeared to announce his participation on the jury in an Instagram post, calling it “an incredible, surreal experience and an honor to serve our country!” He also posted a selfie taken in front of the federal courthouse in early November in which he is playfully sticking out his tongue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aa6afc-6f15-11ec-b9fc-b394d592a7a6_story.html

Looks like Grandiose Syndrome.
MOO

 

[BUF]

Juror No. 50’s experience during voir dire was mostly unremarkable, according to the transcript. He was asked about his social media habits, replying that he had deleted his accounts “because I just got out of a relationship and I didn’t want to see anything regarding them.”

Last week, however, he appeared to announce his participation on the jury in an Instagram post, calling it “an incredible, surreal experience and an honor to serve our country!” He also posted a selfie taken in front of the federal courthouse in early November in which he is playfully sticking out his tongue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aa6afc-6f15-11ec-b9fc-b394d592a7a6_story.html

He appears to be an immature attention seeker.

I really have doubts that anyone could choose him for trying to overturn a verdict or something like that.

moo

 

[BUF]

Ghislaine Maxwell juror 'wrongly told court he was NOT a sexual assault victim', it's revealed | Daily Mail Online

Of course the DM will slant their article in this direction…they interviewed him…and if I’m not mistaken, pay for interviews.

This is from part of that article further down, which I agree with…an appeal issue…

According to former Federal Prosecutor David S Weinstein, now a partner in Miami based law firm Jones Walker, all jurors may now be interviewed and specifically the two jurors who have shared their stories publicly.

He said that the admissions would not necessarily be considered automatic grounds for a mistrial but that it would, at the very least, be 'an arrow in the quiver' for Maxwell's appeal.

Ghislaine Maxwell juror 'wrongly told court he was NOT a sexual assault victim', it's revealed | Daily Mail Online

 

[UK Girl]

He appears to be an immature attention seeker.

I really have doubts that anyone could choose him for trying to overturn a verdict or something like that.

moo

I was actually wondering if he could have mental health issues but I wasnt sure if we could say that on here?

 

[UK Girl]

Of course the DM will slant their article in this direction…they interviewed him…and if I’m not mistaken, pay for interviews.

This is from part of that article further down, which I agree with…an appeal issue…

According to former Federal Prosecutor David S Weinstein, now a partner in Miami based law firm Jones Walker, all jurors may now be interviewed and specifically the two jurors who have shared their stories publicly.

He said that the admissions would not necessarily be considered automatic grounds for a mistrial but that it would, at the very least, be 'an arrow in the quiver' for Maxwell's appeal.

Ghislaine Maxwell juror 'wrongly told court he was NOT a sexual assault victim', it's revealed | Daily Mail Online

Yes the Mail pays for interviews and I assume the Times or Telegraph whichever it was also paid him. The Mail has a really bad reputation and is generally called the Daily Fail but in this respect..they got quite the Coup I guess. Curious how this man who has no radio...doesnt follow anything knew about the Mail but...there you go