GUILTY NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #4

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  • #621
Ghislaine Maxwell in court:

“Your honor, the government has not proven the case beyond a reasonable doubt and so there is no need for me to testify,” said Maxwell, standing up in the courtroom.

Hummm...wonder what she thinks now? I think the truth is that she was afraid of being cross examined. She was an arrogant disaster in her depositions.

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Courtroom sketch of Ghislaine Maxwell speaking with her attorneys as she decides whether or not to testify during her trial

Link to sketch above
 
  • #622
Legal analyst Mitchell Epner, a former federal prosecutor, said she was likely to get between 20 and 25 years. "Given that Maxwell is currently 60 years old, which is essentially death by incarceration. This is the most important trafficking conviction in recent history. Maxwell is somebody who was a real evildoer. She was absolutely essential to this ongoing, decades-long criminal enterprise to abuse children." Once she is fully sentenced, she's likely to end up in a medium-security prison, according to Mr Epner.

He said the women were "very plausible". "The defence had the problem that you don't go to war with the army you want, you go to war with the army that you have". "They had an enormous problem in that Ghislaine Maxwell gave a truly awful civil deposition that boxed them into the position that she was just going to deny that any of this ever happened".

Ghislaine Maxwell faces 'death by incarceration' once she moves on from 'truly abysmal' holding cell, expert says
Wow, he thinks medium security, 20-25 years.
 
  • #623
Ghislaine Maxwell: What next after guilty verdict?

Her jail term will be decided by US District Judge Alison Nathan, who has not yet set a sentencing date.

For the moment, Judge Nathan will be waiting to receive a pre-sentence report. This will be compiled by an impartial investigator who will look into things like Maxwell's background, family, education and employment history to determine if any of these should influence the severity or leniency of the sentence.

Sarah Krissoff, a former prosecutor with the Southern District of New York, told the BBC she expected a "very significant prison sentence" for Maxwell.

"Given the involvement of minors, the judge has really great discretion to impose a significant sentence, and based on the evidence that was presented at trial, frankly, I expect the judge to impose a very severe sentence upon her," she said.

While Maxwell awaits sentencing, she will be held in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center, where she has been kept in isolation since July 2020, and has previously complained about the conditions.

Thank you so much for the info!
 
  • #624
BBC criticised for giving Ian Maxwell airtime to defend sister Ghislaine

Ian Maxwell made the case for his sister’s innocence on the Today programme, casting doubt on the testimony from victims and detailing plans for an appeal while Ghislaine awaits sentencing for trafficking young girls for Jeffrey Epstein to sexually abuse between 1994 and 2004.

Pressed by the interviewer Mishal Husain on whether the women who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell were lying, he replied: “Of course, the prosecution didn’t put into evidence the prior interviews they had with these accusers, which showed a completely different case. Memory is faulty, and so, in my view, the trial that has occurred was not a fair trial from Ghislaine’s perspective. And that is why she’s going to appeal, and I think she’ll be successful.”

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  • #625
BBC criticised for giving Ian Maxwell airtime to defend sister Ghislaine

Ian Maxwell made the case for his sister’s innocence on the Today programme, casting doubt on the testimony from victims and detailing plans for an appeal while Ghislaine awaits sentencing for trafficking young girls for Jeffrey Epstein to sexually abuse between 1994 and 2004.

Pressed by the interviewer Mishal Husain on whether the women who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell were lying, he replied: “Of course, the prosecution didn’t put into evidence the prior interviews they had with these accusers, which showed a completely different case. Memory is faulty, and so, in my view, the trial that has occurred was not a fair trial from Ghislaine’s perspective. And that is why she’s going to appeal, and I think she’ll be successful.”

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GM’s siblings are surely making the rounds in the different media outlets…even as they profess that the media swayed opinion at her trial. They continually did this from the time she was incarcerated. Her trial is over and their sister has been rightfully convicted. IMO time to stop this nonsense.

BBC criticised for giving Ian Maxwell airtime to defend sister Ghislaine1 hour ago
 
  • #626
GM’s siblings are surely making the rounds in the different media outlets…even as they profess that the media swayed opinion at her trial. They continually did this from the time she was incarcerated. Her trial is over and their sister has been rightfully convicted. IMO time to stop this nonsense.

BBC criticised for giving Ian Maxwell airtime to defend sister Ghislaine1 hour ago

It's disgusting that they are being offered an opportunity to denigrate the victims and it makes her family look petty. It's also insulting to the jury system on both sides of the pond.

moo
 
  • #627
It's disgusting that they are being offered an opportunity to denigrate the victims and it makes her family look petty. It's also insulting to the jury system on both sides of the pond.

moo
that old sense of entitlement again
 
  • #628
She's definitely worse than Epstein,' Giuffre added. 'Epstein did a whole bunch of really bad stuff, acting on his sick urges. But Ghislaine facilitated it'
Virginia Roberts' tells of relief at Maxwell verdicts and says Ghislaine is 'more evil than Epstein' | Daily Mail Online
  • Annie Farmer, one of the four victims who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell, said the socialite's guilty verdict brought her 'tremendous relief'
Ghislaine Maxwell victim says she feels 'tremendous relief' over sex trafficking guilty verdict | Daily Mail Online

More evil than Epstein? Why in the world is she giving him somewhat of a pass? At least make them equally evil.
 
  • #629
I wish they'd take down every single one of the people that helped Maxwell. But I have a feeling that's wishful thinking since they are letting those jailers off without any repercussions.
 
  • #630
I disagree. Prince Andrew is shaking in his boots right now, and probably Donald Trump is too.

As to Andrew, he’s already on the outs with Family, isn’t that so? I don’t follow them so I don’t know for sure, but I gather he’s a bit of a tarnished spoon. As to Trump, he is on record over and over and over for championing his own lewdness. It’s known he’s paid off 🤬🤬🤬🤬 stars for sexual favors. It hasn’t hurt him politically or in any other apparent way — and least that he cares about — so I doubt GM naming him as a beneficiary of Epstein’s largesse with his stable of what she jokingly called his “nubians” would make him quake at all. He already has said publicly that he knows GM and likes her, wishes her well.

I still put these two men in the category of Johns because they were not apparently engaged in operating the trafficking with JE and GM. As such, they would not be as much of interest to LE as others who might actually have been complicit in that way. I doubt JE entrusted that level of his con game operation to GM. I hope I’m wrong and that she sings like a freaking bird!
 
  • #631
More evil than Epstein? Why in the world is she giving him somewhat of a pass? At least make them equally evil.

I don't see her as giving him a "pass" but rather, pointing out the difference between the act (or acts) and the planning, and scheduling, and all of the work (grooming) that went into facilitating the scenarios where the acts took place. Epstein didn't go out of his way to procure underage girls to take advantage of, that was Maxwell's doing. I can understand what she means by saying Maxwell is worse. I think they're equally vile and disgusting, but I do understand what she means.

jmo
 
  • #632
I wish they'd take down every single one of the people that helped Maxwell. But I have a feeling that's wishful thinking since they are letting those jailers off without any repercussions.

Did they even lose their jobs? It is obvious that they don't actually "do" the work. Probably not. Union. First write up..."Now, don't do that again.".

As for GM, I find her more despicable than JE. She enabled and encouraged his debauchery. A "normal" person would have been repulsed, and discouraged his behavior. Instead, she not only encouraged it, she enabled it. So she could continue her lifestyle flying around on private jets, going to parties. She wanted to keep JE, anything she could do to keep him happy with her, she did.

And she purposefully chose the weakest prey in society. Young, vulnerable girls, from broken families, immigrants, girls who would have "gratitude" for her gifts. Even though it made them into sex objects.

She reminds me of an evil pimp, with a purple hat, red feather, lurking around...who know that this "pimp" was a white woman with an Eton accent?!
 
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Ghislaine Maxwell's family says sister 'denied fair trial' - but chances of appeal success are ‘slim’

...with the appalling conditions in which she has been held for over 18 months and which seriously impacted her ability to participate in her own defence,” he said....

(slashed to a single line quote by me!)

Not enjoying the baseless renewed attacks on the victims by MSM under the guise of interviews, but the entire Maxwell family are all very well versed in the art of MSM having been brought up and trained within a major news empire & in several cases followed careers around it.

I presume that IM will use his quote “memory is faulty” when he is asked to explain the blatant omission when describing that ‘Her cell consists of a 6ft x 9ft space, with a concrete bed and toilet’ ‘her isolation cell - where she is held approximately 12 hours every day’ with ‘no flat surface in her cell for her to work on the legal documentation for the long hours she is left to languish in there’ were ‘appalling conditions in which she has been held for over 18 months and which seriously impacted her ability to participate in her own defence’ & hence have a fair trial. (clipped from various sources)

It surely has to be poor memory that made him forget to mention the ‘day room’ she has access to for 13 hours a day, seven days a week (& yes she is very likely held in the cell where she sleeps at night for 11 hrs - it’s a detention center).

As prosecutors explained in a letter to the Court:
'The defendant is permitted to review her discovery thirteen hours per day, seven days per week.
During the entirety of that time, the defendant has access to both a desktop computer provided by the MDC and a laptop computer provided by the Government on which to review discovery.
Also during those thirteen hours per day, the defendant may use the MDC desktop computer to send and receive emails with her attorneys. This discovery review takes place in a day room that is separate from the defendant’s isolation cell.
Accordingly, the defendant is permitted out of her cell from 7am to 8pm every day.
While in the day room, the defendant has exclusive access to the MDC desktop computer, the laptop, a television, a phone on which to place social or attorney calls, and a shower.
The defendant is also permitted outdoor recreation every day, although she has the option of declining such recreation time if she wishes.'
‘…the defendant receives five hours of video-teleconference (“VTC”) calls with her counsel every weekday, for a total of 25 hours of attorney VTC calls per week.’
Letter – #196 in United States v. Maxwell (S.D.N.Y., 1:20-cr-00330) – CourtListener.com

I am sure he will remember to mention the day room soon...

JMOO
 
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Ghislaine Maxwell's family says sister 'denied fair trial' - but chances of appeal success are ‘slim’

Ian Maxwell, Ghislaine’s older brother, who travelled from his home near Oxford to join his other siblings for part of the four-week trial, said prosecutors had manipulated the media to brand Ghislaine as the “most hated woman in the world.”

“US First Amendment rights are in clear conflict with a defendant’s rights to a fair trial – the USA has no equivalent of contempt of court,

Thanks for this. Really interesting. I just wonder about the bit BBM above. We don’t? Judges hold people in contempt of court all the time. Does this mean something different in the UK? Asking for education :)
 
  • #635
More evil than Epstein? Why in the world is she giving him somewhat of a pass? At least make them equally evil.

She is a victim. She is welcome to her own perspective on what happened to her and at whose hands it happened most painfully in her memory.
 
  • #636
Snipped for focus


Thanks for this. Really interesting. I just wonder about the bit BBM above. We don’t? Judges hold people in contempt of court all the time. Does this mean something different in the UK? Asking for education :)

Maybe he is talking about how in the UK the media is restricted on what they can publish about someone who is accused. DM even turns comments off on their articles.
 
  • #637
She is a victim. She is welcome to her own perspective on what happened to her and at whose hands it happened most painfully in her memory.

Yes, of course she is, but I wouldn't give him the tiniest bit of slack. Every single person involved needs prison.
 
  • #638
Yes, of course she is, but I wouldn't give him the tiniest bit of slack. Every single person involved needs prison.

GM is a "victim"? Seriously? She is a convicted predator.
 
  • #639
GM is a "victim"? Seriously? She is a convicted predator.

I don't think the poster is talking about GM. At least that's the way I took it.
 
  • #640
I wish they'd take down every single one of the people that helped Maxwell. But I have a feeling that's wishful thinking since they are letting those jailers off without any repercussions.
It would be fair and just that everyone who assisted Maxwell/Epstein be taken down. My biggest wish would be warrants served to the elite, powerful and protected abusers themselves. You know, those belonging to the big boys club. Wishful thinking, never to be fulfilled.
 
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