NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #5

[Dotta]

What's the use,
from a legal point of view,
of publishing the names of people who knew the wicked duo,
but who are not charged with anything?

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, the VF articles state that Lex Wexner was not good with the financial aspect of his companies, so it was easy for Epstein to trick him into thinking he could manage Wexner's money and get greater returns for him.
Wexner's friends also said he was a "lonely guy" who was probably befriended by Epstein. He just picked the wrong friend. Wexner was brilliant at dressing women. Epstein gave him the opportunity to spend much more time with young women, probably living out his fantasies. He creeps me out. I know some young women who worked at The Limited stores back in the late 70's and early 80's. It bothers me to think they were working hard (and not being paid very much) for such a creepy guy. I assume he preferred Epstein's underage girls, like the high schoolers who worked part time in his stores.

Regardless of how some try to portray Wexner as a victim who was lured and controlled by Epstein, I have no sympathy for him. He preyed on young women. As employees, he treated them badly, but made a great deal of money from selling clothes to them.

Wexner is not a victim. He was a visionary combining sales and mathematical analysis, but he knew his target audience well. He was the CEO of Victoris's Secret, the dream of any young model. An unpleasant topic, but the whole fashion/supermodel industry works along the same principle, to find a 13-14 year old teenager, to invest into them and then to reap the results of investment because models retire late. Sadly, most of these women never graduate from HS, their development is arrested because they leave home at 14 and in a way, the whole fashion industry is a predators' haven.
Now Wexner, of course, did many innovative things, too, and the control over the purchase was in his female customers' hands. But I hope that the whole body-dysmorphic, toxic supermodel culture is becoming the thing of the past.

 

[Charlot123]

What's the use,
from a legal point of view,
of publishing the names of people who knew the wicked duo,
but who are not charged with anything?

Because, sadly, the public is exhausted by news about wars and catastrophes. These stories, sad as they are for the victims, might be mood-elevating by virtue of salaciousness. And the predators mentioned there are, in a way, already disgraced by their prior behavior, so no harm done.

 

[Cool Cats]

What's the use,
from a legal point of view,
of publishing the names of people who knew the wicked duo,
but who are not charged with anything?

Good question

In publishing the depositions the names come out but why not redact them? The one's not charged are apparently not even being sued by anyone.

 

[Dotta]

Oh well,
I guess it is good that the truth is slowly emerging.

It is always better that publications appear rather than disappear

JMO

 

[Betty P]

Wexner is not a victim.

RSBM for focus

Agree, he's most certainly not a victim, but a predator. I still don't understand how he was able to avoid charges or a lawsuit. JMO

 

[DeDee]

Leslie Wexner - billionaire sleeps soundly?

Les Wexner Once Again Sleeping Peacefully in Columbus-Area Mansion - Delaware Ohio News

 

[Dotta]

RSBM for focus

Agree, he's most certainly not a victim, but a predator. I still don't understand how he was able to avoid charges or a lawsuit. JMO

Oh well
According to a popular saying (in my country)

"Even weather is on the rich men's side"


Money money money Always sunny lalala

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[Chimera]

It's crazy that this went on for so long, literally an open secret for many years-- and anyone with clout and authority who could speak up ... chose not to do so ?
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

This is very distressing.

Does this mean John McCain had knowledge of this, too? He would have been in a position to do something about it and absolutely should have.

As to David Copperfield…it’s great that he had some realization that things were unsavory and criminal, but whether he alerted authorities, I think we don’t yet know.

IMO some of the info is underwhelming, in that many of the names seem to have just known him but thankfully did not participate in sexually abusing underage girls. Of course if it’s true that everyone knew about him, I would have hoped that these other powerful people would NOT have been intimidated to report Epstein to the authorities.

It is difficult to imagine Hawking physically involved in an orgy, but who knows for sure, maybe he was able to passively “receive?” Ugh.

We already know about Andrew and honestly I wouldn’t put anything past Clinton. I wouldn’t put anything past Trump either, but so far it just seems they went to his casino.

Michael Jackson…ugh also. Nothing so far says he was involved, though.

JMO

ETA: I have friends who grew up with Epstein in the Seagate neighborhood of Brooklyn, N.Y. According to them he was just an ordinary, middle-class guy, had friends, not an outcast or anything. None of them could have predicted he’d grow up to become what he became.…a billionaire, famous, and a berserk pedophile and sex addict.

Bolding mine.
First bolded : Absolutely.

Second bolded : Eww !

Omo.

 

[Chimera]

And there are numerous photographs of him partying with Epstein. I still don't believe that Epstein died by suicide. I think it was a coverup.

Ita.
So many questions around that event of his dying.
Imo.

IMO, Epstein had "the goods' on a lot of very influential peeps.
He got caught being the p e d o that he is.....and wasn't going down without spilling the goods. The FBI were successful in cleaning up the island of all incriminating evidence. And JE was not going to be 'talking' for long.

The attorney for the prosecution of GM was instrumental in agreeing with keeping much of the evidence hidden.

So, who exactly is covering up what now? And, for whom?


All MOO

Bolding mine.
That's interesting re. the bolded.
Did the fbi feel the need to cover for anyone ?
Just wondering.
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

RSBM for focus

Agree, he's most certainly not a victim, but a predator. I still don't understand how he was able to avoid charges or a lawsuit. JMO

Maybe he has threatening info. on someone, and it's something more damaging than what's already been released ?
Just speculating of course.
Omo.

 

[Charlot123]

Its funny how many MSM articles lead this story with an image of Trump & Epstein together lol.
The world already knows Trump is morally bankrupt, but in this particular case, it doesn't appear that he was one of the repeat clients on Pedo Island.

I think that both Trump and Clinton were smarter, in a way. Monicagate happened in the White House, Clinton's turf. Trump is even more paranoid. He had beauty pageants, casinos, hotels. Neither would put himself in the situation when he could be secretly videotaped. Plus, both had own access to women. Again, i don't think highly of their morality, but in a way, both are cautious people.

 

[investikater]

I think that both Trump and Clinton were smarter, in a way. Monicagate happened in the White House, Clinton's turf. Trump is even more paranoid. He had beauty pageants, casinos, hotels. Neither would put himself in the situation when he could be secretly videotaped. Plus, both had own access to women. Again, i don't think highly of their morality, but in a way, both are cautious people.

Not if you give any credence to the Steele dossier. Steele did rate that part as a lower probability and I am in two minds about whether he should have included it or not. On the one hand it was an extremely serious allegation, on the other hand it dragged the entire dossier down to include something with less supporting evidence.
JUST MY OPINION
Sources:

Steele dossier - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Dotta]

It seems that of all important figures,
only Prince Andrew took the rap hehehe

Agreeing to pose for a picture cost him millions (settlement to VG/lawyers), reputation and ban from Royals.
JMO

FBI urged to release Epstein mansion CCTV that 'might show Andrew'

Attorney Spencer Kuvin claimed that senior FBI officers took the hard disks and stored videos and now wants the bureau to let the public view the material on those videos.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Andrew set for battle with King as he digs in over mansion

The Daily Mail revealed last week the King intends to evict his brother from the mansion he occupies on the Windsor estate and move him to a more modest property this year

www.dailymail.co.uk

Prince Andrew faces MORE humiliation as emails searched for 'sex toy'

MAIL ON SUNDAY EXCLUSIVE: Last night, a source close to the Duke of York told the MoS how Andrew (pictured with Ghislaine Maxwell) had been left reeling by the lurid new claims.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Epstein's Florida mansion filled with 'many pictures' of Prince Andrew

Court documents released last week reveal the Jeffrey Epstein flaunted his relationship with the Duke of York by putting 'many pictures' of Prince Andrew (pictured) on display inside his $18m mansion.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Arkay]

It seems that of all important figures,
only Prince Andrew took the rap hehehe

Agreeing to pose for a picture cost him millions (settlement to VG/lawyers), reputation and ban from Royals.
JMO

IMO it’s not just that.

I’m quite sure Andrew has taken innumerable pictures with thousands of people whom he would never remember, while they would never forget.

It’s much more because VG accused him directly of having underage sex with her. And of course she accuses Ghislaine of being the procurer, so that’s why those two are the primary culprits as of now.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

IMO it’s not just that.

I’m quite sure Andrew has taken innumerable pictures with thousands of people whom he would never remember, while they would never forget.

It’s much more because VG accused him directly of having underage sex with her. And of course she accuses Ghislaine of being the procurer, so that’s why those two are the primary culprits as of now.

JMO

I know!!!
After all,
I have followed this DISGUSTING case since the beginning (2019 )
AND on 3 WS threads:
1) JE
2) GM
3) PA (UK)

I consider myself an expert hahaha

And this photo was the FINAL nail to his "coffin"
(as we say here)

JMO

 

[Dotta]

RSBM for focus

Agree, he's most certainly not a victim, but a predator. I still don't understand how he was able to avoid charges or a lawsuit. JMO

What is the "Victoria's Secret" brand associated with?

Today,
it is more about sexual and financial abuse and causing complexes for women than about the ideal of beauty.

This is confirmed by the three-part documentary "Victoria's Secret:
Angels and Demons"
about the behind-the-scenes of the world's largest lingerie brand.

JMO

 

[sds71]

Virginia Giuffre's lawyers used the photos supplied in the Ransome docket to argue that Ghislaine Maxwell was on Epstein's island - despite her saying that she was 'hardly around.'

Pics show scantily-clad girls and women on Epstein's 'pedo island'

The never-before-seen images, which have been unsealed as part of the latest document dump surrounding Epstein, appeared to show girls or young women on his private Island in 2006.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Trump named by Epstein victim as having sex with 'many girls'

In the latest dump of papers, Epstein victim Sarah Ransome claimed in a series of 2016 emails to DailyMail.com columnist Maureen Callahan that Trump had sex with 'many girls'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/giuffre-v-maxwell/

 

[Betty P]

Virginia Giuffre's lawyers used the photos supplied in the Ransome docket to argue that Ghislaine Maxwell was on Epstein's island - despite her saying that she was 'hardly around.'

Pics show scantily-clad girls and women on Epstein's 'pedo island'

The never-before-seen images, which have been unsealed as part of the latest document dump surrounding Epstein, appeared to show girls or young women on his private Island in 2006.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Trump named by Epstein victim as having sex with 'many girls'

In the latest dump of papers, Epstein victim Sarah Ransome claimed in a series of 2016 emails to DailyMail.com columnist Maureen Callahan that Trump had sex with 'many girls'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/giuffre-v-maxwell/

That place on the island looks rather "dumpy" in these photos. People with their feet up on the furniture and dining tables, junk piled around on every surface, etc. Messy.