NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #5

[Legally Bland]

Prince Andrew accuser Giuffre taunts 'who's on the naughty list?'

Virginia Giuffre, who claims she was trafficked by Epstein and had sex with Prince Andrew aged 17, was triumphant in her bid to get a dossier containing the names unsealed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

IN MY OPINION, Virginia RG has been very quiet since IN MY OPINION being humiliated and undermined by being unable to be a witness in the Ghislane M trial because of having the IN MY OPINION untenable position of the star witness Carolyn A accusing V of being a perpetrator and saying V 'deserved what GM was getting'.

Source backing up my claim: Witness at Maxwell's trial waives anonymity and makes new claim

Now poor Carolyn is IN MY OPINION very conveniently out of the way and what a coincidence look who's popped up again. That is a little bit suspicious IN MY OPINION.

ALL JUST MY OWN OPINION

How is suing Prince Andrew being 'very quiet'?

 

[JDG]

Andrew 'in torment' after judge rules court documents to be released

The Mail on Sunday has learned the Duke of York's name will appear alongside those of scores of Epstein's powerful friends when a tranche of court documents are published.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Kemug]

I do wonder if VG now regrets having "put herself out there". Yes, she now has vindication and justice, but she is no happier if her recent photos are anything to go by. Also, I have wondered how her teenagers have responded to their mother's story, maybe not well. Poor lady.

 

[LinasK]

Anyone here excited for the release of Epstein's list??? I am.

 

[WyomingSkyAngel]

Ghislaine Maxwell is disgusting, but the frightening thing is, a LOT of people like Epstein usually have their wives do all the cover-up and occasional killing.
I'll never understand it, but the wife is always "willing to go down with the ship."

 

[Chelly]

Anyone here excited for the release of Epstein's list??? I am.

As a follower of both Epstein and Maxwell, I am interested in the list. However, I'm not hopeful that names of the involved rich and famous will appear. They somehow will be protected. I know it's unfair and I hope I am wrong MOO

 

[Ontario Mom]

As a follower of both Epstein and Maxwell, I am interested in the list. However, I'm not hopeful that names of the involved rich and famous will appear. They somehow will be protected. I know it's unfair and I hope I am wrong MOO

I don't think anyone's going to be too surprised by the names on the list, or the fact that the same people almost always tend to be protected from facing justice.

jmo

 

[Spartygirl]

As a follower of both Epstein and Maxwell, I am interested in the list. However, I'm not hopeful that names of the involved rich and famous will appear. They somehow will be protected. I know it's unfair and I hope I am wrong MOO

I was so happy to hear the list will be made public but my husband keeps telling me to calm down, that the "big", important names will be redacted or protected.
Bummer--if that happens. They should be named publicly also, IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

Anyone here excited for the release of Epstein's list??? I am.

Not really but I'm honestly curious why folks are excited to see the names on this list.

 

[LinasK]

Not really but I'm honestly curious why folks are excited to see the names on this list.

Perps that sexually explicit young women deserve to be publicly exposed, not protected.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Perps that sexually explicit young women deserve to be publicly exposed, not protected.

Of course I agree they certainly deserve to be exposed.
Do you think they'll also be held accountable in any way by the criminal justice system?

 

[Vern]

Not really but I'm honestly curious why folks are excited to see the names on this list.

Me too, but at this oint I'm more curious as to what exactly is the "list".

- Is it a list of people who rented/loaned his plane from him when he wasn't usng it?
- People who used it to fly all over the world on business or pleasure (more interesting would be those who flew on that plane of his to 'the island'.
- A list of names of his business associates?
- A list of names of his fiends?
- A list of names of people from a 'little black book'??

Anyne know exactly "what" this list is/where it's from and how one would know or not know whether anyone "on" this ist is therefore an abuser of young girls? Or is that an assumption that this list is that of abusers names?

Not a case I have been tracking, so I am unsure 'what/who' this list is/signifies.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Me too, but at this oint I'm more curious as to what exactly is the "list".

- Is it a list of people who rented/loaned his plane from him when he wasn't usng it?
- People who used it to fly all over the world on business or pleasure (more interesting would be those who flew on that plane of his to 'the island'.
- A list of names of his business associates?
- A list of names of his fiends?
- A list of names of people from a 'little black book'??

Anyne know exactly "what" this list is/where it's from and how one would know or not know whether anyone "on" this ist is therefore an abuser of young girls? Or is that an assumption that this list is that of abusers names?

Not a case I have been tracking, so I am unsure 'what/who' this list is/signifies.

From what I understand, it's a list of names who visited the island specifically for what Epstein bought it for.
The list, is a list of paying clients, that paid to go the island to have sexual relations with underage girls.

Of course every single name on the list will deny it, and then nothing will happen. Literally nothing.

jmo

 

[housewife]

From what I understand, it's a list of names who visited the island specifically for what Epstein bought it for.
The list, is a list of paying clients, that paid to go the island to have sexual relations with underage girls.

Of course every single name on the list will deny it, and then nothing will happen. Literally nothing.

jmo

I agree, it looks pessimistic for justice at the moment. However, ownership of their crimes can't happen until their names are published.
I can hope that the many victims could post a photo or receipt as evidence on social media, and another "allegation" would be proven true. Or empower more victims to come forward.

Politicians flip on each other all of the time to save themselves, so do former partners. I think it would only be beneficial to publish a list of sex abusers. Justice has to start somewhere. If not justice, then career -ending consequences for those abusers listed as no one will want to work with them anymore.

I gotta have hope. For the victims.

 

[Vern]

From what I understand, it's a list of names who visited the island specifically for what Epstein bought it for.
The list, is a list of paying clients, that paid to go the island to have sexual relations with underage girls.

Of course every single name on the list will deny it, and then nothing will happen. Literally nothing.

jmo

Seen.

So it's confirmed then that the list is of clients who visited the Island for illicit purposes and not just those who borrowed/rented/vactionned in this spot (like an "Air BnB Island" so to speak) while Epstein and the girls weren't there.

Wowzers. One would think that they could be charged if it's confirmed they cavorted with and abused uneraged victims on a private island.

 

[LinasK]

I agree, it looks pessimistic for justice at the moment. However, ownership of their crimes can't happen until their names are published.
I can hope that the many victims could post a photo or receipt as evidence on social media, and another "allegation" would be proven true. Or empower more victims to come forward.

Politicians flip on each other all of the time to save themselves, so do former partners. I think it would only be beneficial to publish a list of sex abusers. Justice has to start somewhere. If not justice, then career -ending consequences for those abusers listed as no one will want to work with them anymore.

I gotta have hope. For the victims.

It finally happened for E. Jean Carroll.

 

[Vern]

I agree, it looks pessimistic for justice at the moment. However, ownership of their crimes can't happen until their names are published.
I can hope that the many victims could post a photo or receipt as evidence on social media, and another "allegation" would be proven true. Or empower more victims to come forward.

Politicians flip on each other all of the time to save themselves, so do former partners. I think it would only be beneficial to publish a list of sex abusers. Justice has to start somewhere. If not justice, then career -ending consequences for those abusers listed as no one will want to work with them anymore.

I gotta have hope. For the victims.

Shouldn't there be flight logs showing these girls going in/out of the Island at times when these paying Epstein clients were there as they (these young victims) were flown on his plane no?

 

[LinasK]

Jeffrey Epstein's list of associates—what we know as names to be revealed

A huge trove of documents is soon to be released in the Jeffery Epstein case.

www.newsweek.com

 

[arielilane]

Hundreds of sealed court filings pertaining to the late sex-offender Jeffrey Epstein are set to be made public this week, and several prominent names -- including Britain's Prince Andrew and former President Bill Clinton -- are expected to appear in the documents.


U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska ruled earlier this month there was no legal justification for continuing to conceal the ex-president's name and more than 150 names other "John and Jane Does" mentioned in the records. Preska ordered the unsealing to begin after Jan. 1.


...

This batch will involve the names of additional Epstein associates, alleged perpetrators, alleged co-conspirators, alleged victims, witnesses and former Epstein employees. Several of the "Does" mentioned in the documents are now deceased.


Full article at link ...


Court documents naming Jeffrey Epstein's associates to be unsealed: What to know
December 31, 2023, 5:04 AM

 

[schooling]

From what I understand, it's a list of names who visited the island specifically for what Epstein bought it for.
The list, is a list of paying clients, that paid to go the island to have sexual relations with underage girls.

Of course every single name on the list will deny it, and then nothing will happen. Literally nothing.

jmo

I haven't seen any credible reporting that says anything like the above.