NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #5

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Jeffrey Epstein offered money to prove claims Stephen Hawking had an 'underage orgy' were false, bombshell court documents show​



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Jeffrey Epstein documents show pedophile emailed Ghislaine Maxwell to deny claims Professor Stephen Hawking participated in UNDERAGE ORGY at predator's island​


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Stephen Hawking pictured at a barbecue on Jeffrey Epstein's Caribbean island Little St. James in 2006

Surely this allegation by VRG stretches credulity?
 
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So Copperfield knew what was going on but did zero about it?

Wait, he did do something. Had dinner.
I've said it before but Epstein's reputation was WELL known among the rich & famous powerful crowd. They ALL knew.
They either participated or looked the other way.
 
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I've said it before but Epstein's reputation was WELL known among the rich & famous powerful crowd. They ALL knew.
They either participated or looked the other way.

Exactly



"Epstein was hiding in plain sight," said Cindy McCain. "We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was — no legal aspect that would go after him. They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him."

 
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Jan 04, 2024 at 9:25 AM EST
Its funny how many MSM articles lead this story with an image of Trump & Epstein together lol.
The world already knows Trump is morally bankrupt, but in this particular case, it doesn't appear that he was one of the repeat clients on Pedo Island.
 
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"Epstein was hiding in plain sight," said Cindy McCain. "We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was — no legal aspect that would go after him. They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him."

This is very distressing.

Does this mean John McCain had knowledge of this, too? He would have been in a position to do something about it and absolutely should have.

As to David Copperfield…it’s great that he had some realization that things were unsavory and criminal, but whether he alerted authorities, I think we don’t yet know.

IMO some of the info is underwhelming, in that many of the names seem to have just known him but thankfully did not participate in sexually abusing underage girls. Of course if it’s true that everyone knew about him, I would have hoped that these other powerful people would NOT have been intimidated to report Epstein to the authorities.

It is difficult to imagine Hawking physically involved in an orgy, but who knows for sure, maybe he was able to passively “receive?” Ugh.

We already know about Andrew and honestly I wouldn’t put anything past Clinton. I wouldn’t put anything past Trump either, but so far it just seems they went to his casino.

Michael Jackson…ugh also. Nothing so far says he was involved, though.

JMO

ETA: I have friends who grew up with Epstein in the Seagate neighborhood of Brooklyn, N.Y. According to them he was just an ordinary, middle-class guy, had friends, not an outcast or anything. None of them could have predicted he’d grow up to become what he became.…a billionaire, famous, and a berserk pedophile and sex addict.
 
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Its funny how many MSM articles lead this story with an image of Trump & Epstein together lol.
The world already knows Trump is morally bankrupt, but in this particular case, it doesn't appear that he was one of the repeat clients on Pedo Island.
I think it's considered newsworthy because he is still trying to run for president? IMHO
 
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Its funny how many MSM articles lead this story with an image of Trump & Epstein together lol.
The world already knows Trump is morally bankrupt, but in this particular case, it doesn't appear that he was one of the repeat clients on Pedo Island.
I think it depends on which news agency. Certain ones have focused more on the Trump connection while others are very focused on the Clinton connection.

So many known and/or notable people were associated with JE, some closely, others less so. Appearing on lists of associates, whether close or not, doesn't indicate they were predators themselves. It certainly does indicate that many many many people knew or suspected his predatory predilections and yet looked the other way because it benefited them somehow to continue that association. MOO
 
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This is very distressing.

Does this mean John McCain had knowledge of this, too? He would have been in a position to do something about it and absolutely should have.
Yes, for an operation this extensive we know many people had knowledge and did nothing. I feel that is the crux of this entire investigation.
ETA: I have friends who grew up with Epstein in the Seagate neighborhood of Brooklyn, N.Y. According to them he was just an ordinary, middle-class guy, had friends, not an outcast or anything. None of them could have predicted he’d grow up to become what he became.…a billionaire, famous, and a berserk pedophile and sex addict.
I would be fascinated to learn what Epstein was like as a teenager. Did they have pets? Did his younger brother get along with him?
 
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"Epstein list reignites suspicion the pedo financier was working for Mossad
and blackmailing the elite with help of 'useful idiot' Prince Andrew -
after meeting Israeli PM Ehud Barak at least THIRTY SIX times."



The List live

 
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"Epstein list reignites suspicion the pedo financier was working for Mossad
and blackmailing the elite with help of 'useful idiot' Prince Andrew -
after meeting Israeli PM Ehud Barak at least THIRTY SIX times."



The List live


An example of irresponsible headlines.

Barak is only named once in the documents where someone denies ever meeting him. Nothing new in there about any alleged blackmail conspiracy.

Freeh is named in a filing with list of people they want to depose and Freeh is listed as having knowledge about Clinton. Elsewhere in the documents it shows Freeh saying Clinton was not on the island.
 
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An example of irresponsible headlines.

Barak is only named once in the documents where someone denies ever meeting him. Nothing new in there about any alleged blackmail conspiracy.

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It is good to check info ;)
Lots of MSM links out there.
 
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Hmmm...

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It is good to check info ;)
Lots of MSM links out there.

That's all prior reporting and, and as I said there nothing about any of that in the documents just released.
 
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Hmmm...

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It is good to check info ;)
Lots of MSM links out there.
It was certainly poor judgment, IMO, to hang out with Epstein but apparently Epstein was an investor in a tech startup that Barak was trying to get off the ground.

There is nothing to suggest Barak was involved in any crime or any inappropriate relationship with any of the girls.

In fact it seems to me that while the press was salivating to find big names involved in pedophilia, so far almost all of them are being tarred mainly for just knowing him.

Poor judgment but not a crime. The criminals so far are Epstein, Prince Andrew and Ghislane Maxwell, and if others come to light who were actually involved in soliciting or abusing the girls, then I hope they get their just deserts.
 
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I think it's considered newsworthy because he is still trying to run for president? IMHO
And there are numerous photographs of him partying with Epstein. I still don't believe that Epstein died by suicide. I think it was a coverup.
 
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IMO, Epstein had "the goods' on a lot of very influential peeps.
He got caught being the p e d o that he is.....and wasn't going down without spilling the goods. The FBI were successful in cleaning up the island of all incriminating evidence. And JE was not going to be 'talking' for long.

The attorney for the prosecution of GM was instrumental in agreeing with keeping much of the evidence hidden.

So, who exactly is covering up what now? And, for whom?


All MOO
 
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IMO, Epstein had "the goods' on a lot of very influential peeps.
He got caught being the p e d o that he is.....and wasn't going down without spilling the goods. The FBI were successful in cleaning up the island of all incriminating evidence. And JE was not going to be 'talking' for long.

The attorney for the prosecution of GM was instrumental in agreeing with keeping much of the evidence hidden.

So, who exactly is covering up what now? And, for whom?


All MOO
Inquiring minds would like to know. I have my own theories...
 
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