NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #5

[AngTxGal]

No, not all of them. There were prosecutors from different states, different political backgrounds. Hopefully some of them will be tired of protecting Epstein.

Nobody is protecting Epstein anymore- he was never protected very well- as he went down and then was silenced. It isn’t Epstein that has something to lose here.

I think it is hopeful to believe the full truth will ever come out regarding Epstein clients and victims and related thugs and pervs and money and politics.
I also think Epstein and Maxwell must have been low hanging fruit- they were sacrificed to appease the public.
A millionaire does not have the same power and influence as a billionaire.
And remember Prince Andrew- he settled out of court using $$.

The rest of the fruit must not be so low hanging- that is why it is 2025 and the number of victims has been hinted at being over 1000 over decades and we don’t know the clients (pervs).

We do know one of them may currently reside in the White House- with the ability to pardon Maxwell.
My recent fall into the Arkansas case of Kevin Ives and Don Henry has been quite eye opening.

I could very well be wrong, but I don’t think the American public is expecting the actual full truth, is ready for that truth, would recognize it if they saw it, or would believe it anyways.
It would take much for me to imagine a world where ‘justice for all’ was an ideal reality in the USA.
We seem quite past that at this point- and maybe I’m just waking up to that fact?

I wish I shared your optimism
IMO

 

[CuriousCricket]

Nobody is protecting Epstein anymore- he was never protected very well- as he went down and then was silenced. It isn’t Epstein that has something to lose here.

I think it is hopeful to believe the full truth will ever come out regarding Epstein clients and victims and related thugs and pervs and money and politics.
I also think Epstein and Maxwell must have been low hanging fruit- they were sacrificed to appease the public.
A millionaire does not have the same power and influence as a billionaire.
And remember Prince Andrew- he settled out of court using $$.

The rest of the fruit must not be so low hanging- that is why it is 2025 and the number of victims has been hinted at being over 1000 over decades and we don’t know the clients (pervs).

We do know one of them may currently reside in the White House- with the ability to pardon Maxwell.
My recent fall into the Arkansas case of Kevin Ives and Don Henry has been quite eye opening.

I could very well be wrong, but I don’t think the American public is expecting the actual full truth, is ready for that truth, would recognize it if they saw it, or would believe it anyways.
It would take much for me to imagine a world where ‘justice for all’ was an ideal reality in the USA.
We seem quite past that at this point- and maybe I’m just waking up to that fact?

I wish I shared your optimism
IMO

I agree completely. Plus, we all see things from our own perspectives. As I have considered this case, it has occurred to me that not everyone on Epstein's "list" or in his rollodex might have been anything more than an acquaintance - someone rich, famous, or powerful whom he wooed and courted. How much do we know about people we meet at parties? Even if we're at all the same parties? Play golf or bridge with? Travel with? How much does each of us really know about the people we live with even?

Your perspective that JE and GM were the low-hanging fruit is interesting to me. He was a striver, social climber, certainly who thought he'd made it hanging out with royalty, but in the end completely disposable. Very interesting.

 

[AngTxGal]

I agree completely. Plus, we all see things from our own perspectives. As I have considered this case, it has occurred to me that not everyone on Epstein's "list" or in his rollodex might have been anything more than an acquaintance - someone rich, famous, or powerful whom he wooed and courted. How much do we know about people we meet at parties? Even if we're at all the same parties? Play golf or bridge with? Travel with? How much does each of us really know about the people we live with even?

Your perspective that JE and GM were the low-hanging fruit is interesting to me. He was a striver, social climber, certainly who thought he'd made it hanging out with royalty, but in the end completely disposable. Very interesting.

I think people that run in such circles use power and money and people and connections to get what they want- more power and money, more status. If we start from that assumption- then every party and interaction and wooing has a point, it was transactional not relational.
There is a spectrum, or pecking order, and an evolution of what each person is willing to do or ignore or give, or take. What will a person justify, if the think the ends justifies the means.

We are talking about preying on young girls- a systematic process to obtain, exploit, and get financially compensated for it. Wow, that is depraved.

Those of us who have lived on the periphery or outside of high power circles, who are motivated by other things, can’t quite digest or understand such a transactional mindset.
People who follow TrueCrime and don’t think like this, like myself, are regularly surprised at the depths of depravity possible among human beings.

So, I agree- how well do you know the people in your life? We all have secrets, but some secrets bring us mild shame- some are life altering or earth shattering. Like Epstein

I know this- you find out what people are made of when you need them, when they don’t get their way, when they obtain power, and when they are drunk.
Watch and listen closely- they will tell you who they are. Don’t you think?

So- whatever choice G Maxwell chooses- it will be to benefit her.
Does she have as much power in her testimony as some think she does? I don’t think so-
We know she has few options and she is capable of justifying depravity.
She is marked for the rest of her life.
She literally has nothing to lose an everything to lose.

IMO

 

[acutename]

I don’t think we know if it’s the first time. We also don’t know what kind of deal this DOJ will reach with her, or if any evidence she reveals will ever be made public or, if criminal, will be acted upon.

There’s a major conflict of interest right now regarding this DOJ and the POTUS who appointed them to their current positions. This major conflict is centered around the fact that this POTUS had a longstanding relationship/ friendship with Maxwell and Epstein.

Until those conflicts of interest are resolved, it’s impossible to trust anything that comes from this investigation. It would be especially troubling if this POTUS chose to “pardon” Maxwell, as he has done for many other dangerous convicted criminals.

GM is a convicted felon... so we are going to believe what she says now? Also, if you believe that she was a person who was easily influenced by JE, do you believe that she has suddenly developed a firm spine and an independent honest sense of right and wrong?

 

[Inthedetails]

GM is a convicted felon... so we are going to believe what she says now? Also, if you believe that she was a person who was easily influenced by JE, do you believe that she has suddenly developed a firm spine and an independent honest sense of right and wrong?

And she was the one, not Epstein, who had social connections to many of the elite, being her father's daughter. Would she give up information to expose an elite network?

Or, would she give info without negotiating a deal for herself and/or for favored/powerful people on the list?

And would anything she says be true, or considered true.

jmo

 

[sds71]

The Justice Department has already accused Maxwell of being a pervasive liar.
The prosecutors who brought charges against Maxwell repeatedly told the judge overseeing her 2021 trial that she was willing to “brazenly lie under oath about her conduct.” And they noted that her lies were the subject of two perjury counts, arguing that “they evidence her willingness to flout the law in order to protect herself.”
(The counts, which were initially expected to be the subject of a second trial, were dropped after her conviction on the sex-trafficking charges.)

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/22/ghislaine-maxwell-doj-questions-00468570

 

[Inthedetails]

The Justice Department has already accused Maxwell of being a pervasive liar.
The prosecutors who brought charges against Maxwell repeatedly told the judge overseeing her 2021 trial that she was willing to “brazenly lie under oath about her conduct.” And they noted that her lies were the subject of two perjury counts, arguing that “they evidence her willingness to flout the law in order to protect herself.”
(The counts, which were initially expected to be the subject of a second trial, were dropped after her conviction on the sex-trafficking charges.)

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/22/ghislaine-maxwell-doj-questions-00468570

GM being labeled a liar benefits everyone (except the victims).

jmo

 

[sds71]

@KlasfeldReports


Second Circuit orders a federal judge to review whether more records should be UNSEALED in Virginia Guiffre v. Ghislaine Maxwell, a lawsuit with a giant footprint in the Epstein saga.Unrelated to the grand jury minutes matter.What timing!

Full opinion here
https://ww3.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/b5332445-6da6-4128-81ac-3fa339a4a8ea/1/doc/24-182_opn.pdf#xml=https://ww3.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions/isysquery/b5332445-6da6-4128-81ac-3fa339a4a8ea/1/hilite/

A mysterious 'Doe 183' is trying to keep Jeffrey Epstein documents under seal. Could it be Les Wexner?

An anonymous "Doe 183" has been waging a secret court battle to keep documents sealed in a lawsuit with Jeffrey Epstein's pal Ghislaine Maxwell.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[bestill]

DBM

 

[Inthedetails]

Are the Feds interviewing Ghislaine today??

 

[LinasK]

Are the Feds interviewing Ghislaine today??

Supposedly yes. Todd Blanche was going to interview her. I've also heard that she has "new evidence". Take that with a grain of salt- she was also convicted of Perjury.

 

[LinasK]

According to the lawyer for Epstein's victims, who was on the Lawrence O'Donnell's show last night- Epstein's Birthday Book is being held by the lawyers for his estate and can be subpoenaed (sp?) by Congress.

 

[Inthedetails]

Supposedly yes. Todd Blanche was going to interview her. I've also heard that she has "new evidence". Take that with a grain of salt- she was also convicted of Perjury.

Meeting happened and it seems it has concluded:

"Ghislaine Maxwell, serving a 20-year sentence for procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual gratification, had a 'productive' meeting on Thursday at the federal courthouse in Tallahassee with Deputy U.S. Attorney General Todd Blanche, her attorney told reporters.

'He took a full day and asked a lot of questions and Ms. Maxwell answered every single question,' her attorney, David Oscar Markus, said just outside the courthouse following the meeting. 'She never invoked a privilege. She never declined to answer. She answered all the questions truthfully, honestly and to the best of her ability.'"

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/po...-politics/article311344565.html#storylink=cpy

 

[BUF]

Supposedly yes. Todd Blanche was going to interview her. I've also heard that she has "new evidence". Take that with a grain of salt- she was also convicted of Perjury.

Yeah. She wouldn’t testify at her own trial, but she’ll answer questions from this lawyer now. One question I bet she’d answer truthfully is “Do you want a pardon?”

 

[BUF]

CNN reporting they’re meeting with Maxwell again tomorrow.

 

[LinasK]

Maria Farmer, one of his victims is speaking out again. They are portraying Maxwell as a victim.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Todd Blanche is Trump's attorney, so I'm sure he will be providing full transparency.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Trump says he hasn't considered pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell, but 'I'm allowed to do it'

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche met with Maxwell and her attorney Friday in Tallahassee for a second day of interviews.

www.nbcnews.com

A Presidential pardon for her silence?

 

[LinasK]

Trump says he hasn't considered pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell, but 'I'm allowed to do it'

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche met with Maxwell and her attorney Friday in Tallahassee for a second day of interviews.

www.nbcnews.com

A Presidential pardon for her silence?

Probably. Expect one any day now. Or she'll indicate the Democrats like Bill Clinton, but exonorate Trump.

 

[Dotta]

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