NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #5

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It's doubtful he was engaged in a business of selling to others the girls and women he trafficked. They were foremost for him, with occasional offers to other men. Only a handful of other men have been named by survivors. moo

Edwards below is an attorney for several survivors.

What we know and don't know about Jeffrey Epstein, according to key victims' attorney

"Jeffrey Epstein was the pimp and the john. He was his own No. 1 client," Edwards told ABC News. "Nearly all of the exploitation and abuse of all of the women was intended to benefit only Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein's sexual desires."

Edwards describes the enigmatic Epstein as living, essentially, two separate lives: one in which he was sexually abusing women and girls "on a daily basis," and another in which he associated with politicians, royalty, and titans of business, academia, and science.

"For the most part, those two worlds did not overlap. And where they overlapped, in the instances they overlapped, it seems to be a very small percentage," Edwards said. "There were occasions where a select few of these men engaged in sexual acts with a select few of the girls that Jeffrey Epstein was exploiting or abusing -- primarily girls who were over the age of 18."

"That conduct was coercive, it was exploitative, and it was bad. But it's a small fraction of the men he was associated with," Edwards said. "And he was abusing hundreds of women, if not a thousand. And it's a very small fraction of those women that he was sending to men. That conduct was secondary to his abusive conduct. [Epstein] abused all of these women."

Edwards said he is bound by attorney-client privilege and cannot ethically reveal the names of any of Epstein's alleged associates without permission from his clients. But he said he has seen no indication that Epstein kept a list of those men, or that he made it a practice to use those instances to blackmail or extort the men, even though those men may have been legitimately concerned that Epstein had compromising information that he could use against them.
The Birthday Book is a virtual client list.
 
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Article on the seeming attempt(s) to rehabilitate GM, from The Guardian:


From the article:

Dershowitz, who helped procure a lenient plea deal for Epstein in 2008, also wrote an op-ed for the LA Times in 1997 headlined Statutory Rape Is an Outdated Concept, in which he argued 15 seems “appropriate” for the age of consent. Dershowitz suggested some “reasonable people” might even favour 14 – which happens to be the age of some of Epstein’s victims. When that op-ed resurfaced in 2019, after Epstein’s arrest, Dershowitz defended it, saying he stood by “the constitutional (not moral) argument” offered.
 
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The fact that GM, a spoiled society girl, rates interviews with the Federal DOJ (do I understand that correctly?) is infurating and screams about the inequities of the "justice system". Her money can hire attorneys to take her case to the Supreme Court in the country.

Unless the DOJ is prepared to interview every person convicted of the same crime, I am deeply opposed to her receiving preferential treatment because of the money and power -- and headlines -- associated with this case.
I think it has a lot more to do with recent high level appointments to the DOJ, than the normal operations of the justice system.
 
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Apparently her attorney feels free to law down their laws and how she will cooperate. All the demanding, all the protection for GM . . . is disgusting to me. I do realize that is how things are done, trading benefits for information. Still, it is the rights of the privileged and reserved only for the worst offenders as only those most deeply involved in the gravest crimes have information to trade. Ironic, isn't it?
 
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Apparently her attorney feels free to law down their laws and how she will cooperate. All the demanding, all the protection for GM . . . is disgusting to me. I do realize that is how things are done, trading benefits for information. Still, it is the rights of the privileged and reserved only for the worst offenders as only those most deeply involved in the gravest crimes have information to trade. Ironic, isn't it?
However, if she and everyone else associated with these crimes were not rich and famous, nobody would know anything about it.

It would never have been in the news, people would never have written books about it, proposed theories about it, discussed it on websleuths, or gotten furious about it.
 
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Trigger warning: sexual assault.

Here is an interview between Katie Couric and Epstein survivor Jess Michaels. I thought it an important illustration of how much damage Epstein caused to a single individual. Now multiply that by his estimated 1,000 victims and :mad:.

 
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Trigger warning: sexual assault.

Here is an interview between Katie Couric and Epstein survivor Jess Michaels. I thought it an important illustration of how much damage Epstein caused to a single individual. Now multiply that by his estimated 1,000 victims and :mad:.


I've watched this one. It's very interesting because her assault happened in 91 before GM was in the picture. But he had the same M.O. already, where a female accomplice lures her into his presence. He would not have been able to have had access to so many victims without his female recruiters, who are needed to fool the victims into thinking they will be safe enough to be there. In this case it was someone who was a roommate of hers who she trusted even moreso. And this account also shows how he had already perfected his own technique of progressively throwing you off guard where he basically stuns you with his brazenness until like here you are rendered immobile and he strikes.

She never went back to him after the attack but it threw the course of her life off.
 
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I'm watching the Netflix series Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich and oh em gee.

The stories the survivors tell are so similar, and so heartbreaking.

Seeing Virginia Giuffre speaking, knowing today what happened to her, brought me to tears.

She had a clear-eyed grasp, in retrospect, of exactly how JE and GM manipulated her.

So did all of the other survivors.
 
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One of the things that makes me skeptical about JE dying by suicide:

Up until that point he had gotten away with everything. He had the resources to assemble cream of the crop defense lawyers, as he did in the Florida case, and every reason to believe he'd be able to get away with these charges as well.
 
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Well, given that his dear sister perjured herself, and his father stole millions of dollars from employee retirement funds, I guess he knows a lot about consummate liars.
 
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@kylegriffin1

BREAKING on MSNBC:Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney has confirmed to NBC News that Maxwell has just been moved to a federal prison in Texas. That prison — FPC Bryan in Bryan, TX — is a minimum-security federal prison camp.

 
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@kylegriffin1

BREAKING on MSNBC:Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney has confirmed to NBC News that Maxwell has just been moved to a federal prison in Texas. That prison — FPC Bryan in Bryan, TX — is a minimum-security federal prison camp.

I was just about to post the same.

"Maxwell attorney David Oscar Markus also confirmed to USA TODAY that, 'Ghislaine was moved to Bryan Texas but we have no other comment' as to why the transfer was made and who requested it."

 
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FPC Bryan also holds Elizabeth Holmes and Jen Shah.

 
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@kylegriffin1

BREAKING on MSNBC:Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney has confirmed to NBC News that Maxwell has just been moved to a federal prison in Texas. That prison — FPC Bryan in Bryan, TX — is a minimum-security federal prison camp.

Oh great, she can be best buds with Elizabeth Holmes, another liar and con artist. Club Fed.
 
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She'll be in gen/pop, FWIW.
 
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