NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #5

[Betty P]

Sorry but at this point all files related to Epstein - including all his contacts - need to be disclosed. Whoever is involved with him must be seen for what they are regardless of party or status. At this point everyone associated with him can be assumed to have known of his criminal activity - unless and until the documents prove otherwise. There is definitely a pedophile ring among the ultra rich and powerful. We need to eradicate it, root and branch. I want them all in jail. No forgiveness, no forgetting!

Agree completely, but I doubt that will ever happen. They don't usually follow through on these kind of promises, they're just stalling as they plan more distractions.

 

[Charlot123]

Sorry but at this point all files related to Epstein - including all his contacts - need to be disclosed. Whoever is involved with him must be seen for what they are regardless of party or status. At this point everyone associated with him can be assumed to have known of his criminal activity - unless and until the documents prove otherwise. There is definitely a pedophile ring among the ultra rich and powerful. We need to eradicate it, root and branch. I want them all in jail. No forgiveness, no forgetting!

They could all be disclosed as well. But then, all, but all, because give or take, the visitors are already compromised. I honestly view the outfit more like a cleverly organized honey trap with huge potential for future blackmail than a pedophile ring, but what do i know? The first time i heard the term "pedophile island" was from a not-too-well-read person. I thought he was a conspiracy theorist, but go guess... In short, I didn't even believe it existed and smart people would willingly go there.

 

[Inthedetails]

They could all be disclosed as well. But then, all, but all, because give or take, the visitors are already compromised. I honestly view the outfit more like a cleverly organized honey trap with huge potential for future blackmail than a pedophile ring, but what do i know? The first time i heard the term "pedophile island" was from a not-too-well-read person. I thought he was a conspiracy theorist, but go guess... In short, I didn't even believe it existed and smart people would willingly go there.

I agree, and sometimes I don't even think it was a honey-pot ring but party-favors for guests. I do believe the girls were procured and SA happened - and that blackmail happened for some. But, at that level, the rich and powerful men do not need Epstein and Ghislaine to get girls for them - they can get whatever they want for a price anywhere in the world. There was more to the "ring" than sex, imo. But any theories do indeed seem crazier than a sex ring.

jmopinion

 

[Charlot123]

I agree, and sometimes I don't even think it was a honey-pot ring but party-favors for guests. I do believe the girls were procured and SA happened - and that blackmail happened for some. But, at that level, the rich and powerful men do not need Epstein and Ghislaine to get girls for them - they can get whatever they want for a price anywhere in the world. There was more to the "ring" than sex, imo. But any theories do indeed seem crazier than a sex ring.

jmopinion

You are right. The rich and the powerful are not stupid and understand the principle of “being on tapes”. It might have been even “a visit to the moneyed donor” for some. Other things, like inviting scientists, conferences, my god!, might have been more targeted. Anyhow, “those in power” all showed lackadaisical attitude to the man managing the money of a rich tycoon. In 2010 this place absolutely had to be shut down and Maxwell, kicked out. Ultimately, the story ended up hurting the US. But, information gets aged so fast that I don’t know if “the Epstein files” are relevant now, tbh.

 

[Inthedetails]

But, information gets aged so fast that I don’t know if “the Epstein files” are relevant now, tbh.

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Exactly why the delays happened, imo.

jmopinion

 

[Tragg]

They could all be disclosed as well. But then, all, but all, because give or take, the visitors are already compromised. I honestly view the outfit more like a cleverly organized honey trap with huge potential for future blackmail than a pedophile ring, but what do i know? The first time i heard the term "pedophile island" was from a not-too-well-read person. I thought he was a conspiracy theorist, but go guess... In short, I didn't even believe it existed and smart people would willingly go there.

I recommend "Elite Predators" for a glimpse into the world of ultra-wealthy pedophiles.

I don't know what a "pedophile ring" would look like at this level, but there is evidence that guests who visited Epstein's sexualized residence, viewed his first edition of Lolita prominently displayed, and flew on the "Lolita Express" approved and endorsed his proclivity for underage women.

One letter from Woody Allen (who himself was accused of abusing his 7-year old daughter) seem illustrative IMO:

"Allen reminisced about Epstein’s dinner parties at his Upper East Side townhouse and described the gatherings as 'always interesting. He noted that the parties included 'politicians, scientists, teachers, magicians, comedians, intellectuals, journalists' and 'even royalty.

Allen also described the dinners as 'well served: 'I say well served – often it’s by some professional houseman and just as often by several young women' who he said reminded him of 'Castle Dracula where Lugosi has three young female vampires who service the place.'"

I assume not all Epstein's guests were pedophiles, but his proclivity seems very likely to have been an open secret among his wide circle of friends. Anyone who did want a secret tryst with an underage girl on a secluded island knew who to ask without being part of an organized group of pedophiles.

We need to know as much as possible about Epstein's clients and guests, and to have a public airing of just what roles Epstein played in their lives and relationships.

MOO

 

[zleuther]

Wow. Simple reminder folks, it's only the perps who'd prefer that there never were these files.

 

[sds71]

The U.S. Justice Department has released transcripts and audio of their interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, convicted sex abuser.

"I just want to say that I find -- I -- I admire his extraordinary achievement in becoming the President now. And I like him, and I've always liked him. So that is the sum and substance of my entire relationship with him."

Maxwell Interview

www.justice.gov

Ghislaine Maxwell provided no incriminating information during meetings with deputy AG on high-profile individuals who interacted with Jeffrey Epstein, transcript shows

Ghislaine Maxwell said she never witnessed any inappropriate activity by Donald Trump or Bill Clinton, according to a transcript of her meeting last month with the DOJ.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Steve Lookner is covering the released audio on youtube, live right now. He uses MSM sources and is not a circus-type youtuber. The channel is Agenda Free TV if interested.

fwiw

 

[zleuther]

Key takeaway: Maxwell admits to no crimes.

Key question is about as obvious as news analysis can get. "Todd Blanche, what exactly was the purpose of the Maxwell interview?"

 

[Dotta]

"The Justice Department has unsealed transcripts and released audio from Ghislaine Maxwell's nine-hour grilling by deputy attorney general Todd Blanche.

In the transcripts, Maxwell repeats her 2023 claim that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, as well as denying there was a so-called 'client list' of high-profile people to whom the financier trafficked girls."

Ghislaine Maxwell's bizarre defense of Epstein's younger women

Transcripts from Ghislaine Maxwell's secret DOJ interview revealed

www.dailymail.co.uk

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[IzzyBlanche]

I just heard on MSNBC that Maxwell said she never saw Epstein do anything that wasn't consensual.

 

[Catmommy]

Honestly, did anyone expect her to say anything different? Anyone? Anything?

 

[Inthedetails]

Honestly, did anyone expect her to say anything different? Anyone? Anything?

True. The whole bunch of them thought it was consenual. You even hear people say that when talking about Epstein - "the girls liked it or they wouldn't have been there."

Key word: girls.

jmopinion

 

[Catmommy]

True. The whole bunch of them thought it was consenual. You even hear people say that when talking about Epstein - "the girls liked it or they wouldn't have been there."

Key word: girls.

jmopinion

People will always have a "reason" for exploiting others, especially drunked up, drugged up young girls who literally had no power. Sadly enough, and have no doubt, the players have changed but, for many, the song remains the same. And always will - in my jaded and disgusted opinion.

 

[Dotta]

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[sds71]

Virginia Giuffre’s lawyer Sigrid McCawley reacts to the Maxwell transcripts, saying Maxwell “repeatedly and brazenly lied” to the government and is trying to “recreate history.”

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[IzzyBlanche]

JMO. If a convicted sex trafficker is serving as your character witness, you may have made a few bad life choices.

 

[Nieves]

People will always have a "reason" for exploiting others, especially drunked up, drugged up young girls who literally had no power. Sadly enough, and have no doubt, the players have changed but, for many, the song remains the same. And always will - in my jaded and disgusted opinion.

Perps

 

[Nieves]

I just heard on MSNBC that Maxwell said she never saw Epstein do anything that wasn't consensual.

jaja