NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, July 2020 #2

[Kemug]

Of course, lack of cleanliness (personal or otherwise) often goes with depression. It would not be surprising if GM is suffering seriously from depression, given her likely future. I could almost feel sorry for her . . . no, I couldn't.

 

[BeachSky]

The Courtlistener's reporter must be clairvoyant to know GM's "lowest observed weight was 133 pounds in July of 2021." BBM

I know... I saw that year typo.
I agree with RickshawFan, they are on to her game.
Kudos.


MOO

 

[Puzzles]

Oh dear, is this where the defence is going? BBM.

"...Attorney Bobbi Sternheim wrote in a letter late Wednesday that an effort by prosecutors “to publicly embarrass and humiliate Ms. Maxwell in the hostile court of public opinion further erodes the likelihood that her case will be tried by a fair and impartial jury.”...


Fight over Ghislaine Maxwell's jail conditions heats up

 

[RickshawFan]

Oh dear, is this where the defence is going? BBM.

"...Attorney Bobbi Sternheim wrote in a letter late Wednesday that an effort by prosecutors “to publicly embarrass and humiliate Ms. Maxwell in the hostile court of public opinion further erodes the likelihood that her case will be tried by a fair and impartial jury.”...


Fight over Ghislaine Maxwell's jail conditions heats up

Yes, this has been their strategy. However, I'm sure there are plenty of potential jury members who know diddly squat about GM. At least one problem (of many) of people like her is they think they are on everyone's radar.
Also, the "embarrassment and humiliation" reflect the content of the charges. There's no gratuitous defamation here. And, if she counts not flushing her toilet under the embarrassed and humiliated rubric, there was an easy remedy: do like everyone else and flush after you do your business.
And what did GM think would happen if she made a list of jail complaints? She didn't realize most court documents are public and she'd get a public response? And her attorney was the one that first trotted them out in the tabloids, no?

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I am projecting here, to dovetail with a post ^^^^. At least one point GM is "embarrassed and humiliated" about is that everyone now knows her weight. I'm thinking she's the sort of woman that really minds.......

 

[JerseyGirl]

Ghislaine Maxwell, citing new charges, seeks trial delay

 

[sds71]

In a landmark decision, a U.S. appeals court on Thursday rejected the 12-year quest of a Jeffrey Epstein survivor to hold the government accountable for giving the infamous child predator a clandestine deal that essentially allowed him to get out of jail after a minimal sentence, and, according to recent lawsuits, continue to abuse girls and women.

The 7-4 decision by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals was split along gender lines, with the four female judges issuing a scathing rebuke of the majority’s interpretation of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act (CVRA). The decision, unless it is overturned on further appeal, could allow wealthy defendants to continue to arrange favorable plea deals from the government without any oversight or accountability, said an attorney who originally filed the challenge.

“The ruling is very disturbing. It sets up two systems of justice, one for wealthy defendants who can negotiate deals before charges are filed — and one for most criminal defendants, who don’t have the wealth and power to arrange those kinds of deals,’’ said the attorney, Paul Cassell.


Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article250708509.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Kemug]

She could always make friends with the rats in her filthy cell - I believe they make very good pets.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'm so elated GM has additional charges.

She is just as perverted, and depraved as the pedophile she teamed up with in order for them both to rape, and torture all of their victims.

GM is a pedophile just like he was, and just as evil to the core. Sociopaths have an uncanny ability to recognize someone just like them. I see this on ID, and OWN where a male, and female team up to do the most horrific sadistic violence against innocent people they both target as their prey.

Our country has sadly become number one in human trafficking.

Like other sex traffickers it's done in secrecy behind four walls like these two monsters operated.

No longer are the victim/s solely taken to poorer areas in towns.

I've read several articles lately, One in my home state. The eight victims were found in a grand two story brick home with manicured lawns, and four expensive SUVs in the driveway in the Atlanta area.

Imo, it's an epidemic with many victims who are enduring the same rapes, and torture these two depraved slimeballs put their victims through.

No sentence she may get is enough for what she has done.

Jmho

 

[RickshawFan]

I feel like we're ganging up on someone who is "innocent until proven guilty". But do I care in this case? NO.

 

[Inthedetails]

She could always make friends with the rats in her filthy cell - I believe they make very good pets.

Given what seem like absolutely horrible living conditions in her current confinement, I would advise she plea guilty of something in exchange for a better jail to live out the rest of her life.

Not that she's interested in my advice, lol.

jmo

 

[tayaway]

Given what seem like absolutely horrible living conditions in her current confinement, I would advise she plea guilty of something in exchange for a better jail to live out the rest of her life.

Not that she's interested in my advice, lol.

jmo

Would they even offer her a plea deal? SDNY needed an airtight case before bringing charges.

 

[Inthedetails]

Would they even offer her a plea deal? SDNY needed an airtight case before bringing charges.

They might accept a plea if she names a bigger fish.

But who knows.

jmo

 

[RickshawFan]

Would they even offer her a plea deal? SDNY needed an airtight case before bringing charges.

I think this, too. The only possible deal she could get would be if she snitches on someone higher up the chain.
On this matter of prison choice.....can you get better digs as part of a plea deal? I would hope she doesn't get to be at Club Fed.
IMO she won't do well in general population, but she'd better get used to it. No way the rest of the perp gals are going to put up with a snob who exploited children....

 

[Sheila Terranova]

As someone who from 18 to 20 in NYC lived somewhat like her victims, I have very little sympathy for her. However, I hope rather than singling her out for pity, the USA could redress the prison conditions for ALL prisoners. Our prisons are unnecessarily terrifying and barbaric.

 

[Inthedetails]

As someone who from 18 to 20 in NYC lived somewhat like her victims, I have very little sympathy for her. However, I hope rather than singling her out for pity, the USA could redress the prison conditions for ALL prisoners. Our prisons are unnecessarily terrifying and barbaric.

Yes, the conditions are unnecessarily barbaric, though I don't think many, if anyone, is singling her out for pity.

My comment about making a plea for better conditions was simply my way of pointing out that admitting guilt could be her only hope for better conditions to live out her life, in my non-legal-expert opinion. I have no idea of that is actually an option. I suspect she has few options.

jmo

 

[Sheila Terranova]

Yes, the conditions are unnecessarily barbaric, though I don't think many, if anyone, is singling her out for pity.

My comment about making a plea for better conditions was simply my way of pointing out that admitting guilt could be her only hope for better conditions to live out her life, in my non-legal-expert opinion. I have no idea of that is actually an option. I suspect she has few options.

jmo

I hear you. I meant her lawyers were singling her out for pity, when they should be concerned about everybody’s mice, toilets or roaches.

 

[RickshawFan]

As someone who from 18 to 20 in NYC lived somewhat like her victims, I have very little sympathy for her. However, I hope rather than singling her out for pity, the USA could redress the prison conditions for ALL prisoners. Our prisons are unnecessarily terrifying and barbaric.

Ironically, GM's prison conditions sound pretty cush. She's allowed to use a computer and a laptop (specifically allocated to her) 12+ hours a day. Her meals are either baked or microwaved (sounds like the rest of us, and me on a good day). She's not in general pop and has her own space (and apparently her own day room as well?). And, in the scheme of things, she doesn't seem to get that many searches. Since she arrived, she's only had pat downs.
I do feel for other inmates, but especially their children.

 

[tayaway]

Ironically, GM's prison conditions sound pretty cush. She's allowed to use a computer and a laptop (specifically allocated to her) 12+ hours a day. Her meals are either baked or microwaved (sounds like the rest of us, and me on a good day). She's not in general pop and has her own space (and apparently her own day room as well?). And, in the scheme of things, she doesn't seem to get that many searches. Since she arrived, she's only had pat downs.
I do feel for other inmates, but especially their children.

Yes, the general population at the MDC suffer appalling conditions, but GM gets as many rich white woman privileges as physically possible. The other inmates can't be too happy about that.

eta: Independent: She's complaining about an FBI laptop that she's been given to sort through newly released photo evidence.

 

[RickshawFan]

Yes, the general population at the MDC suffer appalling conditions, but GM gets as many rich white woman privileges as physically possible. The other inmates can't be too happy about that.

eta: Independent: She's complaining about an FBI laptop that she's been given to sort through newly released photo evidence.

Yeah. She's been issued that laptop for her sole use for 14 or so hours a day. And she also has a computer at her disposal. IMO it's sickening the privileges she's been given.

I trust the prosecutor's office will come back with a fact-based report (in the same vein as the recent one) on what it is about the FBI laptop that has "technical issues". It's probably something like "I can't change the desktop photo" or "The FBI is recording the number of my clicks" or "The popup reminding me this is an FBI computer is interfering with my reading because I have to click on it and Agree every half hour" or "I'm not allowed to examine online photos and compare them to the 2100 photos of me with underage girls that the prosecutor belatedly turned over to my defense counsel".

 

[RickshawFan]

Judge rejects Ghislaine Maxwell’s bid to dismiss charges that she recruited girls


But check this out: The judge, however, did agree that Maxwell can be prosecuted separately on perjury charges.

Does this mean if one trail doesn't work out, the prosecutor can charge GM towards another trial?