NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, July 2020 #2

[Puzzles]

Excerpts from article describing new complaints from GM about her treatment:

"...Lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell are accusing guards at a federal detention center of improperly confiscating and reviewing her legal documents after she met with her lawyers at the facility over the weekend..."

"...Maxwell's lawyers said guards then "intimidated Ms. Maxwell" by standing "knee to knee" over her as she used the bathroom, and threatening her with a disciplinary infraction, the letter states..."

Ghislaine Maxwell claims jail guards seized her confidential documents

 

[RickshawFan]

Just in case we don't have enough documentation yet, here are citations from the NY Post. Actually, the full articles are worthy of a read if you get jollies from reading GM's ludicrous "complaints":

Guard stood 'knee to knee' with Ghislaine Maxwell in commode

Ghislaine Maxwell using sock to shield eyes from flashlights

 

[Inthedetails]

Excerpts from article describing new complaints from GM about her treatment:

"...Lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell are accusing guards at a federal detention center of improperly confiscating and reviewing her legal documents after she met with her lawyers at the facility over the weekend..."

"...Maxwell's lawyers said guards then "intimidated Ms. Maxwell" by standing "knee to knee" over her as she used the bathroom, and threatening her with a disciplinary infraction, the letter states..."

Ghislaine Maxwell claims jail guards seized her confidential documents

Hard way to find out that the adage is true:
"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

jmo

 

[JudgeJudi]

“Unlike any other occasion, the guard team leader stood knee to knee with Ms. Maxwell while Ms. Maxwell sat on the commode in the small area containing one toilet and a sink”.

She's talking sh** again.

 

[JudgeJudi]

She's just been denied bail again for the fourth time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-9519519/Epstein-partner-Ghislaine-Maxwell-denied-bail.html

 

[Kemug]

DBM

 

[Kemug]

“Unlike any other occasion, the guard team leader stood knee to knee with Ms. Maxwell while Ms. Maxwell sat on the commode in the small area containing one toilet and a sink”.

Nah, he's just teaching her how to flush.

 

[RickshawFan]

You'd think GM's attorneys would figure out that every time they make a complaint about jail conditions, a) the tabloids will snap it up and broadcast it far and wide; and (b) most everyone is thrilled with GM's come-uppance. I'm thinking most people in the universe would love to see the GMs of the world get thrown off their high horses, and going to the tabloids with this kind of frippery is like throwing red meat to a herd of slavering bloodhounds. Instead of generating empathy, this stuff attracts ridicule.

You've got to think GM believes she's on everyone's radar and she's the cat's meow! She thinks she's generating sympathy with all this?

 

[RickshawFan]

Nah, he's just teaching her how to flush.

It's gonna be really funny if the response from the DOC says exactly this... They wouldn't let her move 'til she flushed, because she has a history of being in trouble for not flushing the toilet.

 

[tayaway]

You'd think GM's attorneys would figure out that every time they make a complaint about jail conditions, a) the tabloids will snap it up and broadcast it far and wide; and (b) most everyone is thrilled with GM's come-uppance. I'm thinking most people in the universe would love to see the GMs of the world get thrown off their high horses, and going to the tabloids with this kind of frippery is like throwing red meat to a herd of slavering bloodhounds. Instead of generating empathy, this stuff attracts ridicule.

You've got to think GM believes she's on everyone's radar and she's the cat's meow! She thinks she's generating sympathy with all this?

GM's attorneys get paid to obey her, not question her. Do you want that fat pay cheque or no?

 

[RickshawFan]

GM's attorneys get paid to obey her, not question her. Do you want that fat pay cheque or no?

Can you imagine listening to this drivel for 5 hours a day?

 

[RickshawFan]

I read the Guardian online because it's free and has good coverage of American politics IMO. In the currrent flap over the Prime Minister's refurbishment of Number Eleven Downing Street, there are some delicious quotes that describe out-of-touchedness and how unsympathetic it is. It is the level of the world GM considers herself, though maybe not as crass.

The 'John Lewis nightmare' shows just how out of touch Boris Johnson is | Zoe Williams

A critical element in here, is the "John Lewis Nightmare", John Lewis being a VERY NICE shop, but not, methinks, snooty.

Here's a favorite paragraph or two that gets at attitudes of regular people to snooty people, very appropos IMO for a discussion about how GM drums up total lack of sympathy. Actually, she invites scorn.

The headline offence is snobbery: to the vast majority of Conservative voters, possibly just about all of them, John Lewis furniture represents something of a pinnacle. To homeowners, John Lewis is the idealised court portrait of the Ikea flat pack they actually bought; to renters, it is a world away from landlord-assembled tat. It makes Johnson and Symonds seem scornful, remote and painfully clueless about the lives of their compatriots.

This is particularly problematic in the light of the still-denied “let the bodies pile high in their thousands” remark. It’s all clicking together like Lego, another horribly common yet universally coveted thing Carrie probably can’t abide. A man who didn’t care whether people lived or died probably would end up with a woman who thought John Lewis – John Lewis! – was for little people. Furthermore, Johnson’s best counterattack strategy to all the recent sleaze allegations has been a version of “people don’t care about silly stories, they care about the vaccine rollout”. After this saga, it’s fair to say that he doesn’t have a clue what any of us care about.

Some of the shock at this snobbery is confected: many were probably already aware that Posh is a foreign country, and they do things differently there. They don’t even have department stores. Alan Clark’s famous (though contested) slur on Michael Heseltine’s breeding – “The trouble with Michael is that he had to buy his own furniture” – is the touchstone of the aristocratic interiors-worldview. Their furniture is all 300 years old, and it emphatically does not blend into their wallpaper. They never have any draught exclusion and their plumbing doesn’t work.

PS Boris Johnson is the Prime Minister, and Carrie Symonds his girlfriend.

 

[Luna20]

Curious as to what the legal defense is of no mug shot or any photos?

 

[Kemug]

I bet even GM wouldn't mind being let loose in John Lewis right now to buy some new clothes! How the mighty are fallen!

 

[Inthedetails]

Can you imagine listening to this drivel for 5 hours a day?

It would be the sound of money, tbh.

Billable hours.

jmo

 

[tayaway]

It would be the sound of money, tbh.

Billable hours.

jmo

MOO: Her lawyers silently repeat over and over the mantra, 'just think of the money,' when they're on her dime.

 

[RickshawFan]

I love the quote, "Posh is a foreign country..."

How did GM get her money, anyway? She had, what, $24M to put up for bail? She didn't inherit this money: her father was a bankrupt, crook, money launderer, Ponzi-schemer, pseudo-posh.... Her whole existence is smoke and mirrors.
Where did the money come from? Maybe we'll hear this at trial.
So, what effect would being in jail have on GM's money stream? Would DOC be tracking comings and goings from her accounts? Is more money pouring in while she sits there? Do they keep tabs on it?

 

[Inthedetails]

I love the quote, "Posh is a foreign country..."

How did GM get her money, anyway? She had, what, $24M to put up for bail? She didn't inherit this money: her father was a bankrupt, crook, money launderer, Ponzi-schemer, pseudo-posh.... Her whole existence is smoke and mirrors.
Where did the money come from? Maybe we'll hear this at trial.
So, what effect would being in jail have on GM's money stream? Would DOC be tracking comings and goings from her accounts? Is more money pouring in while she sits there? Do they keep tabs on it?

Million dollar question. Well, that question is worth more than a million.

Where'd the money come from?

jmo

 

[tayaway]

Was Robert Maxwell bankrupt or did he sock some of the stolen millions into offshore accounts? One theory is that he (along with Leslie Wexner, who, as noted in the NYT, gifted Epstein his NYC mansion) funded Epstein.

See this Sept, 2020 Forbes article for a breakdown of the theory.

Here's a relevant quote from this July, 2020 Times article:

The government further said it had information that, between 2007 and 2011, more than $20 million was transferred from offshore accounts associated with Jeffrey Epstein to several associated with [Ghislaine] Maxwell. Millions were later transferred back.

Jordan Waxman, managing partner of New York wealth management firm Nucleus Advisors, said $20 million seemed a low amount for someone using offshore accounts. It was possible that was just the tip of the iceberg, he said.

“I would venture to say 20 is probably what they found so far and that the net worth would be substantially more,” said Waxman. “The other thing is Jeffrey Epstein allegedly was worth $570-or-so million. What was she doing as his No. 2 and only with $20 million?”

 

[sds71]

No pics? Just sketches? Disappointed.MOO.

Ghislaine Maxwell is seen with a black eye and graying hair in first photo | Daily Mail Online

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.539612/gov.uscourts.nysd.539612.256.0.pdf