I am sorry I meant to say I dont believe Epstein gave his money to Epstein. I also dont think anything her father did to her ( she was a spoilt Princess to be honest) made her do what she did with Epstein.
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I am sorry I meant to say I dont believe Epstein gave his money to Epstein. I also dont think anything her father did to her ( she was a spoilt Princess to be honest) made her do what she did with Epstein.
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Even here in England....he likely would never have gotten out of prison for what he did...and I would say that would apply to most of Europe to be honest. Norway is just...different.
Even here in England....he likely would never have gotten out of prison for what he did...and I would say that would apply to most of Europe to be honest. Norway is just...different.
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Prison conditions in Norway: Anders Breivik: Just how cushy are Norwegian prisons?
Breivek's 21 year sentence (2011) can be extended as long as he is considered dangerous, but his life will not be intentionally miserable either. That's a cultural decision. Prisons in the USA have a different philosophy. Everyone who commits a criminal offence in a foreign country is responsible for understanding the consequences.
A man from the UK, Robert Leeming, murdered his girlfriend and 2 year old daughter in Canada two years ago. His trial started this week. He is facing a minimum of 10 years in prison (second degree murder for one victim) before being expelled from the country. Perhaps he will request a transfer to a UK prison after sentencing to be closer to his family. That seems like a reasonable and humane request, but that does not guarantee a transfer.
Epstein apparently decided that prison life in the USA was too much for him, so he committed suicide. Maxwell seems to be hoping for a better outcome - perhaps hoping that she can be transferred to a UK prison after sentencing.
Very interesting article.
I like the notions of rehabilitation and reintegration.
Prisoners must return to society one day and it seems those humane methods are working.
Positive approach means less hypothetical future victims.
Why must prisoners return to society one day? some crimes....are so bad...that the prisoner can never be released as in the recent SE case here...the Moors Murders etc. Personally i dont believe Breivik should ever be released. He doesnt believe in courts or the law so whats to say he wont do it again. Incidentally we have a soft prison system ( not as soft as Norway) and people have been released offended..gone back and come out etc and spend their life doing this. One such instance...a man was sent to prison several times for assault...came out the last time and killed my friends daughter and grand son..so how are those humane methods working? and in their case it certainly didnt mean less hypethetical victims
Please look at the statistics of recidivism in the article above:
20% for Norway
70% the USA
thats great
thats great but...like i said...my friends daughter and grand child were killed...stabbed to death by a reoffender....and there have been many such cases here..weirdly people like it in there. They have their friends..get meals and have somewhere to live. To them its home.
thats great but...like i said...my friends daughter and grand child were killed...stabbed to death by a reoffender....and there have been many such cases here..weirdly people like it in there. They have their friends..get meals and have somewhere to live. To them its home.
Im very sorry for your friend's loss
Murderers (like Breivik) must be absolutely isolated.
Lighter prisons where they work, cook etc are for criminals of petty crimes, people not so corrupted and evil, those who can be rehabilitated and able to return to society and hopefully not willing to ruin their lives by recidivism.
Im very sorry for your friend's loss
Murderers (like Breivik) must be absolutely isolated.
Lighter prisons where they work, cook etc are for criminals of petty crimes, people not so corrupted and evil, those who can be rehabilitated and able to return to society and hopefully not willing to ruin their lives by recidivism.
to be honest here i think that even those convicted of fairly serious crimes can work in the kitchens or have other jobs such as in the library etc
I think jobs are a good idea. Doing sth useful and earning a little money for a prison canteen (or whatever it is called) can only help inmates.
Idleness is tempting the devil.
Well, I dont mind being idle from time to time
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Brother: She can't be guilty b/c she's got family, she's a daughter, sister, aunt, friend,...
It is family - so, no surprise here. Who can defend you if not loyal family???
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Setting the stage for a long-anticipated sex trafficking trial next month, a federal judge on Thursday rejected Ghislaine Maxwell’s request for extraordinary secrecy surrounding jury selection.
“I am not going to permit attorney-conducted voir dire,” U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan said, opting for the usual judge-conducted questioning of jurors.
With trial slated to begin Nov. 29, Maxwell’s lawyers assert that the sex trafficking allegations may require soliciting sensitive information from the jurors. They asked that the proposed jury questionnaire and joint voir dire—the oral questioning of the jurors—be placed under seal.
Denying that request, Judge Nathan said that she would balance the need for juror privacy with the First Amendment right of access.
Federal Judge Rejects Ghislaine Maxwell's Request for Extraordinary Secrecy on Jury Selection as Sex Trafficking Trial Looms
“I am not going to permit attorney-conducted voir dire,” U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan said, opting for the usual judge-conducted questioning of jurors.
With trial slated to begin Nov. 29, Maxwell’s lawyers assert that the sex trafficking allegations may require soliciting sensitive information from the jurors. They asked that the proposed jury questionnaire and joint voir dire—the oral questioning of the jurors—be placed under seal.
Denying that request, Judge Nathan said that she would balance the need for juror privacy with the First Amendment right of access.
Federal Judge Rejects Ghislaine Maxwell's Request for Extraordinary Secrecy on Jury Selection as Sex Trafficking Trial Looms
Will the trial be televised as Derek Ch one?
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I don't believe federal courts televise trials, so unfortunately not.
Oh, it is federal. Right.
Judge denies Ghislaine Maxwell's request for private juror screening
A federal judge on Thursday denied requests from Ghislaine Maxwell, the accused accomplice of deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, to have prospective jurors for her criminal trial questioned privately -- outside the view of the public and the press -- and to keep a jury questionnaire under seal.
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The initial jury pool for the case is estimated to include about 600 people, who will fill out jury questionnaires in early November, Nathan said. She expects to reduce the pool to about 50 to 60 people before she questions each prospective juror in person. The final panel will consist of 12 jurors and six alternates.
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Jury selection is set to begin in Maxwell's case on Nov. 15, with the trial scheduled to open two weeks later.
A federal judge on Thursday denied requests from Ghislaine Maxwell, the accused accomplice of deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, to have prospective jurors for her criminal trial questioned privately -- outside the view of the public and the press -- and to keep a jury questionnaire under seal.
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The initial jury pool for the case is estimated to include about 600 people, who will fill out jury questionnaires in early November, Nathan said. She expects to reduce the pool to about 50 to 60 people before she questions each prospective juror in person. The final panel will consist of 12 jurors and six alternates.
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Jury selection is set to begin in Maxwell's case on Nov. 15, with the trial scheduled to open two weeks later.
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