Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 1

[amberdawn723]

Wow...that post about an airtight alibi...just wow....

 

[Jilllian]

http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman
“It sounded like she was developing an emotional attachment to somebody,” said a source who spoke to The Daily Star on the condition of anonymity.

This anonymity is concerning. And in keeping with this family's tendency to be quiet. The family member who wrote to me, seems to be afraid of GR, IMO.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but there is so something else going on here.

I'm wondering if that "on the condition of anonymity" clause is important to the family member you're speaking with, because they garnish info from GF's FB page, and would quickly be defriended by GF if he/she gave the reporter his/her name. This is what a close friend of the family is telling me. He/she is very concerned about not having access to GF's FB page if his/her identity were revealed.

 

[Londonrraine]

I'm wondering if that "on the condition of anonymity" clause is important to the family member you're speaking with, because they garnish info from GF's FB page, and would quickly be defriended by GF if he/she gave the reporter his/her name. This is what a close friend of the family is telling me. He/she is very concerned about not having access to GF's FB page if his/her identity were revealed.

This is very concerning.
The family member who contacted me said she/he unfriended GR because they couldn't stand reading his posts. This person also said that she/he is afraid of GR finding her, thus is afraid to come on thread here.
They also told me that this a very large family. I sense real fear among this family, not just a dislike for GR. Maybe fear is the reason for the silence. And if that's the case, what's this about?

 

[enzeder]

Wow...that post about an airtight alibi...just wow....

IMO that GR post was a P.R. disaster.

 

[MissieMt]

Random thoughts/theory(all imo and nothing but MY THOUGHTS/THEORY)

I think GR's post about the lady in the store is a fable he concocted in order to let people know in a round about way that if they question his role in JR's disappearance he just might try to find out where they live...if ya know what I mean. Older women don't call killers out in the grocery store, and other men don't give "high fives" to complete strangers in the grocery store.

Someone was wondering why the psychic was not creeped out by him. Although I don't know her or her intentions I couldn't help but notice posts on her page about having a prepaid cell with very few minutes and how she really enjoyed having that. Gives me the impression that maybe money is a little tight....That's all I'm gonna say about that.

As far as JR just having enough of their relationship and taking off....it's absurd. She is mother to 3 kids, his income is what pays the bills. Women who are fed up rarely take off and abandon their children. They file for a divorce and seek alimony/child support or they stick it out because they feel they can't make it without the bread winner. Maybe not all women in that situation do that, but it's a whole lot more than the women who decide to take off.
But a man who thinks very (VERY) highly of himself and thinks his wife may be leaving him and may be seeking child support/alimony etc. etc. just might take that as a personal insult. Men with narcissistic traits tend to be quick to anger and also quick to blame others (It's her fault she's missing)
Again, all just IMO

 

[fringles]

I also think of course it would be an 'older woman' in the store (an armchair detective perhaps?) and a man who sided with him. If I wanted to read far too much into it I'd say that was quite telling.

 

[Jilllian]

Perfectly said, Missie.
And I think you nailed each point right square on the head.

Jennifer's husband being high-fived by a stranger in his 60's while in the store?
I don't think so. And as enzeder stated, that post was a complete PR disaster.

As an aside, I wonder how his alibi is "air tight," if he was the last one to see her, in their home, prior to her leaving "to go shopping?" Unless there are security cameras in and outside of the home, then perhaps. But I doubt they exist.

His psychic said (via email on the JR-Help Find Her FB page to my co-admin) that GF was seen by a state trooper friend in a sauna that afternoon. No mention about the morning.

Afternoon sauna relaxation with a cop? How staged...and not very well, in my opinion.

She also said something to the effect of us not knowing what their marriage was like, us not having any idea of the things he's discovered since her disappearance, and that their marriage was over. She said that we have no idea what was going on within their marriage the year prior to her disappearance.

So, which is it? GF finds evidence of infidelity or whatever angers him PRIOR to her disappearance or AFTER her disappearance? My guess is both.

The fact that their marriage was allegedly "over" lends credence to the belief that 1) She could take him for at least half of what he's worth property-wise given the fact that she raised their 3 children while he was commercially employed, and they were married for many years, 2) He would have to pay child support, which in NYS is almost a third of his income, 3) He would likely have to pay alimony, 4) She would likely be eligible for part of his pension, etc. etc...and 5) A break-up would have been an extreme blow to a narcissist's already low self-esteem, as well as trigger a very extreme reaction. JMO

 

[MissieMt]

Ah yes, Jillian, I forgot to touch on the "air tight alibi" bit. I'm pretty sure that if he had an airtight alibi LE would probably say he has been cleared, have they said that? I can be pretty forgetful. I need to go back and read who was the last person (besides him) that saw JR.

 

[Jilllian]

I also think of course it would be an 'older woman' in the store (an armchair detective perhaps?) and a man who sided with him. If I wanted to read far too much into it I'd say that was quite telling.

Surprised the guy in the store (an alleged stranger in his 60's) didn't fist-bump him...or chest bump him...or smack him on the butt and say "Good play! or "Atta Boy!" the way this story read...Seriously, at least be creative.

:notgood:

 

[enzeder]

Surprised the guy in the store (an alleged stranger in his 60's) didn't fist-bump him...or chest bump him...or smack him on the butt and say "Good play! or "Atta Boy!" the way this story read...Seriously, at least be creative.

:notgood:

That story about the encounter with the older lady and the man in his sixties in the store is a complete and utter farce IMO.

 

[Jilllian]

Ah yes, Jillian, I forgot to touch on the "air tight alibi" bit. I'm pretty sure that if he had an airtight alibi LE would probably say he has been cleared, have they said that? I can be pretty forgetful. I need to go back and read who was the last person (besides him) that saw JR.

Newspapers reported that he was cooperative, hasn't asked for an attorney, and has taken a polygraph. Results of the polygraph haven't been made public. http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

A small part of me is beginning to believe that perhaps the marriage was crashing or already irretrievable broken, she met someone else (online) for some sort of rendevous, and met with foul play. And, that she was getting ready to leave him. I definitely don't believe she left her children willingly (long term, I mean), either way.

 

[amberdawn723]

I thought earlier someone on here said posts were being deleted on some kind of rescue facebook page....and now I just was looking through the Jennifer L. Ramsara - Missing Person facebook page and see that people have asked the admin what is going on with Jennifer's actual facebook page. Apparently posts and photos on her personal page have been deleted.........We can't see them anyways since they are private, but makes me wonder what the motivation is.
The person deleting the items must be someone who knows her password or has access to a computer that has her password saved to it. Surely she isn't doing it herself if she is really just voluntarily missing.....JMO.

 

[enzeder]

Newspapers reported that he was cooperative, hasn't asked for an attorney, and has taken a polygraph. Results of the polygraph haven't been made public. http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1423436202/Officials-seek-leads-on-missing-area-woman

A small part of me is beginning to believe that perhaps the marriage was crashing or already irretrievable broken, she met someone else (online) for some sort of rendevous, and met with foul play. And, that she was getting ready to leave him. I definitely don't believe she left her children willingly (long term, I mean), either way.

BBM ^ GR strikes me as the type who would be shouting it from the rooftops if he had passed the polygraph. IMO

 

[amberdawn723]

I'm thinking she met with foul play and is not voluntarily missing. GR has a lot to lose with a divorce......much easier to get rid of the problem than lose so much to her. JMO

 

[EGirl]

Hey did the post on the psychics page just disappear? I don't even see him in her friends list anymore.

Am I missing it??

 

[enzeder]

Hey did the post on the psychics page just disappear? I don't even see him in her friends list anymore.

Am I missing it??

I just noticed that. Set to private now by the looks of things.

ETA - He's still on her friends list.

 

[fringles]

I also think its possible that she went to meet someone and met with foul play, but if she did, then presumably there will be evidence on the phone, or one of the computers, of her arranging the meeting...

 

[amberdawn723]

Yep KF is set to private now....I guess they are watching this page probably. Oh well....It's not like the comments on her page were the only thing making some of us suspicious.

 

[Jilllian]

I just noticed that. Set to private now by the looks of things.

ETA - He's still on her friends list.

Yes, it's set to private now. Wish I could say I didn't see that one coming.
I took screenshots of all comments and threads between her and GF for heck's sake, just in case...

 

[enzeder]

Yes, it's set to private now. Wish I could say I didn't see that one coming.
I took screenshots of all comments and threads between her and GF for heck's sake, just in case...

Screenshots are always good for backup. I took one of the bikini comments.

ETA - I also took a screenshot of the post with the tale about the encounter in the store.