Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - #14

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Been reading back through the last thread and I guess it's time I said something. I was a mistress for years. Didn't know his wife. I was single. But I was an easy mark for someone who was charming and caring and he did that so well. I went from being physically assaulted to the most precious thing in someone's life. He called me two or three times a day whereever he was in the world, and would drive two hours just for a five minute hug. He promised me that he would leave, but only once the kids were out of school and I was so dumb I believed him. I thought I was doing the right thing in waiting - and believe me, I felt no guilt. His friends accepted us and often told me how much happier he was with me. Of course after a while that started to slip, and he became very self centred. He wasn't interested in my day and would subtly undermine my achievements. He was prone to black moods and rash actions. I got up the courage to end the relationship and he played a blinder; sad texts, crying phone calls, being so *understanding* of how patient I'd been and all the rest of it for months until I gave in. I did still love him, or thought I did, and again he became incredibly loving. It was only after he slipped back to type and I happened to read an article about psychopaths that I realised what was happening. And that I didn't love him - I was scared of him, scared of what he could do, and angry at myself too. And somehow it all got mixed up until I didn't really understand my feelings at all.

So I have some understanding of ES' position, and some sympathies. And I know exactly what she means by: "And if able to finish my answer, I would have told them that regrettably I used those words 'I love you' to find the truth in so many lies." It's all you have to hold onto, it's what makes things make sense. I don't know if GR loved ES, he may have thought he did, but people like him use it as a weapon and a means to possession. I understand ES still being scared, as JS has said on J4J she is, because when you realise someone has managed to get such a hold over you without you knowing it - more than once in her case and mine - it is terrifying.

I also understand the self-righteous "some friend she was" approach and have indulged in it myself. But ES is a victim of GR too. Not to the same level, but reading how they "always" had sex, how he talked to other women about threesomes, how he changed her mailing address, she was a victim too. Perhaps she was more easily "controlled" than Jenn was/had become. Parading her like he did in front of the Renz family - he was making sure that ES never had anywhere to go except him.

As for my ex, he's still with his wife. I don't know if she knows, but I know he's had multiple other affairs. If it wasn't me, it would have been someone else. If it hadn't been ES, it would have been someone else. GR is the demon here, never lose sight of that.

Solus, I think you're amazing and I respect you more than I could ever convey adequately in words. Thank you.
 
  • #82
Wonder if the day he tried 131 times was once ES was no longer responding to his calls and/or when ES stopped calling him.
 
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Julianne Peixoto ‏@julespeixoto 2m

Powell says Remy didn't know their conversation was being recorded. Powell says "I never tell anybody I'm recording" #RamsaranTrial
 
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He seems to have an obsessive personality, coupled with a need for attention. Perhaps, he felt that when Jen was absorbed in her game, she wasn't giving him her full attention. After all, even when his love waned, he still called or texted her frequently throughout the day -- perhaps checking up on her? Or perhaps just wanting her attention. Even though he also had ES's

I would say that he seems to need to define himself through sex, judging by ES' testimony. If Jenn wasn't giving him enough (and that doesn't mean she wasn't giving him any) and he felt that she would rather play online than service him, it would certainly fuel his anger.
 
  • #86
Someone I knew had an affair with a married man for 19 years. They were like a staid, married couple. He was going to leave his wife when the kids were:
Out of young childhood
Out of high school
Out of University
Married and settled down.

In the end, she dumped him for a handsome young man half her age, married and had a lovely baby of her own. Married lover was OUTRAGED at her wicked betrayal. :)
 
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Ashley Babbitt ‏@evesunashley 26s

"He never gave me a hard time any of the times I spoke with him," said Det. Powell about Ramsaran. #RamsaranTrial
 
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I was thinking, Remy's clothes were presented as evidence. So that was the sweatshirt with Jennifer's blood on it? It seems incredibly stupid to me, that he didn't even try to get rid of his clothes. Even the dumbest criminals know about DNA now.

I would like to know where on his shirt the blood evidence was found. If GR is guilty, he would have seen any blood on Jennifer when he moved her body, and avoided getting it on himself. Maybe worn gloves?Makes me think he did not realize her blood had leaked in the car, and he got a smear on his sleeve or something, when pulling her out of the vehicle.

I cannot imagine treating the deceased body of the mother of your children, like that. :(
 
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Matt White @evesunmatt · 2m

Ramsaran volunteered to show Det. Powell his home, gave him clothing articles. - No warrant needed #RamsaranTrial



BC he thought he could outsmart LE. Didn't hire an attorney either.

Head games. He was good
 
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So. Our tweeting journalists tweeted same thing at same time, so now I think they've all stopped, thinking the other one will be tweeting that information?
 
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Matt White @evesunmatt · 2m

Ramsaran volunteered to show Det. Powell his home, gave him clothing articles. - No warrant needed #RamsaranTrial



BC he thought he could outsmart LE. Didn't hire an attorney either.

Head games. He was good

With some people. But he's ended up on trial for murder, so that didn't work out too well.....
 
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I wonder when GR was asked for his clothes? Straight away, or a couple of days after, when they would probably all have been laundered by then, if only he'd still had a wife like Jennifer to do it for him.
 
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Julianne Peixoto ‏@julespeixoto 44s

Powell says when Remy was in jail he attempted to contact Sayles via phone calls 2,483 times #RamsaranTrial



Glad I was braced

Egads!!! Let's see...he's been in jail about 15 months...so if he's still be trying to call her in last few months, that averages out to about 6 calls a day!! I suppose not all of them went through...but still, that's a lot of calls from jail...I didn't even know a prisoner was allowed to make that many calls.
 
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Matt White (@evesunmatt) tweeted at 7:35pm - 9 Sep 14:

Powell: Defendant called called former mistress from CCSO 2,483 times. 131 attempts one day at one point. #RamsaranTrial (https://twitter.com/evesunmatt/status/Matt White (@evesunmatt) tweeted at 7:32pm - 9 Sep 14:

Sure would like to know what day it was he called her 131 times, and what was going down then
 
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Ashley Babbitt ‏@evesunashley 2m

Recess. Powell not done, but calling a doc first because he came from out of town. Garcia says he has lots more for Powell. #RamsaranTrial
 
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interesting how he put so much effort into finding jen's phone, but did zero/zilch/nada to actually find HER!

He wanted the phone back
 
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Ashley, Ed of Evening Sun, tweeted that she got a paper cut earlier, and needed a band aid. Just realized I've spent past 20 mins worrying about how I can pass along message that she needs one.

Sometimes I surprise myself with the things I worry about. Will probably wake in middle of the night with a great idea for getting a band aid rushed to CCSO. All the way from Germany.
 
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