Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 9

[Sharoneonta]

Interesting post here about possible new living arrangements. Anyone know anything about this? First comment:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=520600704653306&id=485680108145366

There are no words. Could they really be that stupid?!:what:

 

[yupikgirl]

There are no words. Could they really be that stupid?!:what:

F*^%# yea there are no words if this is true :furious:


Edited to add...excuse my language damn straight, darn tootin', ? ..not sure either of those are better, but that's all I've got LOL

 

[BearAngel]

Bear question of the night: Do we know if there was any alcohol, recreational drug use, performance enhancing drugs or natural remedies being used by anyone in the household? Do we know of any possible addictions, such as gambling or sport betting? Lottery tickets probably do not fall into the category...insiders????

Yes, I am quoting myself lol... To clarify

On a more serious note: We know GR at least had one drink:rocker:...to quote a graphic that I can no longer link to, due to page shutdown by GR...
"Alcohol...because no good story ever started with a salad" I thought the question was relevant after the"tryst" confession

As for Jennifer..in her own words..she describes her meds and conditions here-yes, I know it was posed before, this is the victim is posting
https://www.facebook.com/Autoimmuni...omment_id=24850375&offset=0&total_comments=11

ETA- Red flag thought...could JR have been ingesting something prior to her medical issues???...please read both if her comments..ie: Funny thing is, I wasn't on anything when all this started.

Being a gamer myself, I believe that there may have been some online gaming of of many varieties...but that is MOO :twocents:

Due to their athletic abilities, and both Gr and JR with recent weight loss...the possibility of using products to enhance is certainly a valid question.:moo:

My query is just to cover all topics that may or may not have a place in the loss of our beautiful, young mother.

 

[zwiebel]

He did that quite early on, so guess he knew she was deceased?:facepalm:

Looking back at the old posts and found this:

Originally Posted by LolaAngelina
Lavanda, can you tell us who had access to Jennifer's fb? I'm assuming yourself and her husband? I know people will usually share passwords but seems like there would be a privacy breach there?
Well done for organising the event and doing the video as well. You are certainly getting a lot done to get Jennifer's name and face out there.

Lavanda Dolce:
I am "friend-ed" on JR's (now private) FB page, however I do not have password nor access. There is no need for what I do in my work to have access anyhow. Nothing that we do would require me needing to go to her page through password access. Any private messages she may have had is available only to husband and law enforcement. Naturally as you know law enforcement has access to everything and GR is the only one that has the password access to her page.

The reason I had asked this was because it was very clear from previous posts that LD had in fact accessed it herself:

Lavanda Dolce:
We had to shut down her page as people on Facebook were taking her photographs without permission and many of the children on her page.

Originally Posted by Jilllian
I wonder how this benefits him and how it will be justified publicly?

My guess is "took photo of kids down," or something like that.

Or, "to protect JR's privacy"...

If JR wanted it set to private, she would have done that herself.

Makes me wonder what JR would want NOW.

Lavanda Dolce:
She would want her children to be comfortable. Read my recent posts about why I had her page converted to private.

Curiouser and curiouser. As I say, I don't use fb, but I do know all these service providers have terms and regulations you agree to abide by, when you use their services. I wonder exactly what they are?

fb has a legal duty to protect its clients privacy and security I believe, which is why they rarely make any exceptions, because if they knowingly allowed someone's privacy and security to be breached, they could be held responsible.

I strongly suspect fb did not know someone else has been using a deceased person's fb page. But hopefully they will find out soon, and will be able to put their protocols in place for it. I suspect the first family member past the post in this case, will have their wishes for what they want to happen to it granted.

ETA I also wonder what happens when a user breaks those terms of service?

 

[voominvava]

Can anyone point me to the post where it was verified that GR failed a polygraph test?


TIA

I'd like to know, too. :seeya:

I remembered CC as LD on here, hinting that GR had passed. Took me a while, but here is a link.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8874790&postcount=948

what about a passed lie detector test?
what about "other info not divulged" ?
would that change your obvious?
(Remember... I cannot release info, nobody is told about lie detector results, so let's look at that as a "hypothetical")

 

[LolaAngelina]

I'd like to know, too. :seeya:

I remembered CC as LD on here, hinting that GR had passed. Took me a while, but here is a link.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8874790&postcount=948

You need to keep reading. She wasn't hinting at all.
She was asked so he did pass? The answer was oh this is just hypothetical.
I can see how you thought that though, her posts can be very confusing and convoluted

 

[momrids6]

"With all this said...I now want it to be known that I am done responding to the "community searches (questions) by nonprofessionals." (regular citizens) as it pertains to a potential victim of homicide"


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BBM

 

[enzeder]

Has this been posted here?

Help Find Jennifer Ramsaran
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=519444204768956&id=485680108145366

 

[yupikgirl]

Has this been posted here?

Help Find Jennifer Ramsaran
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=519444204768956&id=485680108145366

I don't know if it has..I know I didn't post it at the time and I post a lot of Facebook chatter :blushing:.

I always want to talk about what's posted so I have to contain myself so I don't get my stuff deleted :floorlaugh:

 

[zwiebel]

There are two links in the last two comments there, but it's probably best not to post them here, as they're in comments. People will spot them though.

 

[thefox]

If a post about the polygraph HAS been deleted there was probably a reason for that. :twocents:

I didn't get the impression it was "confirmed" he failed.
I got the impression it was an assumption he failed, since he hasn't bragged about passing?

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, or Jillian made an earlier post that clarified it?

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He failed as the truth always comes out.

 

[enzeder]

NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 *media maps & timelines*

NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 *media maps & timelines* - Page 2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[zwiebel]

I noticed someone upthread posted about 'you' don't know how it feels to have a loved one missing or murdered.

As it says you and I was reading, I am presuming it was addressed to me as well as others. So, politely, I have to point out;

Yes I do.

I know what it feels like when that person is finally dug up too, and it turns out her husband murdered her.

 

[LolaAngelina]

F*^%# yea there are no words if this is true :furious:


Edited to add...excuse my language damn straight, darn tootin', ? ..not sure either of those are better, but that's all I've got LOL

:silly:

 

[enzeder]

I thought that I was posting those images on the *media maps & timelines* thread. I'll remove them and post again on the correct thread :sigh:

 

[zwiebel]

Oh, I quite appreciated those maps being bumped!

 

[sleepinoz]

I noticed someone upthread posted about 'you' don't know how it feels to have a loved one missing or murdered.

As it says you and I was reading, I am presuming it was addressed to me as well as others. So, politely, I have to point out;

Yes I do.

I know what it feels like when that person is finally dug up too, and it turns out her husband murdered her.

Zwiebel - I'm sorry for your loss. I can't find the post you speak of, but I don't think anyone was directing it at you.

 

[enzeder]

Oh, I quite appreciated those maps being bumped!

I already deleted them - sorry zwiebel. I just did those screen shots/images (Google Earth) showing the location where JR was found. Anyway, they are posted at link below now

NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 *media maps & timelines* - Page 2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[zwiebel]

Zwiebel - I'm sorry for your loss. I can't find the post you speak of, but I don't think anyone was directing it at you.

I won't bump it as they don't seem to post here anymore anyway......

I just felt it was worth pointing out that there seem to be many people on WS who have suffered losses in so many ways, so it's unwise to make presumptions.

I don't hate much, but I really hate murderers. Not just for the damage they inflict on one person, but the damage they create all around, and down the generations.

 

[Caring4Many]

she used a "wash". to me that sounds like something that washes out any hair coloring that was put in?? and her hair was not found for several days because he doesn't use her bathroom very often. he did not notice the haircut.

Robinsj2-
I haven't heard that it was a wash prior to this. Do you have the link for this info? I recall CC/LD saying something about him not noticing, but was stating there are certain things you'd think/hope he would notice & these are things that could have been helpful. On top of all if of this-f it was a wash to pull out her color from the previous visit-why would that even render mentioning? Then her hair would be the same color it is normally? You know what I mean-again it's odd.

How's becoming a verified insider going?