Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 9

[Amster]

Why is it the job of LE to inform the media about Jennifer being a Sunday School teacher? Doesn't she have family who can do these media things? GR managed to get himself a PR person. Has the media refused to talk to her family? Sorry....against my better judgement, I replied. Sorry for butting in.

 

[SouthAussie]

Why is it the job of LE to inform the media about Jennifer being a Sunday School teacher? Doesn't she have family who can do these media things? GR managed to get himself a PR person. Has the media refused to talk to her family? Sorry....against my better judgement, I replied. Sorry for butting in.

Would have been far more helpful if GR's PR person had supplied a well-rounded description of Jen as a person .. they certainly did not promote GR at all by failing to do so ... and that failure certainly didn't help Jen ... IMO

 

[Jilllian]

Why is it the job of LE to inform the media about Jennifer being a Sunday School teacher? Doesn't she have family who can do these media things? GR managed to get himself a PR person. Has the media refused to talk to her family? Sorry....against my better judgement, I replied. Sorry for butting in.

Not saying it's their job, but if they saw fit to inform people of negative things, why not throw in a few positives for good measure?

Her family is quiet, and for good reason.

 

[robinsj2]

I think you're missing my points-1-from the photos I've seen -Jen hasn't had bangs in years-that's a difference even a husband that isn't as attentive would have noticed. Going from no hair on your forehead to bangs covering it is completely different. 2- while her actual hair color may not be noticed-THE BOX would have most likely been in the trash with the clippings-what color was it that she purchased? That alone helps-saying it was one vs red vs brown could help.

she used a "wash". to me that sounds like something that washes out any hair coloring that was put in?? and her hair was not found for several days because he doesn't use her bathroom very often. he did not notice the haircut.

 

[Sharoneonta]

BBM
I took this piece to mean that up until then- he had refused to do the interviews....never caught that before.

I don't get it...

 

[SouthAussie]

she used a "wash". to me that sounds like something that washes out any hair coloring that was put in?? and her hair was not found for several days because he doesn't use her bathroom very often. he did not notice the haircut.

Thanks robinsj2 ... but I find it odd that he didn't check her bathroom for a few days. Wouldn't he want to see if Jen's makeup/toiletries were still there, if there was a thought that she might have run off or 'gone missing' as reported to the police on Dec 11th?

 

[robinsj2]

http://www.wbng.com/home/Husband-Speaks-Out-on-Missing-Wife-188917661.html

this is from 01/29.
watching it again after time has passed makes it look even more sketchy.
body language and affect changes instantly when talking about those who support him, to those who don't. reminds me of those "clap on/clap off!" commercials.

note at the beginning of the video, the reporter said that "in the two months since his wife's disappearance, Ganesh Ramsaran had not agreed to an interview until now."

what i noticed this time that i hadn't last time, is that the reporter says at the very end, something like "Ganesh Ramsaran has offered to take a DNA and lie detector test IF it would help with the investigation."

this was dated 01/29/13.

pretty sure he had already taken a poly and failed prior to this date. if he had passed, would he not (still even now) be shouting it very loudly for all to hear, in an attempt to clear his name? he's been pretty vocal about his "air tight" alibis, so why not the results of the poly?

:jail:

BBM, this is true

 

[robinsj2]

Thanks robinsj2 ... but I find it odd that he didn't check her bathroom for a few days. Wouldn't he want to see if Jen's makeup/toiletries were still there, if there was a thought that she might have run off or 'gone missing' as reported to the police on Dec 11th?

i find it odd as well, but that is what he says...

 

[Ace85FL]

ace, i think your maps awesome. but, would it not be a normale proceduer to check all adjecent rds, to the phone and van sites?, considerining the cercumstances?
at best they should have been looking for a , lost and cunfused person wondering the woods .

Under normal circumstances, you would think so. Especially at that time immediately after the 16th when the van was found at Plank Road Manor.

They didn't bring in dogs from Madison or Oneida to search along Canasawacta Creek. The State Police or the Forest Service wasn't contacted to conduct a possible search in that immediate Moon Hill/Pigeon Hill/Reservoir Hill vicinity.

I believe that the LE was under the impression that she had run away, and read the ditched van and the ditched phone as indications of that, due in part to LE's missing persons report stating that she may have changed her appearance, which was courtesy of GR.

 

[Abigail]

Sorry, stupid I know, but please help out a Brit. Bangs are a fringe, right? The short bit of hair on a person's forehead?

Yes, that's right. Bangs are what the Brit's call a fringe.

And...um....I still have them....

 

[dansmom]

she used a "wash". to me that sounds like something that washes out any hair coloring that was put in?? and her hair was not found for several days because he doesn't use her bathroom very often. he did not notice the haircut.

OK, help me understand: Your wife is missing, you are so concerned you call the popo right away BUT you don't look in her bathroom for several days? That's nonsense. Wouldn't you look everywhere for clues to where she was? What a bunch of malarkey.
So, the hair color could have been planted before the cops came to search. I have always thought the hair thing was a distraction to minimize any thought of foul play and reinforce the idea she left. Is there any truth that there even was hair clippings and color? Or was it what the PR person said?

 

[SouthAussie]

i find it odd as well, but that is what he says...

Thanks .. I'll add this to my long list of Things That GR Has Said That Are Improbable or Hard To Believe .... (IMO)

 

[Jilllian]

Thanks .. I'll add this to my long list of Things That GR Has Said That Are Improbable or Hard To Believe .... (IMO)

that should be a great read, and a long night.

:read:

 

[Bettylou4you]

Why is it the job of LE to inform the media about Jennifer being a Sunday School teacher? Doesn't she have family who can do these media things? GR managed to get himself a PR person. Has the media refused to talk to her family? Sorry....against my better judgement, I replied. Sorry for butting in.

I agree. Instead we got a yarn spun of slander. Why is the big question.

 

[Abigail]

Got to be the guinea pig and my other friend is now traumatized forever....I could not get her lifted in...and I lift horse feed...:facepalm:....but yes...it is possible...but not real comfy...this van has the side door too...and from the passenger side....more room...but from driver's side...not so much...we tried it is very little clothing...with a blanket and with an vinyl tablecloth....much extra material made it almost too bulky...

Agree with you, but the areas up for search by those working on this have many seasonal roads....which were bare or muddy on the day, or on several days (after the snow) following when JR disappeared....so did not search today...we have a list of items that might have possibly been left at scene(s)...good thought!!

Thank you:blushing:...It seemed silly to some of my friends, but gave me a whole different perspective of what may have happened...with that being said....here is to hoping for an imminent arrest upon return of the lab reports...:jail:
EVERYONE who has been helping is incredible, dedicated and and so inspiring to me...:rocker: :tyou:

OK, it seems to me that the hardest part (considering one scenario) would have been getting her body out of the house and into the van -- that's where the heavy lifting would have come into play.

IF she were placed on the floor of the van, right where the sliding door opens, then all that needed doing when arriving at Center Road would be to pull over, and sort of roll her body out of the van and then down the embankment.

But getting her INTO the van would have taken a lot of effort. GR isn't a big guy -- appears to be just an inch or so taller than Jenn, but he is a body builder, and so he would have good upper body strength. Did he need an accomplice to get the body into the van???

It does occur to me that experimenting with a live person would be a bit different than with a dead one -- with your live volunteer, you would be concerned about bumping her head and such, but someone who has already committed an act of murder would be unlikely to show any respect to the body.

And I wonder...if that blood stain didn't occur from post-mortem bleeding -- perhaps caused by dragging her feet first out of the house, and then sort of hauling her into the van?? Anyone know anything about port-mortem wounds -- like how long after death would one bleed?

 

[momrids6]

But getting her INTO the van would have taken a lot of effort. GR isn't a big guy -- appears to be just an inch or so taller than Jenn, but he is a body builder, and so he would have good upper body strength. Did he need an accomplice to get the body into the van???

RSBM:

Many amateur bodybuilders actually have little "functional strength"....

 

[momrids6]

I love this picture of Jen...It gives such insight to personality ....(click on pic to enlarge)

 

[SouthAussie]

I love this picture of Jen...

Thanks .. I saw that on youtube ...I noticed at 3:26 the name on GRs jacket

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=htt...yer_embedded&v=EO6mKP7Sl2E#t=203s&h=6AQEMyoef

 

[Jilllian]

I love this picture of Jen...It gives such insight to personality ....

Wow. Beautiful pic of Jen, but "Psycho" on GR's jacket?

:what:

 

[momrids6]

Wow. Beautiful pic of Jen, but "Psycho" on GR's jacket?

:what:

I did say "gives such insight"....:seeya: