NY NY - JuanJuan Zwang, 44 & Peishuan Fan, 48, couple from Old Brookville, mysterious disappearance, no contact with children since 30 Mar 2025

  • #61
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John Carman, (the attorney representing the family), said on the 15th that the Fan family's 20-year-old eldest son Yiwei Fan and his 12-year-old brother had recently left the United States and returned to China.

Carmen revealed that Fan Peixuan had run a business near Shanghai before immigrating to the US and had been detained by Chinese authorities for nearly two months.
Not clear whether the case was a civil or criminal case.

The Fan family purchased the approximately 6,000-square-foot single-family mansion for 3.8 million yuan in cash at the end of 2023. The two children have been living alone there since their parents disappeared, with occasional visits from relatives and friends and relying on delivery for meals.

The 12-year-old brother just graduated from Glen Head Elementary School a few days ago, Carmen said it is not yet certain whether the brothers' return to China this time is a permanent departure.

Property records show that only the eldest son Fan Yiwei and his mother Zhuang Juanjuan are listed on the deed of the house, and Fan Peixuan is not listed
what? They purchased a massive house in cash in yuan instead of dollars?
 
  • #62
what? They purchased a massive house in cash in yuan instead of dollars?
It’s an article that was originally written in Chinese, so the value was converted to yuan to be more easily understood by the target audience.
 
  • #63
I’m usually advocating for the most mundane explanation in every case, but this is spies right? It feels like it has to be a spy thing and they repatriated under assumed names, and the kids joined them afterwards.
 
  • #64
It’s an article that was originally written in Chinese, so the value was converted to yuan to be more easily understood by the target audience.
That makes more sense, but still why would they pay all that in cash?
 
  • #65
I’m usually advocating for the most mundane explanation in every case, but this is spies right? It feels like it has to be a spy thing and they repatriated under assumed names, and the kids joined them afterwards.
I think you may be correct. I wasn’t sure until the sons went back, once they did that kind of sealed the deal for me.
 
  • #66
I’m usually advocating for the most mundane explanation in every case, but this is spies right? It feels like it has to be a spy thing and they repatriated under assumed names, and the kids joined them afterwards.
You really peaked my interest!

On March 31,2025 there is one nonstop flight to China specifically Beijing from JFK. It leaves at 2:15am….. I mean if I was a spy I’d fly nonstop for sure… it’s convenient how the times fit. You may be on to something
 
  • #67
It’s weird that if this is a case of espionage, that they haven’t just popped up to be like, hey, we’re here, just a long vacation, thanks! Instead it’s become a much bigger thing. Unless there is a lot more happening behind the scenes and they physically can’t be paraded around publicly.
 
  • #68
That makes more sense, but still why would they pay all that in cash?
I’m not sure what you’re asking. If you buy a house in cash, it just means you didn’t take out a mortgage to buy it. You would wire the money, not purchase it with literal piles of cash. If I’m misunderstanding your question, please let me know!
 
  • #69
Flight schedule

New York, NY (all airports) to Beijing, China (all airports) · Nonstop flights · 16h 35m

Air China 982
2:05 am – 6:40 am⁺¹
JFK – PEK·Every Sun–Tue, Thu, Fri
Valid until Nov 01

Search on Google Flights



Just want to share my link as to where I found this. March 30th was a Sunday. Again not saying this is what happened. But @bluestsocks posts got me thinking. Then I found this flight, and it takes about 35 minutes to get from their house to JFK at around 10:00 at night. That gets them to JFK at or around 11:00 (I'm giving 10 minute grace period, and I like round numbers). They arrive at the airport 3 hours and 5 minutes before AirChina Flight 982 departs JFK, standard time to arrive before an international flight: 3 Hours.

I usually always apply the if it has hooves it's horses, but guys I think this may be Zebras.
 
  • #70
You really peaked my interest!

On March 31,2025 there is one nonstop flight to China specifically Beijing from JFK. It leaves at 2:15am….. I mean if I was a spy I’d fly nonstop for sure… it’s convenient how the times fit. You may be on to something
I hate to quote myself but I want to clear up a discrepancy. The plane now leaves at 2:05, in March it left at 2:15, there was a 10 minute change sometime between March 30th and today.
 
  • #71
Flight schedule

New York, NY (all airports) to Beijing, China (all airports) · Nonstop flights · 16h 35m

Air China 982
2:05 am – 6:40 am⁺¹
JFK – PEK·Every Sun–Tue, Thu, Fri
Valid until Nov 01

Search on Google Flights



Just want to share my link as to where I found this. March 30th was a Sunday. Again not saying this is what happened. But @bluestsocks posts got me thinking. Then I found this flight, and it takes about 35 minutes to get from their house to JFK at around 10:00 at night. That gets them to JFK at or around 11:00 (I'm giving 10 minute grace period, and I like round numbers). They arrive at the airport 3 hours and 5 minutes before AirChina Flight 982 departs JFK, standard time to arrive before an international flight: 3 Hours.

I usually always apply the if it has hooves it's horses, but guys I think this may be Zebras.
Is it a zorse maybe (super cool animals actually) - a little of both? Info gatherers that ran, made sure their kids were safe etc but not full blown zebra status since kids didn’t go into hiding either as far as we are aware
 
  • #72
Is it a zorse maybe (super cool animals actually) - a little of both? Info gatherers that ran, made sure their kids were safe etc but not full blown zebra status since kids didn’t go into hiding either as far as we are aware

Wow, what a great analogy. Just a note though, the kids did go back to China, and are currently in China.
 
  • #73
Wow, what a great analogy. Just a note though, the kids did go back to China, and are currently in China.
That’s what exactly I mean though. I’d expect - though transparency I know little about this topic. - that if they were full blown they would have hidden the kids also not made know now that they went back to china
 
  • #74
That’s what exactly I mean though. I’d expect - though transparency I know little about this topic. - that if they were full blown they would have hidden the kids also not made know now that they went back to china

Ok, feel free to answer but don't feel obligated.
Would it make sense for the parents to go first on "other" passports and then the kids later on their real passports so in the future the kids can come back to America? I'm intrigued to learn anything you are willing to share about this process. I see your job listed so you are obviously very familiar!

And yes I kind of am implying their are multiple passports for the parents based on the article, which may or may not be a typo or translation issue.
 
  • #75
Ok, feel free to answer but don't feel obligated.
Would it make sense for the parents to go first on "other" passports and then the kids later on their real passports so in the future the kids can come back to America? I'm intrigued to learn anything you are willing to share about this process. I see your job listed so you are obviously very familiar!

And yes I kind of am implying their are multiple passports for the parents based on the article, which may or may not be a typo or translation issue.
Oh no I know nothing about this topic. Not my jam

Just by what we know I do believe the kids were pre arranged to head back and that was planned, along with under their true identity
 
  • #76
Oh no I know nothing about this topic. Not my jam

Just by what we know I do believe the kids were pre arranged to head back and that was planned, along with under their true identity

I'm pretty sure I strongly believe that as well.
Also interesting the only MSM report that I have found that states the kids went back to China, was the one @Via Marple shared with us which we had to translate. I could be very wrong about that though.
 
  • #77
Remember this? An arrest today of two people who allegedly committed wire fraud and stole nearly $3 million from the missing couple in late June, when they'd already been missing for three months. Per federal prosecutors, Yinye Wang, aka Roy Wang, 36, of Roslyn and College Point, Queens, and Qiuju Wu, 55, of Flushing, and charged them with bank fraud. They'd changed the missing couple's bank accounts from individual to joint with rights of survivorship. Weirdly, they don't yet know if those charged knew the missing couple (they are still missing), or if they cooked up this scheme from hearing about the case on the news.
It's behind a paywall, but I splashed out on a six-month subscription for 25 CENTS. Might be useful for LISK info.

 
  • #78
Remember this? An arrest today of two people who allegedly committed wire fraud and stole nearly $3 million from the missing couple in late June, when they'd already been missing for three months. Per federal prosecutors, Yinye Wang, aka Roy Wang, 36, of Roslyn and College Point, Queens, and Qiuju Wu, 55, of Flushing, and charged them with bank fraud. They'd changed the missing couple's bank accounts from individual to joint with rights of survivorship. Weirdly, they don't yet know if those charged knew the missing couple (they are still missing), or if they cooked up this scheme from hearing about the case on the news.
It's behind a paywall, but I splashed out on a six-month subscription for 25 CENTS. Might be useful for LISK info.


You can use web.archive.org/save in the future instead; that way you can read the article and it will still exist if the link goes dead in the future.
 
  • #79
There’s more details here anout how Wu added the victims to her account and changed it to joint with survivorship. But still not clear on how that enabled him to drain their accounts.

 
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