NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #6

[Seaslug44]

Hi epiphany.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I think he either works on LI and commutes from the city - OR works in the city and commutes to LI.
I think there are coinkidinks between the girls - most seem to be conncected to LI, NJ and downtown (port authority/Manhattan/MSG/TS). Granted I don't know these communities, but I think that is a common thread. Hopefully LE sees that too...

It's my understanding that 3/4 of all prostitutes who advertise online are transient to reduce the risk of being caught. If you Google any of their phone numbers in their online ads you will see that it is very common to rotate locations spread out over two or more states.

PENN station is under MSG. To go from LI to, let's say Maryland, Virginia, D.C. or the Carolinas, one would take the LIRR to PENN (MSG) then travel to Port Authority to take a bus that would have to travel through New Jersey.

So basically, the majority of all Escorts who do business on Long Island would have connections to NJ, Manhattan/Port Authority/MSG. The only uncommon denominator on that trip would be Times Square (but that location can be answered by the fact that there are so many hotels there to set up shop for a night to service some higher-paying Johns before continuing on out of town). I once read how NYC is the gold-mine for escorts (just look at all of the online ads for NYC escorts at backpage dot com and you will see them).

 

[Reannan]

You just described 3 Million+ Long Islanders.

:floorlaugh: That was funny..... Sorry - I needed a laugh tonight.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

I think the sk has an obsessive compulsive disorder who lives in the area and is responsible for the bodies found in AC. He is a fisherman or possibly a truck driver who does things in fours. He probably scratches his butt 4 times, brushes his teeth 4 times, washes his hands 4 times and probably has his clothes hung in his closet in groups of...you guessed it! FOUR! He probably wrapped the bodies in burlap 4 times (wrapping and unwrapping) before discarding them. He is very meticulous in everything that he does. This monster should stand out if he is somebody's co-worker who has been tolerating his idiosyncracies. Perhaps he is or has been a patient of a therapist and/or a psychiatrist. Once he is apprehended, there will be many who will say, "I should have known!"

 

[Redbird]

I am a pretty obsessive compulsive person. When I try to imagine how the SK is thinking I definitely think he lives on LI where he keeps constant watch over the site where he dumped the bodies. He would have had about three years to watch over and control things undetected. He probably has other sites now to watch over.

 

[Lera213]

Watch this profiler:


http://topics.myfoxboston.com/m/39538775/levin-on-li-serial-killer.htm

Women in the tri-state area be wary of the guy who offers to help you with those bags at the grocery store is all I have to say. The end part where he thinks the SK might increase the anti and go after non-prostitutes is plausible.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Watch this profiler:


http://topics.myfoxboston.com/m/39538775/levin-on-li-serial-killer.htm

Oh my god! The Long Island Serial Killer is Jack Levin!

 

[Reannan]

O/T Rant

Stop the world because I want to get off!

Lord help us.

SBM - Girl.... do I need to buy you a drink???? Sure wish we lived closer!!!

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I really think he is divorced, and it was not his idea to get a divorce. I would go so far as to say the divorce happened anywhere from 2002 - 2005 (possibly 2006). I think he has a child that is probably about 5 - 7 years old now, and he gets joint custody with this child - which is probably a son. I think he has a deep seated hatred of his ex-wife because it was her idea to get a divorce, and as the child becomes more mature, he begins to feel more and more inadequate and defeated as the 'image' of a perfect 'man' that he thought he was supposed to be. I sadly believe he has enough "alone" time to be able to connect with these girls on CL and possibly have one or two encounters with them that enables him to flash his money and establish himself as a 'safe guy to be with'. I do not think the girls initially found him to be a threat. All of this is, of course, my opinion.... it is exhausting to try and get inside one of these jerks minds!!!!

LMAO! What kind of cereal does he eat, Reannan? Wheaties?

 

[nugzter]

Well like ALL known SK's, you could stand beside the guy and not think he could be capable of doing such horrible things. There MUST be things that LE knows that I wish we knew regarding his methods. Also I think it is only a matter of time before SK contacts LE or the press (if he already hasn't). He had his own private graveyard since at least 2007, and now its gone. He can't make his visits any more or even do a drive by. I bet he see it as if his hand has been forced and he will soon up the stakes. It has become a game now. The killing is one thing that he needs, the new thrill is the public fear that has now arisen. And he is probably loving it. He will be very careful at first. I bet he gives himself a "Name" or "Symbol" soon. A new dump but this one will be more "public". He wants them to be found now. It is getting dangerous for the public. He will move on from CL and might start off with a "street walker", then graduate to the public. He is surely reading all the reports and blogs. Telling his friends and neighbors how messed up this all is just to see their reactions. It's sick. But this one won' t stop any time soon. I hope LE is on this, and I mean BIG time. IMO this should ba accurate.

 

[Seaslug44]

I am a pretty obsessive compulsive person. When I try to imagine how the SK is thinking I definitely think he lives on LI where he keeps constant watch over the site where he dumped the bodies. He would have had about three years to watch over and control things undetected. He probably has other sites now to watch over.

Hmmmm.... Many of you have been sluething for a really long time so I trust you have reasons for forming many of your theories. I lost count of how many times I've read "he keeps constant watch over the site where he dumped the bodies...".

You all just made me remember something key in relation to this watching over theory; Did anyone mention to you guys that from the shore of the mainland of Long Island in the hamlets of MASSAPEQUA, COPIAGUE, LINDENHURST, BABYLON & WEST ISLIP, there is a clear view of the island where the bodies were dumped!

As a matter of fact, at night from the mainland with clear skies, you can easily see police car or ambulance lights.

 

[nugzter]

Hmmmm.... Many of you have been sluething for a really long time so I trust you have reasons for forming many of your theories. I lost count of how many times I've read "he keeps constant watch over the site where he dumped the bodies...".

You all just made me remember something key in relation to this watching over theory; Did anyone mention to you guys that from the shore of the mainland of Long Island in the hamlets of MASSAPEQUA, COPIAGUE, LINDENHURST, BABYLON & WEST ISLIP, there is a clear view of the island where the bodies were dumped!

As a matter of fact, at night from the mainland with clear skies, you can easily see police car or ambulance lights.

I thought the same thing. It looks flat as flat can get. It would be easy to dump there. Drive down the road. No headlight in front, none in back. Stop, remove the body, and drag it into the brush. Then back in the car and your out of there. 3 mins max.

 

[nugzter]

I thought the same thing. It looks flat as flat can get. It would be easy to dump there. Drive down the road. No headlight in front, none in back. Stop, remove the body, and drag it into the brush. Then back in the car and your out of there. 3 mins max.

It would also explain why they were place at intervals. Easier to remember where he left them. I bet he has markers to go by.

 

[epiphany]

I don't think his wife or mother rules anything. This guy is just a nasty psychopath who most likely mentally and emotionally abuses his wife. Probably kicks her butt too!

haha...I'm with you on that, Sistah! Emotionally and mentally abusive to the wife. She defers to him. He holds the power in their marriage, and she tolerates it. She's subservient to him. She sees him on his computer. Nothing much she can do about that. He "works late." Is "out with the boys." Doesn't have much of a say about that either.

 

[Lera213]

Um fellow WS'ers thank you for the recent giggles. I needed that, and Mountain Kat...stay away from my typo's. LMAO

My gosh, every time I read back what I wrote I'm all red in the face. TERRIBLE usage of words on my part.

 

[epiphany]

You just described 3 Million+ Long Islanders.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Exactly what I thought when I wrote it!

 

[Redbird]

If this guy is such a careful planner, you would think he had a plan all along of what to do if the bodies were discovered, another site, and if he were lucky enough maybe another place to move and start all over again.

 

[Reannan]

Anyone have any good aeriel photo's of the area??? I know someone said they did, but I can't find the link right now. Thanks!

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Hmmmm.... Many of you have been sluething for a really long time so I trust you have reasons for forming many of your theories. I lost count of how many times I've read "he keeps constant watch over the site where he dumped the bodies...".

You all just made me remember something key in relation to this watching over theory; Did anyone mention to you guys that from the shore of the mainland of Long Island in the hamlets of MASSAPEQUA, COPIAGUE, LINDENHURST, BABYLON & WEST ISLIP, there is a clear view of the island where the bodies were dumped!

As a matter of fact, at night from the mainland with clear skies, you can easily see police car or ambulance lights.

For the record, I never said he kept constant watch over the bodies, I said the dumpsite is his trophy case. He got off on driving past it knowing he knew the bodies were there and no-one else did. He probably also ocasionally hung out on the beach where that general area was visible. I don't think this is his only dump site though, I think there are others farther north. But that's just a hunch, nothing what so ever to base that on.

"Did anyone mention to you guys that from the shore of the mainland of Long Island in the hamlets of MASSAPEQUA, COPIAGUE, LINDENHURST, BABYLON & WEST ISLIP, there is a clear view of the island where the bodies were dumped!"

No. And I never even thought about it. Great piece of info. Thanks!

 

[CarnacTheMagnificent]

@shadowraiths Thanks for posting these pics. I have noticed some similarities myself and borrowed your photos. I hope you don't mind. Also, I think the names of Dilts and Roberts are mixed up on the photos.
These girls look very similar to me in sets of two, particularly in their facial structure. The pairs have the same face shape. Start from top to bottom: round, oval, square, heart, and diamond. I threw the last girl in because someone had mentioned this case earlier and she does fit the pattern. Each pair has one dark hair and one light hair, and one found on Long Island and one found in Atlantic City. The hair thing is a bit iffy as I am sure their hair color has changed often.

I have lurked here for a long time, but this is my first post. You all do some great research and throw out some excellent theories!

Also, I believe JB said in an interview, "I feel sorry for the real victims." Such a weird thing to say as others have mentioned. If he is the SK, maybe this is another thing pointing that this could be revenge type killings. He is choosing girls who have robbed their clients in the past and those are the true victims in his eye. Or possibly he sees society as a whole as victims of the work they do?

Anyway, just throwing out some ideas. Hope you don't mind me joining the 'party', for lack of a better word.

 

[dcgrumpy]

Anyone have any good aeriel photo's of the area??? I know someone said they did, but I can't find the link right now. Thanks!

Bing maps has really clear pictures of the area. Search for Oak Beach NY and click on birdseye view