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GUILTY NY - Sean "Diddy" Combs guilty re prostitution charges but NG of racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking, 17 Sept 2024
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Well, JayZ raps about both shooting his brother and selling drugs.
Could be true or false, we will never know but if he says so, I’m good.
All tabloids work ‘around’ the truth. LOL
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He has the money to use a PR firm, but not the brains.
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They think that having money means that they are smart. They are dumb for thinking that.
Sean Combs Sued by Three More Men Claiming Sexual Assault
Sean Combs was sued by three more John Does on Thursday in lawsuits alleging drugging and sexual assault in the last five years
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Meh. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, Kenrick Lamar, pretty much all of Hip Hop's largest acts have a "twisted past" if you use her rubric. It's this past and a recognition that there's better out there that typically drives them to push past it and succeed. And if we're saying that you can't push past your past and get better then this country needs to have a larger conversation about many recent events.
Anyways. I want to share my take as someone who used to closely follow hip hop and was active in communities both online and off in the 90s and 2000s. I still listen but the majority of the new stuff isn't my thing. Luckily every Saturday growing up there was a record from a differen genre playing. From the BeeGees to Hall and Oates to Michael Jackson to Metallica to Phil Specter's Wall of Sound to Bobby Brown and LL Cool J.
When I heard about Diddy's allegations I said "FINALLY!"
This Jay-Z story....I knew it was inevitable (social media was unnecessarily calling for his downfall) but after digging into the filing, I just don't believe it. Not only because this would be out of character for what we know about Jay-Z going back to the 90s but also for other reasons that I'll put in another post.
Everyone generally knew about Diddy being a awful human being and people talked openly about 'Diddy Parties'. Do the math on his first child. The mother was 17 while they were dating. We knew that. He was responsible and reckless for a bunch of kids dying at a charity event. We knew that. He was abusive to Kim Porter. There were reports that he smacked his mom at a party (this has been reported on and is IMO true) He was (IMO and others) mostly reponsible for Tupac's death and the resulting likely retaliatory murder of Biggie Smalls. He shot up that club that night with JLo. The rapper who took the fall finally came out and told the truth.
With Jay-Z people from newer generations have speculated on a close rapping relationship he had with Foxy Brown. She's denied anything intimate ever happened. Foxy Brown was always cloaked by her two over protective brothers who managed and wrote for her. And artists Nas and AZ collaborated with Foxy Brown much more than Jay-Z ever did (they did entire albums together) and rapper Kurupt actually dated her. It's just that none of those rappers are popular enough for anyone to care. Any speculations about Aaliyah are more of a 'what kind of friend is this guy' since Aaliyah was 21 when she started dating his record company co-founder. But again, with time, people have conflated Aaliyah and R.Kelly with Jay-Z. The rest of the stuff have been rumors started by a disgruntled background singer and a psychic that went viral on social media.
You can't really compare the two guys.
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It's probably time to stop whitewashing the underlying values of rap music and it's purpose as the soundtrack of th ug life.
Yo
B's & $$
Is all they kno
Laughin' like it's funny
Gonna reap what you sow
Flow? It ain't really 'bout the flow. It's about status in the hood. And that is achieved and maintained famously through violence. Continue to endorse that by explaining away lyrics, lifestyles and actions and you're gonna, yep, reap what you sow.
A bit dramatic? OK. What are the values of rappers/hip hop?
"My only heartbreak is for my family"
He posted this for the world to read. So no-one could be unsure of his values.
He doesn't have the capacity to consider that anyone other than himself and family could be victims. Even in the face of victims known to be documented on video. Victims he knows to exist from parties he attended with people he knew and associated with. There is a lot going on in this situation. I'm glad to know it's all about him.
If you've got a problem with guilt by association then maybe it's time to reconsider your company.
He wants to know who his accuser is. I bet he does.
Cue the O.J. jury.
Of course, opinions only.
Yo
B's & $$
Is all they kno
Laughin' like it's funny
Gonna reap what you sow
Flow? It ain't really 'bout the flow. It's about status in the hood. And that is achieved and maintained famously through violence. Continue to endorse that by explaining away lyrics, lifestyles and actions and you're gonna, yep, reap what you sow.
A bit dramatic? OK. What are the values of rappers/hip hop?
"My only heartbreak is for my family"
He posted this for the world to read. So no-one could be unsure of his values.
He doesn't have the capacity to consider that anyone other than himself and family could be victims. Even in the face of victims known to be documented on video. Victims he knows to exist from parties he attended with people he knew and associated with. There is a lot going on in this situation. I'm glad to know it's all about him.
If you've got a problem with guilt by association then maybe it's time to reconsider your company.
He wants to know who his accuser is. I bet he does.
Cue the O.J. jury.
Of course, opinions only.
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SBM - I genuinely can’t wait to read about the other reasons. I’m truly on the fence on Jay-Z.
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What digging did you do? I’m genuinely curious.
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Diddy Could Be Facing 300 Legal Cases Involving 'Equal Number of Men and Women,' Says Lawyer
Sean 'Diddy' Combs could be facing up to 300 cases, high-profile attorney Tony Buzbee, who is representing several of the alleged victims, said on Wednesday, Dec. 11
I have something that’s longer form that I’m working on for another medium. And don’t have access to that right now. But essentially…
- In the no Jay-Z initial filing the victim said that the driver said he would pick her up at 9:30pm.
- In the subsequent Jay-Z amended filing it turned into “after the VMAs”. So she either forgot (which is not uncommon for victims) or they realized that 9:30pm would be problematic for their case.
- the VMAs were live and ran until 11:10pm ET that night. Last just over 3 hours.
- if you watch a recording of the original broadcast with commercials still included (which is still widely available on YouTube). You’ll see a shot of JLO and Diddy still present with about 30 min left of the show. Which puts us at 10:30pm
- celebrities like Aaliyah and Dr Dre and Kid Rock were inside mingling after the show ended and were interviewed live while exiting by Kurt Loder leaving the venue. Dr Dre (the host of the 2nd after party) being the final one 30 minutes after the show. It’s not clear who was still left inside.
- so let’s say the victim was allowed to stay and watch the show outside in the seated area (where people lined up for the entire day to do) as stated in her amended filing. The show ends at 11.
- the driver said he would have to drive Diddy and JLO to the after part and then come back and get her. In midtown Manhattan….during the VMAs…. I know it’s hard for a lot of people to imagine what this traffic would look like. But assuming JLO and Diddy left at 11 and didn’t mingle like other celebrities. The driver is fighting traffic to the after party and back.
- I have the math and sourcing on the above. But not handy so I’ll skip the time estimation.
- so the victim said she waited awhile for the driver. Which would make sense considering he had to fight traffic there and back to pick her up. And then she was off to the “after party”. She said it took about 20 min and was at a white mansion with a U driveway.
- I’d love for someone to find me a white mansion 20 minutes from midtown within the NY state lines. There are many in NJ, and assuming that there’s 0 traffic of course (which never happens) and we stretch that 20 min to 30 min.
- since the suit was filed in NY. It can’t be NJ. So again, this is a real problem. I could go deeper into this but I don’t have the sourcing with me.
- and finally we get to the single biggest issue: the after party’s were at nightclubs. JLO and Diddy/Daddy/whatever were photographed first at a nightclub for N’syncs party and then again in the infamous photos of them at the other NY nightclub for Dr Dre and Eminem’s party. Jay-z was also at the 2nd club.
- there was no bed at this club. Nothing that would be even confused for a living room. And if you look at pictures, reviews, articles there are no back rooms with beds. I have more detailed info but the sourcing is not handy.
- notable that Jay-z and Beyoncé were not an item at the time. She was still with her high school bf. Her mom was her date to the VMAs and she was never pictured at the club.
- so did this driver pick the victim before the first club? After the first club and before the second club? This starts to present a serious time problem. Even for the most generous of traffic estimations for one of the busiest square miles on the planet.
- NY clubs close at 4am. So if we assume that they left at 4am that now puts this mansion party in the 5am’ish time slot. Which couldn’t be further away from her 9:30pm initially estimation.
I haven’t been able to get the metadata of the images of jlo and Diddy fighting (I’m sure Jay-Zs attorney will) at that second after party yet. So we don’t know what time they left. But let’s assume that they managed to hit 2 parties and managed to get out of there the last club party around 1am. Which would be extremely generous to the victims timeline when you consider traffic. ( I have reports I can share later that can maybe give us a hint of where they went so u won’t talk about it now).
- even this This timeline for the driver to bring JLO and Diddy home or even to go straight to pick up the victim puts us at at least 1:30am. which is far and away from 9:30pm and “after the VMA”
- did the other celebrities like Jay-Z head to the mystery mansion and leave the club early too?
- so in order for things to lineup in the victims timeline we have to make a bunch of adjustments to the actual verifiable events of that night. And these go beyond just misremembering IMO.
for her timeline to move from 9:30pm (before the VMAs) to “after the VMAs” is problematic to begin with since she remembers watching it there. But the fact that after the VMAs JLO and Diddy (with the latter being foundational to this story) went to two nightclub “after parties” that do no resemble a white mansion with a u driveway and do not having a living room and bedroom is again, problematic.
And if we are to stretch it again and assume that she actually meant that the driver was going to meet her for the after party at this mystery mansion 20 min away from Radio City Music Hall….(this contradicts everything in the filing, btw)
They are now asking us to believe that a 13 year old with no cell phone (this is 2000, and she had a clerk make a call for her in her reaccounting) managed to hang out and wait until around 1am or 2am with the most generous of assumptions and and 4am at the worst…in MIDTOWN where law enforcement is ever present to keep that area clean from solicitation of all kinds…for the driver to pick her up. Did she hang around midtown for 4 to 5 hours? Did she stand in the same spot for 4 or 5 hours?
All of the above is MOO
I’m sorry. But I fully believe most of the Diddy lawsuits and think he’s a monster IMO. Including most that I’ve read from the 90s. But this one has way too many inconsistencies. The amended areas of the filing since Jay-Zs name was added are suspect, even if recollection was refreshed.
I have more that I’ll share when I’m back at my office. But those are the major points.
If I can put this together using publicly available information there’s no way Jay-Z’s lawyer hasn’t with the resources and information they have access to.
And while the NFL has been known to make awful decisions when it comes to player code of conduct off the field. They do take their partnerships extremely seriously. And with the type of investigators they employ (ex intelligence, FBI, etc) Roger Goodall's full throated endorsement and proclamation and triple down on Jay-Z’s partnership with no equivocation or qualification should tell people all they needed to know.
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Fantastic research!
Could it have possibly been at the Robert Moses Building, or the Blackwell House? I don't see why an Event Planner couldn't have rented out a building like that and staged it with some cushy furniture.
On second thought, it really doesn't look like the blackwell house ever could have had a u-shaped driveway, regardless of how many sidewalks run around the building.
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LOL, he has the right to stay silent, but not the ability to do so.
“I have made some mistakes” in recollections of that night, the woman, identified as Jane Doe in the lawsuit filed against Jay-Z and Diddy, told NBC News.
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"We write to the Court on behalf of our client Shawn Carter on a matter of extraordinary and grave importance for the integrity of the proceedings in the above-captioned case," begins tonight's letter to the court from Jay-Z's lawyer Alex Spiro.
Jay-Z rape accuser comes forward to NBC News, acknowledges inconsistencies in her allegations
The woman told NBC News she came forward because “you should always advocate for yourself.” When asked about inconsistencies in her account, she added, “I have made some mistakes.”
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"We write to the Court on behalf of our client Shawn Carter on a matter of extraordinary and grave importance for the integrity of the proceedings in the above-captioned case," begins tonight's letter to the court from Jay-Z's lawyer Alex Spiro.
Sure, it's possible. I see speculation about that on social media. But I suspect we would have heard about it by now.
But let's imagine that it was one of those places. Can you reconcile the timeline? Can you reconcile the 9:30 ammended to "After the VMAs"? During a time that we know that Diddy and JLO attended two separate after parties? There were tabloid reports of that night since Page Six were chasing that couple all around town. So I suspect that those will surface soon.
Also, the "white mansion" with a "u-shaped" driveway is probably the #1 mansion cliche. And considering that the victim just admitted to "mistakes" in her recollection I'm going to double down on my suspicions about this case.
It's too bad. Because IMO this makes it harder for other victims to be taken seriously.
Spiro won't let up on Buzbee. But this is what happens when you open up a Diddy Hotline and don't do a very good job of vetting callers.
MOO
Spiro is one of the best attorneys on planet earth (JMO). I know what Busbee should probably do but I'll refrain from offering that opinion.“I have made some mistakes” in recollections of that night, the woman, identified as Jane Doe in the lawsuit filed against Jay-Z and Diddy, told NBC News.
Jay-Z rape accuser comes forward to NBC News, acknowledges inconsistencies in her allegations
The woman told NBC News she came forward because “you should always advocate for yourself.” When asked about inconsistencies in her account, she added, “I have made some mistakes.”
"We write to the Court on behalf of our client Shawn Carter on a matter of extraordinary and grave importance for the integrity of the proceedings in the above-captioned case," begins tonight's letter to the court from Jay-Z's lawyer Alex Spiro.
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Sean 'Diddy' Combs allegations: Former hip-hop dancer speaks out about the industry - 'They share women. They share secrets'
Elisabeth Ovesen, formerly known as Karrine Steffans, published a tell-all book in 2005, Confessions Of A Video Vixen, about her experiences of the hip-hop industry. Now, she is speaking out in the wake of the allegations against Sean "Diddy" Combs.
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Sean "Diddy" Combs will remain behind bars until his May 2025 trial begins. Yahoo Entertainment's Taryn Ryder explains what she's watching for in the music mogul's federal sex trafficking case. https://yhoo.it/4fsGuG9
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11/19/2024
Sean "Diddy" Combs will remain behind bars until his May 2025 trial begins. Yahoo Entertainment's Taryn Ryder explains what she's watching for in the music mogul's federal sex trafficking case. https://yhoo.it/4fsGuG9
Sean 'Diddy' Combs appears in court over seized handwritten notes as he's accused of witness tampering from jail
In a win for Combs, the judge ruled he won't take the notes into consideration at Friday's bail hearing as it's unclear what, if anything, is privileged.
11/19/2024
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