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NY NY - Staten Island, Mariners Marsh Park, Hisp/Male 16-22, UP77862, 2005 calendar, Jan'21
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In looking back through this thread, I was glad to see that in post #54 a poster mentioned they had sent in a suggestion that Oved Duarte may be this UID. No followup word on if they heard back or not. But still, the more people who resend or send in him as a possible, the better chance to get word back.
IMO since Mia according to reports was known to wear female clothes, that she isn't this UID, and the LE artist's sketch doesn't look similar. Plus the height. JMO.What about Mia Santiago? A 16-year old transgender (MtF) woman who vanished from Brooklyn in '05. Height is a bit off, but the timeline lines up well.
Wow, I wrote to the contact person on Namus today to suggest Oved Duarte and Ronny Pineda as possibles for this case, and they already wrote back! Here is the response:
"Thank you for your submission, we appreciate your time and support. NamUs staff will review the submitted information.
Please note, identification and exclusions are only made and/or confirmed by investigating agencies. The results of comparisons may or may not be made available to the public for investigatory reasons." Brian Nisbet
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Please note, identification and exclusions are only made and/or confirmed by investigating agencies. The results of comparisons may or may not be made available to the public for investigatory reasons." Brian Nisbet
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March 10 2023 Lengthy article, references to other UIDs.
abc7ny.com
''Since January 2021, Dr. Bradley Adams has been trying to identify the skeletal remains of a young man - possibly a teenager - that were found on the side of a deserted road near Mariner's Marsh Park on Staten Island.''
The remains found on the side of the road near Mariner's Marsh Park could have belonged to a young man who looked like this.
''Adams said it appears the young man had been stabbed to death.
"There were numerous linear marks on some of the ribs and areas of the torso that resulted from sharp force trauma," Adams said.''
According to Adams, they believe the victim was approximately 17 years old and was most likely Asian.
Adams showed Eyewitness News the clothing that was found with the remains, which include boots, a sweater with the words "Baseball 01" and a shirt that says, "All-Star Cheerleader."
''Adams said they thought at first the young man may have been involved in cheerleading, but they found out that the t-shirt may have been mass-produced and eventually donated to local thrift stores.
He said they also found a wallet in the man's pants, but all it contained was a small calendar. The calendar was from 2005.''
"Could this guy have been there from 2005 to 2021?" Adams said. "Absolutely."
''In fact, Adams said the remains were so skeletonized that the skull had rolled away from the rest of the body and roots from the nearby plants had grown through the bones and clothes. Adams and his team had to carefully remove the skeleton from the roots.''
The only thing found in the man's pants was a wallet that contained this calendar from 2005.
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The remains found on the side of the road near Mariner's Marsh Park could have belonged to a young man who looked like this.
''Adams said it appears the young man had been stabbed to death.
"There were numerous linear marks on some of the ribs and areas of the torso that resulted from sharp force trauma," Adams said.''
According to Adams, they believe the victim was approximately 17 years old and was most likely Asian.
Adams showed Eyewitness News the clothing that was found with the remains, which include boots, a sweater with the words "Baseball 01" and a shirt that says, "All-Star Cheerleader."
''Adams said they thought at first the young man may have been involved in cheerleading, but they found out that the t-shirt may have been mass-produced and eventually donated to local thrift stores.
He said they also found a wallet in the man's pants, but all it contained was a small calendar. The calendar was from 2005.''
"Could this guy have been there from 2005 to 2021?" Adams said. "Absolutely."
''In fact, Adams said the remains were so skeletonized that the skull had rolled away from the rest of the body and roots from the nearby plants had grown through the bones and clothes. Adams and his team had to carefully remove the skeleton from the roots.''
The only thing found in the man's pants was a wallet that contained this calendar from 2005.
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The shirt the man with the 2005 calendar in his wallet was wearing when his remains were found in 2021.
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Thanks for this, dotr! I really was following this case and I'm glad to see it it still being looked at. I wonder if he is a good candidate for DNA investigators. It is great to see the above likeness of him!View attachment 408524
The shirt the man with the 2005 calendar in his wallet was wearing when his remains were found in 2021.
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Now that we have the clay likeness of the UID and that he is most likely hispanic or asian, I don't think missing caucasian teen Oved Duarte is a possible anymore IMO. But we did submit his name to LE as a possible, so they do have it anyways. And the other name we had sent in is still a possible, Ronny Sosa Pineda, from Michigan, who left the Wedgewood Youth Facility January 18, 2006 and among other things, was wearing Timberland boots (so was the UID in question).
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''The body was found at around 11:20 a.m. off of Richmond Terrace near a fence by the side of a road
bordering Mariners Marsh Park in Richmond County.
The remains were so completely skeletal that the skull had rolled off and away from the body. Plants had even begun rooting into the bones and clothes.
It was revealed that the skeleton belonged to a young man between the ages of 15–22. He is estimated to have been somewhere between 4 feet 11 inches and 5 feet four inches, but was probably on the shorter end of the scale. His ethnicity was mostly likely Asian, however, it’s also possible he was Hispanic.
According to medical examiner Dr. Bradley Adams, the cause of death was homicide caused by sharp force injuries to the neck and torso. In other words, this young man had been stabbed to death.''
''If you any information regarding the case, please contact NYPD’s Crime Stoppers Hotline at 1–800–577-TIPS (8477). For Spanish, you can contact 1–888–57-PISTA (74782). You can also submit your tip to New York State Crime Stoppers, or contact them on Twitter @NYPDTips.''
Skeletal Remains of Unidentified Murdered Teenager Found in Staten Island
On January 17, 2021 in Staten Island, NY, police dispatchers receive a call from a hiker about a gruesome discovery...
''The body was found at around 11:20 a.m. off of Richmond Terrace near a fence by the side of a road
bordering Mariners Marsh Park in Richmond County.
The remains were so completely skeletal that the skull had rolled off and away from the body. Plants had even begun rooting into the bones and clothes.
It was revealed that the skeleton belonged to a young man between the ages of 15–22. He is estimated to have been somewhere between 4 feet 11 inches and 5 feet four inches, but was probably on the shorter end of the scale. His ethnicity was mostly likely Asian, however, it’s also possible he was Hispanic.
According to medical examiner Dr. Bradley Adams, the cause of death was homicide caused by sharp force injuries to the neck and torso. In other words, this young man had been stabbed to death.''
''If you any information regarding the case, please contact NYPD’s Crime Stoppers Hotline at 1–800–577-TIPS (8477). For Spanish, you can contact 1–888–57-PISTA (74782). You can also submit your tip to New York State Crime Stoppers, or contact them on Twitter @NYPDTips.''
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i dont know if i had just not seen the calendar pic before, but i didnt have a mental image of it. seeing these pics, i see that it's just one of the things that probably came in the wallet when he bought it. since nothing else was found in it, i get the sense not much was kept in it to begin with ... that calendar card probably would have been swapped out for an ID or credit card or personal photo. and honestly, that wallet looks pretty nice given that it sat in the elements for a long long time. my husband's wallet is battered and creased from constant use after less than a year.
From what I understood
the calendar was an indication of when the UID dated from. I think the other wallet items would've been removed by the perp. IMO
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Could David Antonio Cambray be a possible match?
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Skeletal Remains of Unidentified Murdered Teenager Found in Staten Island
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Why wouldn't they have just taken the whole thing?
I don't know really, possible either way.
I see some similarities but being David Cambray was in a gang in LA, the clothes found with the UID don't seem like the kind that David would be wearing. Plus it says that he was born in Mexico, lived there before LA, and Namus also said he left with two other guys, and it was thought they headed to Mexico. I just can't see him ending up in Staten Island but its possible. IMO.View attachment 426010View attachment 426013View attachment 426011
Skeletal Remains of Unidentified Murdered Teenager Found in Staten Island
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i just wonder if that is really accurate. seeing that it is something that comes in the wallet vs something he added in, it is less of a given to me that he died some time in 2015... just today i was at a thrift store and saw a wallet that was not used and had a calendar from 2018 in it.
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"Could this guy have been there from 2005 to 2021?" Adams said. "Absolutely."
In fact, Adams said the remains were so skeletonized that the skull had rolled away from the rest of the body and roots from the nearby plants had grown through the bones and clothes. Adams and his team had to carefully remove the skeleton from the roots.
abc7ny.com
In fact, Adams said the remains were so skeletonized that the skull had rolled away from the rest of the body and roots from the nearby plants had grown through the bones and clothes. Adams and his team had to carefully remove the skeleton from the roots.
Inside the NYC Medical Examiner's coldest unidentified persons cases
They are the faces of the victims that have been unidentified by the New York City Medical Examiner for years.
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I've been reading these threads for a while and I know the sketches/renderings of does aren't always accurate, but what do you think of UP77862 and MP65431?
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What matches:
What doesn't match or would need explanation:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
What matches:
- Biological sex (Male)
- Ethnicity (Hispanic/Latino)
- Age (15 - 22 years old)
- Facial structure (based purely off the sketch - do you see similarities too?)
What doesn't match or would need explanation:
- MP was reported missing in FL in Dec 2007, UP was found in NY in Jan 2021 (estimated year of death is 2004-2006).
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