NY - Twenty Fatality Traffic Crash, Schoharie County, 6 Oct 2018

[crhedBngr]

Here's a bit more info. on stretch limos and seatbelts:

Do Limos Have Seat Belts? - Blog | Luxor Limousine

From above-linked article:

Passenger vehicles designed to seat more than 10 people, that have mainly seats that face sideways, aren’t required to be fitted with seat belts. Stretch limos, and some kinds of party bus, can fall into that category.

I'm enclosing an additional article on the safety of party buses, which includes some statistics on the number of accidents. It is an interesting read.

Party Bus Safety Rules for Limo Owners and Clients

 

[luvhockey]

Looking at the 2nd picture in post #80 it looks like the limo went straight and hit the opposite side of the ravine straight on. That would be like hitting a wall at 60mph throwing everyone in the car forward at 60mph into (the back of) the front seats and windshield.

 

[sweetcaro]

Unbelievable tragedy. My heart is with all those left behind to grieve.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

A family member is being interviewed on CNN. The aunt of her niece, who was celebrating her 30th birthday.

She said her niece texted a friend before she got into the limo. The first limo had broken down, so the company sent another one. The second one wasn't much better. The aunt says her niece texted her friend, joking that she wasn't sure she'd survive her birthday in that limo. "Twenty minutes later, she was dead," her aunt said.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It really is horrific. I'm thinking about the effects of rapid deceleration, and how every collision is really 3 collisions:

• vehicle with object
• passengers with interior of vehicle/other passengers
• internal organs with other body structures

Thank you for the valuable though sad information.

I suppose these are the reasons used by the accident experts who say there can be fatalities even at 35 mph. I do think it is due to the sudden deceleration when there is forward motion right before and then a complete deceleration upon impact.

It literally must be like hitting a concrete wall without warning.

Heartbreaking.

Jmo

 

[crhedBngr]

A family member is being interviewed on CNN. The aunt of her niece, who was celebrating her 30th birthday.

She said her niece texted a friend before she got into the limo. The first limo had broken down, so the company sent another one. The second one wasn't much better. The aunt says her niece texted her friend, joking that she wasn't sure she'd survive her birthday in that limo. "Twenty minutes later, she was dead," her aunt said.

RBBM

Ohhhh, boy.

 

[Mica]

A family member is being interviewed on CNN. The aunt of her niece, who was celebrating her 30th birthday.

She said her niece texted a friend before she got into the limo. The first limo had broken down, so the company sent another one. The second one wasn't much better. The aunt says her niece texted her friend, joking that she wasn't sure she'd survive her birthday in that limo. "Twenty minutes later, she was dead," her aunt said.

Sounds like this limo company didn’t maintain their cars.

 

[kirkassoc]

This picture with the red line seems to indicate the probable path of the limo after going thru the stop sign at the intersection, and it leads to that bushy treed area that could be a ravine. Is that where it likely ended up? Seems to correlate with the picture of the vehicle we have seen, no?

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If the vehicle was traveling the route indicated by the red line, I wonder how it struck a car or pedestrians in the parking lot?

 

[Deleted member 278]

RBBM

Ohhhh, boy.

Ohhhh, boy is right.

 

[Mica]

If the vehicle was traveling the route indicated by the red line, I wonder how it struck a car or pedestrians in the parking lot?

I added another red line of travel to the photo. Perhaps the limo veered a bit to the left as opposed to traveling a straight route into the brush.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

So, so tragic. Heartbreaking.

The Latest: Site of limousine crash long a dangerous spot

A relative says the limousine that crashed in upstate New York was carrying revelers to a 30th birthday party for one of four sisters on board.

That's according to Barbara Douglas, who identified herself as the sisters' aunt at the crash scene. She says all four sisters were killed. Douglas says the sisters "did the responsible thing getting a limo so they wouldn't have to drive anywhere."​

 

[Mica]

A family lost four daughters.

>>Snip

A limousine that crashed in upstate New York on Sunday, killing all 18 inside and two pedestrians, was carrying four sisters celebrating the 30th birthday of one of them, their aunt said.

An aunt of the four sisters, Barbara Douglas, said the party was a surprise for her niece Amy Steenberg.

“They did the responsible thing getting a limo so they wouldn't be driving,” Douglas said.

20 people killed in limousine crash in New York state, police say

 

[CocoChanel]

A family lost four daughters.

>>Snip

A limousine that crashed in upstate New York on Sunday, killing all 18 inside and two pedestrians, was carrying four sisters celebrating the 30th birthday of one of them, their aunt said.

An aunt of the four sisters, Barbara Douglas, said the party was a surprise for her niece Amy Steenberg.

“They did the responsible thing getting a limo so they wouldn't be driving,” Douglas said.

20 people killed in limousine crash in New York state, police say

Cannot even imagine the grief caused by this tragedy.

 

[Gardenista]

I have no words after reading the posts on this page.

 

[dotr]

Unbearable tragedy, my heart goes out to all.
Limo Crash Kills 20 in Upstate New York; Nation’s Deadliest Accident in 9 Years
"The 2001 Ford Excursion limousine barreled through the intersection of two highways without stopping, crashing into another vehicle, an unoccupied 2015 Toyota Highlander, before landing in a ravine beyond the road. The two pedestrians were struck near the Apple Barrel and killed.

The loss of life stunned even seasoned investigators, who called it the nation’s deadliest transportation accident since a 2009 plane crash near Buffalo, N.Y., killed 50 people.

“Twenty fatalities is just horrific,” said Robert L. Sumwalt, the chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, which is launching a comprehensive investigation. “I’ve been on the board for 12 years and this is one of the biggest losses of life that we’ve seen in a long, long time.”

 

[margarita25]

New York limousine crash kills 20 in deadliest U.S. vehicle accident since 2009 | Reuters

“It was the deadliest transportation accident in the United States since a 2009 plane crash in Buffalo, New York, that killed 49 people, said Chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board Robert Sumwalt.“

(Sorry if repost)

 

[CocoChanel]

A family member is being interviewed on CNN. The aunt of her niece, who was celebrating her 30th birthday.

She said her niece texted a friend before she got into the limo. The first limo had broken down, so the company sent another one. The second one wasn't much better. The aunt says her niece texted her friend, joking that she wasn't sure she'd survive her birthday in that limo. "Twenty minutes later, she was dead," her aunt said.

Ohhhh noooo.

 

[cass523]

A family member is being interviewed on CNN. The aunt of her niece, who was celebrating her 30th birthday.

She said her niece texted a friend before she got into the limo. The first limo had broken down, so the company sent another one. The second one wasn't much better. The aunt says her niece texted her friend, joking that she wasn't sure she'd survive her birthday in that limo. "Twenty minutes later, she was dead," her aunt said.

I watched CNN also. She also said in her text, "It was making clunking noises, it was rusty and holes in it, the limo did not look good."

 

[CocoChanel]

In a split second, hundreds of lives permanently and horrifically changed by an accident that killed 20 people enjoying their day. I so want to blame someone or something. I know that is not within my power or place though. I can only try to concentrate my energies on praying for/thinking of those who are in unimaginable pain and will never be the same. May they find the strength to face the days, months, years ahead that are changed forever.

 

[Gardenista]

The sisters, who have been identified as Abigail Jackson, Mary Dyson, Allison King and Amy Steenburg, 30, were on the way to celebrate Amy - the youngest's - 30th birthday when the crash occurred.

Abby Jackson, mom to four-year-old ****** and 16-month-old ****, was with her husband Adam, while her sister Amy was with her husband Axel Steenburg, 29, his wife Amy, and his 34-year-old brother Rich Steenburg.

Mary Dyson and her husband Robert, and sister Allison King were also among the casualties.

Family has also identified newlyweds Erin McGowan, 34, and her husband Shane McGowan, 30, as two of the victims. They only just got married in June.

20 people killed in New York limo crash 'on the way to a wedding' | Daily Mail Online