NY - Twenty Fatality Traffic Crash, Schoharie County, 6 Oct 2018

[GrilledCheezy]

@CARIIS I found this image. Helped me visualize how damn steep that road is.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Limo involved in fatal crash never should have been on the road, New York governor says

"The owner of the company had no business putting a failed vehicle on the road," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said on Monday about the car that had recently failed an inspection.

Thanks for clearing that up BDE. It makes sense these limos would have to meet inspection. So they are regulated just like I thought.

Jmo

 

[CARIIS]

@CARIIS I found this image. Helped me visualize how damn steep that road is.

TY

resulted in a scary image - like they probably knew going down things were not going well

 

[Nameto123]

More updates FBI informant in terror stings owned limo in deadly crash, state source confirms

 

[Gardenista]

This is true. The article (Deadly combination of crash site and limo company which has had four vehicles taken out of service | Daily Mail Online) where the people at the hotel say they have never heard of Sahed Hussain but the owners go by Malik, This attached article below shows Sahed goes by Malik Informant for FBI is freed

TY! Just found more info here:

Hussain’s address is the Crest Inn Suites and Cottages, a string of 23, one-story attached units that manager Barney Cornett, 60, described as “traditional housing.”

Cornett identified the Crest Inn’s owner as a man he knows only as “Mr. Malik,” who lives in Dubai.

Hussain, 62, is also known as “Malik,” according to local news reports.

Cornett said Hussain’s son — who he knows as “Shawn” — formerly lived at the Crest Inn but recently moved to Albany, and now “just comes here to collect the rent and leaves.”

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/owner-of-limo-company-in-horrific-crash-was-an-fbi-informant/

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Major lawsuits on the way, to be sure!

If the Hussain family have passports those need to be confiscated as a matter of urgency to stop them fleeing the country.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Has anyone posted the name/information about the brewery that was the group's destination? I'm wondering if the brewery recommends limousine services to patrons? I've been reading about local (metro Detroit) brewery "tours". Looks like breweries recommend transportation companies to patrons or offer their own transportation services.

 

[Gardenista]

Has anyone posted the name/information about the brewery that was the group's destination? I'm wondering if the brewery recommends limousine services to patrons? I've been reading about local (metro Detroit) brewery "tours". Looks like breweries recommend transportation companies to patrons or offer their own transportation services.

Karina said she’d been texting her sister up until the crash, the country’s deadliest transportation accident in nearly a decade.

“I got a text from my sister at 12:55 [p.m.] on Saturday that said, ‘We’re going to the Ommegang Brewery in Cooperstown for a birthday party,” Karina said. “I texted her back at a little after 2, but the message went unanswered because it was a few minutes after the wreck happened.”

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/griev...change-with-sibling-before-tragic-limo-crash/

 

[Gardenista]

Has anyone posted the name/information about the brewery that was the group's destination? I'm wondering if the brewery recommends limousine services to patrons? I've been reading about local (metro Detroit) brewery "tours". Looks like breweries recommend transportation companies to patrons or offer their own transportation services.

Brewery Ommegang— Everything for a Reason

Transportation: Ommegang’s preferred taxi provider is A & D Taxi & Transport

 

[Gardenista]

Verified account 8m8 minutes ago
NBC News: Multiple law enforcement officials identified the driver in Saturday's deadly limo crash in Schoharie, NY as Scott Lisnicchia, age 53. The @nyspolice will hold a 4pm briefing today on the crash. Reported with @MarcSantia4NY

 

[MelmothTheLost]

@CARIIS I found this image. Helped me visualize how damn steep that road is.

You think that's bad?

From the bottom:

Google Maps

From the top:

Google Maps

At least one truck a day gets stuck on Sutton Bank.

 

[CARIIS]

More updates FBI informant in terror stings owned limo in deadly crash, state source confirms

This sounds more like the classic corruption seen all over (ignoring the laws to make a buck)

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

@Gardenista, perhaps you could snip the taxi company’s phone number from your post? I’m just concerned about putting it out there, since it’s a private company unrelated to the wreck?

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I am confused --how does folks cooperating with our Federal Bureau of Investigation 15 years ago fit in here??

This sounds more like the classic corruption seen all over (ignoring the laws to make a buck)

Yes, I agree with you, @CARIIS. This seems to me like slipshod and grossly negligent business management. Criminally negligent, imo.

 

[Gardenista]

@Gardenista, perhaps you could snip the taxi company’s phone number from your post? I’m just concerned about putting it out there, since it’s a private company unrelated to the wreck?

Done. Took out the link too

 

[Gardenista]

'A wake up call': Demands for tougher rules on 'unsafe and unregulated' limos after worst transportation crash since 2009 kills 20 despite previous accidents which left vehicles split in HALF, decapitated passengers, and burned them alive

Demands for tougher rules for limo after Schoharie crash kills 20 | Daily Mail Online

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Done. Took out the link too

Right on. Thank you!

 

[Satchie]

The pictures you're referring to (attached) actually show the drag marks the wrecked limo left on the ground and pavement after it was pulled from the ravine by the tow truck.

View attachment 150098 View attachment 150096

Possibly it was dragged out the same way it went in? Given the terrain, the trees and the length of the limo, it seems the likeliest solution to getting it out.

 

[CARIIS]

TY! Just found more info here:

Hussain’s address is the Crest Inn Suites and Cottages, a string of 23, one-story attached units that manager Barney Cornett, 60, described as “traditional housing.”

Cornett identified the Crest Inn’s owner as a man he knows only as “Mr. Malik,” who lives in Dubai.

Hussain, 62, is also known as “Malik,” according to local news reports.

Cornett said Hussain’s son — who he knows as “Shawn” — formerly lived at the Crest Inn but recently moved to Albany, and now “just comes here to collect the rent and leaves.”

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/owner-of-limo-company-in-horrific-crash-was-an-fbi-informant/

ha

“just comes here to collect the rent and leaves.”

sounds like every landlord in the US of A!

 

[CARIIS]

Karina said she’d been texting her sister up until the crash, the country’s deadliest transportation accident in nearly a decade.

“I got a text from my sister at 12:55 [p.m.] on Saturday that said, ‘We’re going to the Ommegang Brewery in Cooperstown for a birthday party,” Karina said. “I texted her back at a little after 2, but the message went unanswered because it was a few minutes after the wreck happened.”

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/griev...change-with-sibling-before-tragic-limo-crash/

any locals know

how long they had been in the limo before tragedy?

How far away they were from there destination

Does the store near the accident have CCTV?