NY - Twenty Fatality Traffic Crash, Schoharie County, 6 Oct 2018

[KaaBoom]

You can't confiscate every Commercial vehicle that doesn't pass inspection. The owners were the sneaky ones here. Jmo

Why not? I'm pretty damn sure that if I let my driver's license and car registration expire and continued to drive it anyway, the first time I would get pulled over, the last I would see of my car is it being towed to the impound lot. I don't know why commercial vehicles shouldn't be treated the same.

 

[MsBetsy]

It doesn't matter if he had passengers or not. He was operating an unsafe, unregistered vehicle without a proper driver's license for it. If they had done their job, and impounded the vehicle, 20 people would be alive right now.

I don't know what the law is in regard to impoundong a vehicle. Where is it stated that the vehicle was not registered? This is the first I have heard of that. If that is the case, I would think they would have the authority to impound the vehicle and arrest him. Where is the fact that it was not registered coming from?

 

[mickey2942]

You can't confiscate every Commercial vehicle that doesn't pass inspection. The owners were the sneaky ones here. Jmo

Why not? Where is the line drawn?
A school bus?
Airplane?
Truck?
Limousine?
Commercial bus?

 

[KaaBoom]

Agree.

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“The trooper also took steps to ensure that the vehicle was taken off the road, returned to its original location and directed the driver not to drive the vehicle," state police said.

But police said the trooper did not have the legal authority to seize the plates or the vehicle during that stop.

Troopers arrest operator of limo company after deadly New York crash

It must be true, because the police never lie when they mess up. It's totally predictable that they would say that. They are going to get sued over it. I want to see proof that New York cops don't have authority to impound unregistered vehicles driven by improperly licensed drivers. I'm willing to bet that they impound hundreds of such vehicles.

 

[Mica]

It must be true, because the police never lie when they mess up. It's totally predictable that they would say that. They are going to get sued over it. I want to see proof that New York cops don't have authority to impound unregistered vehicles driven by improperly licensed drivers. I'm willing to bet that they impound hundreds of such vehicles.

I wasn’t aware the vehicle was unregistered.

 

[CARIIS]

Those are DMV standards that are presumably in a booklet somewhere of what you are supposed to be doing. Even regular license tells you to make sure your car is in working order. You check your mirrors, you check your turn signals, etc.

and who really does that any more!! People are so consumed with their cell phones that it is becoming a problem leaving their kids in their cars these days - I cant imagine anyone checking any of this stuff.

I dont

IMO A walk around would not change anything,

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why not? Where is the line drawn?
A school bus?
Airplane?
Truck?
Limousine?
Commercial bus?

The same way the government can't take your rental property if it doesn't pass inspection. Jmo.

Now of course they can tell you not to rent it out. But they can't take it from you. Jmo.

 

[KaaBoom]

I don't know what the law is in regard to impoundong a vehicle. Where is it stated that the vehicle was not registered? This is the first I have heard of that. If that is the case, I would think they would have the authority to impound the vehicle and arrest him. Where is the fact that it was not registered coming from?

The company had no authority to operate. Everything about the company was 100% illegal. They had no operating authority, their cars weren't properly registered, their drivers weren't properly licensed, and the cops just stuck a sticker on the car and told them to get it fixed.

The Excursion stretch limo also was not properly registered with the state as a bus as required because it had room for more than 10 passengers. That classification would have subjected the company to more stringent regulation, including inspections every six months that school buses and motor coaches must undergo.

Owner of limo company involved in deadly Schoharie crash lacked DOT authority to transport riders

 

[KaaBoom]

I wasn’t aware the vehicle was unregistered.

The company didn't even have authority to be transporting passengers. They shouldn't have even been operating.

Owner of limo company involved in deadly Schoharie crash lacked DOT authority to transport riders

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why not? I'm pretty damn sure that if I let my driver's license and car registration expire and continued to drive it anyway, the first time I would get pulled over, the last I would see of my car is it being towed to the impound lot. I don't know why commercial vehicles shouldn't be treated the same.

The government can shut down 1 of your restaurants if it failed major inspections.

But they can't monitor you 24/7 to make sure you didn't sneak people in and served them a dish. Jmo.

Plus imagine you rented out unsafe houses that you own.

They still can't take your house. They can only tell you not to rent it out. Jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

I wasn’t aware the vehicle was unregistered.

According to an article from CNN, there was a violation in improper registation or license plate, plus six other violations that "did not warrant the vehicle being taken off the road." Its very vague and I'm not sure what it means, it may have something to do with the way it was displayed, but apparently it was not enough to impound the vehicle. Jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

The company didn't even have authority to be transporting passengers. They shouldn't have even been operating.

Owner of limo company involved in deadly Schoharie crash lacked DOT authority to transport riders

Right, and despite all the warnings, they chose to keep the vehicle on the road, so the responsibility lies with the owner of the company. It is not the fault of the State Police that they continued to put their customers in danger. They were not required to impound the vehicle. It was taken out of service, and the owner knowingly allowed the vehicle to be used, despite numerous citations and warnings.

 

[Mica]

The company didn't even have authority to be transporting passengers. They shouldn't have even been operating.

Owner of limo company involved in deadly Schoharie crash lacked DOT authority to transport riders

Makes me wonder if the former FBI informant and his family have “special privileges.” Laws don’t apply to them.

 

[MsBetsy]

Makes me wonder if the former FBI informant and his family have “special privileges.” La. Oops I accidentally deleted part of the post above but I do wonder if the owners role in the FBI will have any effect on the outcome in all this. It will be interesting to find out. Maybe a lesser charge? Jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

Makes me wonder if the former FBI informant and his family have “special privileges.” Laws don’t apply to them.

I messed up my reply to this but I am curious to see if his role as an FBI informant will come into play...

 

[Mica]

I messed up my reply to this but I am curious to see if his role as an FBI informant will come into play...

I wonder if it already has...

 

[MsBetsy]

I wonder if it already has...

Might be in the works!

 

[mickey2942]

The same way the government can't take your rental property if it doesn't pass inspection. Jmo.

Now of course they can tell you not to rent it out. But they can't take it from you. Jmo.

They should be able to impound the vehicle. And collect charges against the company.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't know what the law is in regard to impoundong a vehicle. Where is it stated that the vehicle was not registered? This is the first I have heard of that. If that is the case, I would think they would have the authority to impound the vehicle and arrest him. Where is the fact that it was not registered coming from?

I don't know. I also don't know about NY State but my state will tow any unregistered or expired-registered vehicle in a driveway after a certain number of hours. First, the sheriff's dept. ticket it. They return later and if the vehicle is still there, it is towed to the impound lot.
JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Makes me wonder if the former FBI informant and his family have “special privileges.” Laws don’t apply to them.

They may have been under that false assumption but I bet reality is catching up with them.

JMO