OCSO Blasts Anthonys for New 'Sighting' Pic / All Sighting Information #2

[wedavis]

I guess here's my point. This is all for show. This is not unavoidable inconvenience for an innocent family. Caylee's mom is being held on first degree murder charges. There is scientific evidence that this baby is dead. The FBI stated yesterday uncategorically that the baby is dead. No reason to traumatize an innocent child and her family to help KC's defense. That's where I differ with you. It is a big deal, especially since in this case there is no reason to be out photographing children. Btw, isn't it interesting the children are being photographed but not their kidnappers??? What the H**L is that about?

Phony baloney all around and it needs to stop.

How is taking a picture of a child traumatizing to either the child or the family? I don't get it.

 

[Janis396]

Yes, don't let this case set a precedent where we stop looking for missing kids just because the cops say they are dead. In Caylee's case, it's a little different because the science says she is dead, it's proven fact, not someone's opinion.

Can you provide info, or a link, that shows where a child went missing and the cops said the child was dead, and then the child showed up alive?

 

[RR0004]

The quote from George was taken from the recently released FBI Interviews with the Anthonys. It was also repeated in this WFTV article which also includes a link to the video interviews;

http://www.wftv.com/news/18032990/detail.html#-

Hope this helps

Thanks a bunch!

 

[LaLaw2000]

Because if OCSO doesn't, it allows the Caylee alive hysteria to continue and as BeanE and others pointed out, it could lead to another child being harmed. Every brown haired little girl out there, aged four and under is now at risk of being stalked and kidnapped, by the A's themselves or one of their fans supporting them. It has gotten downright scary and needs to be stopped.

IMO, what OCSO did was a public service message.

ETA: because of the reward out there, every brown haired little girl has a bounty on her head.

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I so agree with you, SuziQ! Especially your bolded ETA statement!

 

[zoey]

How is taking a picture of a child traumatizing to either the child or the family? I don't get it.

if the child is a foster child, or pehaps hiding from someone abusive...privacy issues...skim a few pages back....
jmo

 

[zoey]

:clap:

I so agree with you, SuziQ! Especially your bolded ETA statement!

don't think the reward is out there anymore...think it expired ---

 

[not_my_kids]

Can you provide info, or a link, that shows where a child went missing and the cops said the child was dead, and then the child showed up alive?

Elizabeth Smart.
Shawn Hornbeck was presumed dead, due to passage of time.
Delimar Vera...they thought there was scientific evidence of death there too
Shasta Groene
There are more, but I think that's enough to start it off.

 

[RR0004]

How is taking a picture of a child traumatizing to either the child or the family? I don't get it.

I think the point has been made throughout the thread. What if someone were to take it upon themselves to grab the child (or any child for that matter) that they believe looks like a missing child? There are reasons why parents are asked to sign a release in schools to have their child's picture taken that may appear in a newsletter, newspaper, or on the school's website. Many parents see it as being proactive. In todays's day and age they're cautious. I can't blame them. There are a whole lot of sickies out there.

 

[not_my_kids]

don't think the reward is out there anymore...think it expired ---

It did expire...like months ago.

 

[rozey]

some info on the legalities of taking and publishing photos. It is a little confusing but I would think if publishing this photo causes the family problems they would have grounds.

http://www.kantor.com/blog/Legal-Rights-of-Photographers.pdf

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

I guess here's my point. This is all for show. This is not unavoidable inconvenience for an innocent family. Caylee's mom is being held on first degree murder charges. There is scientific evidence that this baby is dead. The FBI stated yesterday uncategorically that the baby is dead. No reason to traumatize an innocent child and her family to help KC's defense. That's where I differ with you. It is a big deal, especially since in this case there is no reason to be out photographing children. Btw, isn't it interesting the children are being photographed but not their kidnappers??? What the H**L is that about?
Phony baloney all around and it needs to stop.

Yeah, what the is h*ll is up with that?

 

[Janis396]

Elizabeth Smart.
Shawn Hornbeck was presumed dead, due to passage of time.
Delimar Vera...they thought there was scientific evidence of death there too
Shasta Groene
There are more, but I think that's enough to start it off.

I followed the ES case very closely and don't recall the police ever saying she was dead. Same with Shawn Hornbeck or Shasta Groene (whose case happened near where I live). Could you provide links to the newsstories that show LE actually issued statements that these kids were dead?

 

[RR0004]

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/uploads/15/Caylee_flyer(1).pdf

Not according to the latest flyer posted...could be a different reward.

ETA...oops, for those who were questioning a reward.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

Well, if it was taken 10-16, then the final Caylee is dead statement hadn't been made yet. Also, until there is a body, I would encourage the public to keep looking, NOT FOR CAYLEE, as I believe she is gone too. But for other children in the future in which LE makes a mistake and announces them dead while they are not.

If the picture was taken on Oct. 16th, why wasn't it given to the media then? IMHO, because the A's know that is not Caylee. They are using an innocent child in their quest to create doubt.

 

[not_my_kids]

I followed the ES case very closely and don't recall the police ever saying she was dead. Same with Shawn Hornbeck or Shasta Groene (whose case happened near where I live). Could you provide links to the newsstories that show LE actually issued statements that these kids were dead?

LE stated a few times in ES case that they thought she was "probably deceased.
Shasta Groene, I have the book on, investigators quoted as saying that "they had every reason to believe that both Groene children were deceased."
Shawn Hornbeck, like I said, presumed due to passage of time.
The vera child was thought to be dead after a house fire, investigators claimed to have found small amounts of biological material confirming this. She was 6 years old when she was taken. She was twelve when DNA testing concluded that she was a)not dead and b) not the child of the woman she had been calling Mommy for the past 6 years.

 

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

How is taking a picture of a child traumatizing to either the child or the family? I don't get it.

Because they are saying that this may be a child that LE has said is dead.

Bottom line.....if I want a picture of my child on the internet and/or on news channels; I will be the one to do so, not some stranger.

 

[not_my_kids]

If the picture was taken on Oct. 16th, why wasn't it given to the media then? IMHO, because the A's know that is not Caylee. They are using an innocent child in their quest to create doubt.

I agree with you there, I am in no way saying that the child is Caylee. I don't see the resemblance. As for why, it wasn't given to the media then, it hadn't been 31 days yet. You know the A family rules on disclosing info.
I just think that it may be setting a dangerous precedent of asking the public to go through life with their eyes closed. So many people are loath to get involved in any kind of criminal case anyway. I don't think that we need to add "fear of being sued." to the list of reasons to just stay out of it.

 

[Janis396]

LE stated a few times in ES case that they thought she was "probably deceased.
Shasta Groene, I have the book on, investigators quoted as saying that "they had every reason to believe that both Groene children were deceased."
Shawn Hornbeck, like I said, presumed due to passage of time.
The vera child was thought to be dead after a house fire, investigators claimed to have found small amounts of biological material confirming this. She was 6 years old when she was taken. She was twelve when DNA testing concluded that she was a)not dead and b) not the child of the woman she had been calling Mommy for the past 6 years.

I just read that LE was chasing dead-ends leads all over the country in the ES case up until the day she was found. Why would they do that if they thought she was deceased? And LE did not have every reason to believe the Groene children were dead, they didn't have body or evidence of death, all they knew was that they had a kidnapping, by a murderer, on their hands.

Be that as it may, I don't think that you can compare the cases you've brought up to what's going on with Caylee's case. There is hard scientific evidence of death in this case, and Caylee's grandparents use of pictures of other people's children as a way to perpetuate their agenda on the public is sickening. IMO of course.

 

[not_my_kids]

I just read that LE was chasing dead-ends leads all over the country in the ES case up until the day she was found. Why would they do that if they thought she was deceased? And LE did not have every reason to believe the Groene children were dead, they didn't have body or evidence of death, all they knew was that they had a kidnapping, by a murderer, on their hands.

Be that as it may, I don't think that you can compare the cases you've brought up to what's going on with Caylee's case. There is hard scientific evidence of death in this case, and Caylee's grandparents use of pictures of other people's children as a way to perpetuate their agenda on the public is sickening. IMO of course.

Okay then I'll just stick with Delimar Vera, as there was scientific evidence in that case. Not to mention, like I've said several times now, this is not so much about Caylee herself, but about the precedent for future cases. The one thing I don't doubt here is that Caylee is dead. But LE is not infallible and neither are tests, so it is the future cases that bother me.

ETA: They had a confession in Natasha Ryans case and she was found alive.

 

[rozey]

LE stated a few times in ES case that they thought she was "probably deceased.
Shasta Groene, I have the book on, investigators quoted as saying that "they had every reason to believe that both Groene children were deceased."
Shawn Hornbeck, like I said, presumed due to passage of time.
The vera child was thought to be dead after a house fire, investigators claimed to have found small amounts of biological material confirming this. She was 6 years old when she was taken. She was twelve when DNA testing concluded that she was a)not dead and b) not the child of the woman she had been calling Mommy for the past 6 years.

None of these families waited 31 days to report them missing. Oranges and apples.