GUILTY OH - Barb Williams for child abuse, Hancock County, 2014

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Here's another article.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/article/4557396

YAY!!! She should be charged but with more than that if you ask me.

I assume this means she can no longer teach?

 

[gitana1]

YAY!!! She should be charged but with more than that if you ask me.

I assume this means she can no longer teach?

Yeah. Child endangerment, should she be found guilty, excludes teaching.

But I think the charge is proabably right. Some dude punched Brad Pitt in the face recently, for no reason, just as a publicity stunt, and he was charged with a misdemeanor for that.

I think it depends in part on the damage done:

(1) Whoever violates this section is guilty of endangering children.

(2) If the offender violates division (A) or (B)(1) of this section, endangering children is one of the following, and, in the circumstances described in division (E)(2)(e) of this section, that division applies:

(a) Except as otherwise provided in division (E)(2)(b), (c), or (d) of this section, a misdemeanor of the first degree;

(b) If the offender previously has been convicted of an offense under this section or of any offense involving neglect, abandonment, contributing to the delinquency of, or physical abuse of a child, except as otherwise provided in division (E)(2)(c) or (d) of this section, a felony of the fourth degree;

(c) If the violation is a violation of division (A) of this section and results in serious physical harm to the child involved, a felony of the third degree;

(d) If the violation is a violation of division (B)(1) of this section and results in serious physical harm to the child involved, a felony of the second degree.

(e) If the violation is a felony violation of division (B)(1) of this section and the offender also is convicted of or pleads guilty to a specification as described in section 2941.1422 of the Revised Code that was included in the indictment, count in the indictment, or information charging the offense, the court shall sentence the offender to a mandatory prison term as provided in division (B)(7) of section 2929.14 of the Revised Code and shall order the offender to make restitution as provided in division (B)(8) of section 2929.18 of the Revised Code.

(3) If the offender violates division (B)(2), (3), (4), or (6) of this section, except as otherwise provided in this division, endangering children is a felony of the third degree. If the violation results in serious physical harm to the child involved, or if the offender previously has been convicted of an offense under this section or of any offense involving neglect, abandonment, contributing to the delinquency of, or physical abuse of a child, endangering children is a felony of the second degree. If the offender violates division (B)(2), (3), or (4) of this section and the offender also is convicted of or pleads guilty to a specification as described in section 2941.1422 of the Revised Code that was included in the indictment, count in the indictment, or information charging the offense, the court shall sentence the offender to a mandatory prison term as provided in division (B)(7) of section 2929.14 of the Revised Code and shall order the offender to make restitution as provided in division (B)(8) of section 2929.18 of the Revised Code. If the offender violates division (B)(6) of this section and the drug involved is methamphetamine, the court shall impose a mandatory prison term on the offender as follows:

(a) If the violation is a violation of division (B)(6) of this section that is a felony of the third degree under division (E)(3) of this section and the drug involved is methamphetamine, except as otherwise provided in this division, the court shall impose as a mandatory prison term one of the prison terms prescribed for a felony of the third degree that is not less than two years. If the violation is a violation of division (B)(6) of this section that is a felony of the third degree under division (E)(3) of this section, if the drug involved is methamphetamine, and if the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to a violation of division (B)(6) of this section, a violation of division (A) of section 2925.04 of the Revised Code, or a violation of division (A) of section 2925.041 of the Revised Code, the court shall impose as a mandatory prison term one of the prison terms prescribed for a felony of the third degree that is not less than five years.

(b) If the violation is a violation of division (B)(6) of this section that is a felony of the second degree under division (E)(3) of this section and the drug involved is methamphetamine, except as otherwise provided in this division, the court shall impose as a mandatory prison term one of the prison terms prescribed for a felony of the second degree that is not less than three years. If the violation is a violation of division (B)(6) of this section that is a felony of the second degree under division (E)(3) of this section, if the drug involved is methamphetamine, and if the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to a violation of division (B)(6) of this section, a violation of division (A) of section 2925.04 of the Revised Code, or a violation of division (A) of section 2925.041 of the Revised Code, the court shall impose as a mandatory prison term one of the prison terms prescribed for a felony of the second degree that is not less than five years.

(4) If the offender violates division (B)(5) of this section, endangering children is a felony of the second degree. If the offender also is convicted of or pleads guilty to a specification as described in section 2941.1422 of the Revised Code that was included in the indictment, count in the indictment, or information charging the offense, the court shall sentence the offender to a mandatory prison term as provided in division (B)(7) of section 2929.14 of the Revised Code and shall order the offender to make restitution as provided in division (B)(8) of section 2929.18 of the Revised Code. http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2919.22

 

[screecher]

Good. Now I want for Barbara Williams to be convicted. And in my world, her pension would be denied.

 

[K_Z]

Riverdale student’s family alleges conflict of interest, calls for new investigation

The family of the kindergartner at Riverdale Elementary School in Mount Blanchard wants the misdemeanor charge against teacher Barb Williams thrown out. They’re calling for a new investigation and new charges by a different law enforcement agency.

Jim Williams, a pastor in Mount Blanchard, is one of five chaplains for the Hancock County Sheriff’s Office. The Facebook page also says he’s part of the county’s stress management team which helps firefighters and law enforcement officers.

Hancock County Sheriff Michael Heldman denies the allegations.

The deputy who handled the case doesn't even know Jim Williams because he {Williams} works with the jail side of it,” says Heldman. “I don't see where there is any connection whatsoever."

http://www.13abc.com/story/25684989...flict-of-interest-calls-for-new-investigation

 

[K_Z]

Mt. Blanchard residents sound off on Riverdale teacher charge

Mt. Blanchard native Bob Bennett says he's surprised and disappointed by the charge. Bennett is a friend of teacher’s husband.

“I think it was just a situation, where she’d put up with it and put up with it and finally she snapped,” Bennett said.

Some of Williams’ neighbors are still standing up for her, despite an online petition with more than 2,600 signatures demanding that she be fired.

No court date has been set yet.

The Nelson family’s attorney says there are no plans for a lawsuit.

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=1052535#.U46RJelOUqQ

 

[JeannaT]

I do agree with the parent in the video, that if she's willing to resign, let her resign. In any case, she shouldn't return to the school next year and it seems highly unlikely that she will - however that is achieved.

 

[zippitydoda]

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=1052535#.U49Ht3aaIVd

Mt. Blanchard native Bob Bennett says he's surprised and disappointed by the charge. Bennett is a friend of teacher’s husband.

“I think it was just a situation, where she’d put up with it and put up with it and finally she snapped,” Bennett said.

IMO - its easy to think this way and makes excuses when its a friend, and its not your six year old child.

 

[blue22]

Out of curiosity, have there been any reports of her family defending her? Husband, children, anyone?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=1052535#.U46RJelOUqQ

PUT up with what?!!! a Kindergartner? Oh the horror!!!

These people all need reality checks.. Let her babysit their kids.

 

[JeannaT]

Out of curiosity, have there been any reports of her family defending her? Husband, children, anyone?

She and her family have all been publicly silent. She had a lawyer pretty quickly, and he has spoken on behalf of the family saying there will be no statements and anything said will be said in court.

 

[screecher]

Holy crap. Barbara Williams had him in the bathroom for over TWO mins. What the hell did she do to him??? OMG.


"...the teacher takes him into the bathroom for two and a half minutes, that's a felony...."

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/...should-have-gone-to-grand-jury?autostart=true

 

[Linda7NJ]

Holy crap. Barbara Williams had him in the bathroom for over TWO mins. What the hell did she do to him??? OMG.


"...the teacher takes him into the bathroom for two and a half minutes, that's a felony...."

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/...should-have-gone-to-grand-jury?autostart=true

Omg, I feel sick.


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[MyBelle]

Holy crap. Barbara Williams had him in the bathroom for over TWO mins. What the hell did she do to him??? OMG.


"...the teacher takes him into the bathroom for two and a half minutes, that's a felony...."

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/...should-have-gone-to-grand-jury?autostart=true

His head made contact with the wall, his neck is dangerously extended as though he's being whip-lashed. I agree with the attorney that this should have gone to a Grand Jury.

 

[gitana1]

She and her family have all been publicly silent. She had a lawyer pretty quickly, and he has spoken on behalf of the family saying there will be no statements and anything said will be said in court.

Which is probably the best policy. Nothing they say can really help right now. It can only hurt her case.

Holy crap. Barbara Williams had him in the bathroom for over TWO mins. What the hell did she do to him??? OMG.


"...the teacher takes him into the bathroom for two and a half minutes, that's a felony...."

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/...should-have-gone-to-grand-jury?autostart=true

To say that's kidnapping is a massive, massive stretch. IMO, no way would the DA charge her with that. Teachers are able to control the movements of their students within campus, to a large degree:

Kidnapping is the crime of taking a person against their will to an undisclosed location. This may be done for ransom or in furtherance of another crime, or in connection with a child custody dispute. Ohio classifies kidnapping into two categories: first degree and second degree.
According to the laws of Ohio, a person is guilty of kidnapping if any person, by force, threat, or deception, or, in the case of a victim under the age of thirteen or mentally incompetent, by any means remove another from the place where the other person is found or restrain the liberty of the other person, for any of the following purposes:

• To hold for ransom, or as a shield or hostage;
• To facilitate the commission of any felony or flight thereafter;
• To terrorize, or to inflict serious physical harm on the victim or another;
• To engage in sexual activity, as defined in section 2907.01 of the Revised Code, with the victim against the victim’s will;
• To hinder, impede, or obstruct a function of government, or to force any action or concession on the part of governmental authority.

If any person, by force, threat, or deception, or, in the case of a victim under the age of thirteen or mentally incompetent by any means knowingly do any of the following is also guilty of kidnapping:

• Restrain another of the other person’s liberty;
• Hold another in a condition of involuntary servitude.

If such kidnapping creates a substantial risk of serious physical harm to the victim, it is a felony of the first degree and the offender shall be sentenced to an indefinite prison term consisting of a minimum term of fifteen years and a maximum term of life imprisonment. If the offender releases the victim in a safe place unharmed, such kidnapping is a felony of the second degree and such the offender shall be sentenced to an indefinite term consisting of a minimum term of ten years and a maximum term of life imprisonment.
- See more at: http://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state...idnappingabducting-laws/#sthash.GxWOvlDO.dpuf

Also, as much as I am horrified by the abuse this woman inflicted on her very young charge, my feeling, based on internet chatter, is that she forced him to the bathroom to make sure he actually went, didn't make a mess and couldn't, five minutes later, claim he needed to use the bathroom again.

I don;t think she was necessarily hitting, pinching or otherwise being physically abusive in the bathroom, but she likely continued her verbal abuse there.
http://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state...idnappingabducting-laws/#sthash.GxWOvlDO.dpuf

 

[believe09]

Holy crap. Barbara Williams had him in the bathroom for over TWO mins. What the hell did she do to him??? OMG.


"...the teacher takes him into the bathroom for two and a half minutes, that's a felony...."

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/...should-have-gone-to-grand-jury?autostart=true

Grand Jury would be a good choice.

 

[Sonya610]

Who in the blue heck would support her for this?! If she has done this once Odds are she has done it before. Thank goodness for cameras!!!

I do think she has done this before! If not to this kid then to others!

Reason I say that is because if this was the FIRST time she got physical at most kneeling down and taking him by the shoulders and using a quiet/deep and intimidating tone of voice would have seemed appropriate and could quite possibly scare the daylights out of him.

The kid was cringing and appeared to be afraid yet she KEPT going, KEPT on by grabbing his face/neck, releasing, grabbing him by the shirt, releasing, etc...

I am not the most soft hearted and I am often on the sides of the teacher but that was way over the top, the kid was NOT physically threatening her or anyone else.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I do think she has done this before! If not to this kid then to others!

Reason I say that is because if this was the FIRST time she got physical at most kneeling down and taking him by the shoulders and using a quiet/deep and intimidating tone of voice would have seemed appropriate and could quite possibly scare the daylights out of him.

The kid was cringing and appeared to be afraid yet she KEPT going, KEPT on by grabbing his face/neck, releasing, grabbing him by the shirt, releasing, etc...

I am not the most soft hearted and I am often on the sides of the teacher but that was way over the top, the kid was NOT physically threatening her or anyone else.

I have teachers in my family and I make sure that my children respect their teachers and know that I do too. But, But, But. If any teacher ever put their hands on my child, All bets are off.

I believe that teachers often get a raw deal but teachers like this, Make it harder on the good ones.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I do agree with the parent in the video, that if she's willing to resign, let her resign. In any case, she shouldn't return to the school next year and it seems highly unlikely that she will - however that is achieved.

what? LET her resign?/ NO WAY! Kick her out and take that pension too. She assaulted someone. If he was 18 she would be in jail but apparently you can beat up on kindergartners and choose to leave??

UH NO!!.

 

[blue22]

Which is probably the best policy. Nothing they say can really help right now. It can only hurt her case.



To say that's kidnapping is a massive, massive stretch. IMO, no way would the DA charge her with that. Teachers are able to control the movements of their students within campus, to a large degree:
Also, as much as I am horrified by the abuse this woman inflicted on her very young charge, my feeling, based on internet chatter, is that she forced him to the bathroom to make sure he actually went, didn't make a mess and couldn't, five minutes later, claim he needed to use the bathroom again.

I don;t think she was necessarily hitting, pinching or otherwise being physically abusive in the bathroom, but she likely continued her verbal abuse there.
http://kidnapping.uslegal.com/state...idnappingabducting-laws/#sthash.GxWOvlDO.dpuf

She was a grown woman watching and making sure a child of the opposite sex unrelated to her urinated? That is really weird, creepy, aggressive, and wrong. I don't see how that isn't also a crime. If a man forced me in the bathroom and stood there as I peed...I think my parents would be more enraged over that, than assaulting me in a public hallway.

 

[MyBelle]

She was a grown woman watching and making sure a child of the opposite sex unrelated to her urinated? That is really weird, creepy, aggressive, and wrong. I don't see how that isn't also a crime. If a man forced me in the bathroom and stood there as I peed...I think my parents would be more enraged over that, than assaulting me in a public hallway.

I agree with you. It is very wrong, especially if the child had been having problems urinating in the past. Anybody knows you can't force a child to pee on command. This woman laid her hands on the child and shakes him. He appears absolutely terrified of her in the hallway, I can only imagine what happened in the bathroom.

JMO