Found Deceased OH - Bryon Macron, 45, Lafayette Township, 15 Dec 2016

[Betty P]

Hi, Betty P. I was under the impression that the Ohio Supreme Court ruled against Dewine. Do you have a link to that ruling? I remember after the ruling, media reviewed what I thought were the autopsies in the Rhoden case. But I might be mistaken. TIA for helping me clear up my confusion.

Slight correction, they ruled in DeWine's favor. The lawsuits concerned the ability of news media to continue to have access to view unredacted final autopsy reports. That ruling against the newspapers still stands.

Public Docket

Public Docket

At the time of the Wagner arrests, the court was asked whether the ruling also applied to unredacted preliminary autopsy reports. The court ruled in favor of allowing the news media to view the preliminary ARs. Assume DeWine did this when they were ready to arrest the Wagners to make it easier for the public to understand how the murders happened. Most news reporters didn't make the distinction between the two types of reports at the time. Here's one newspaper that did get it right

Ohio Supreme Court allows newspapers to review Rhoden family preliminary autopsy reports

As of today, unredacted final autopsy reports can't legally be released to the news media. Hope this clears things up. That can probably change easily, considering DeWine's son serves on the Ohio Supreme Court and it operates differently than the US Supreme Court.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Thank you, HumbleOpinion! I really appreciate you reaching out to the ABJ!

Any news, @HumbleOpinion?

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Any news, @HumbleOpinion?

Let me check and get back.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Let me check and get back.

Thank you!

 

[chimpface]

Any news?

Either this was a really hare-brained investigation or there is a cover up going on.

Edit: It seems there have been a few explosive blog posts recently, I would certainly recommend checking them out. There's even a hint at the identity of one of the murderers.

 

[Betty P]

Any news?

Either this was a really hare-brained investigation or there is a cover up going on.

Edit: It seems there have been a few explosive blog posts recently, I would certainly recommend checking them out. There's even a hint at the identity of one of the murderers.

Well, that's interesting. It sounds like a realistic scenario, though murder seems an extreme way to avoid getting into trouble.

Also, wasn't there a news article a couple years ago about Ohio's BCI taking over the investigation? Has anyone (including Mr. Macron's wife) considered scheduling a meeting with someone at BCI or with AG Dave Yost?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Any news?

Either this was a really hare-brained investigation or there is a cover up going on.

Edit: It seems there have been a few explosive blog posts recently, I would certainly recommend checking them out. There's even a hint at the identity of one of the murderers.

How can I find the blogposts? Can you give the bloggers name/screen name? I can take it from there. Thank you.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Upcoming podcast on the Macron case.

 

[chimpface]

How can I find the blogposts? Can you give the bloggers name/screen name? I can take it from there. Thank you.

Sure.

Google "medina corruption" its the first link that comes up. It's not just related to this case just corruption in the county in general.

 

[JRamirez]

‎Invisible Ships podcast: Six Stab Wounds on Apple Podcasts

 

[JRamirez]

Plenty of information on the podcast about Bryon, his family and the Trustees. Interesting info on a natural gas pipeline that was being built and was quite contentious among residents. Because it created “incineration” zones it lowered property values and was obviously unsafe. It sounds as if the pipeline was railroaded through the township when it could have been diverted further south along a safer, more rural route. The podcast explained that a few residents benefitted financially if a compressor station was built on their property. It would be interesting to see who had a compressor station built on their property and if that had anything to do with Bryon.

 

[Betty P]

‎Invisible Ships podcast: Six Stab Wounds on Apple Podcasts

Thanks for this link. Will listen this afternoon. Sounds like the kind of thing that might have led to Bryon's problems. Amazing how quiet this case has gone. Everyone seems to want to sweep this under the rug.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Plenty of information on the podcast about Bryon, his family and the Trustees. Interesting info on a natural gas pipeline that was being built and was quite contentious among residents. Because it created “incineration” zones it lowered property values and was obviously unsafe. It sounds as if the pipeline was railroaded through the township when it could have been diverted further south along a safer, more rural route. The podcast explained that a few residents benefitted financially if a compressor station was built on their property. It would be interesting to see who had a compressor station built on their property and if that had anything to do with Bryon.

AFAIK, nobody wanted the pipeline. That goes for people in the rural areas too. It seems highly dangerous and caused quite the hubbub. Well, the dangers seem rather minor now against the backdrop of COVID. It would be very interesting to see who profited most and who lost most on the deal. Going to listen to the podcast to learn more.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

That presser from Cetner is one of the most bizarre pressers I've ever heard! He makes a point to report/allege that Brian had incurred a large amount of debt and had been engaging in odd behavior that his family wasn't aware of, but he immediately changes course and says that he won't comment on the alleged behavior. What!?!? Then why bring it up at all?

The statement is strange all the way around. It's out of place and, imo, should not have been included in a presser. It doesn't match the overall tone of the investigation or reporting. They've been beyond stingy with details, but Cetner makes this huge disclosure right in the middle of the presser? Sounds to me like an obvious attempt to try to get out in front of the (real) story. MOO

 

[JRamirez]

That presser from Cetner is one of the most bizarre pressers I've ever heard! He makes a point to report/allege that Brian had incurred a large amount of debt and had been engaging in odd behavior that his family wasn't aware of, but he immediately changes course and says that he won't comment on the alleged behavior. What!?!? Then why bring it up at all?

The statement is strange all the way around. It's out of place and, imo, should not have been included in a presser. It doesn't match the overall tone of the investigation or reporting. They've been beyond stingy with details, but Cetner makes this huge disclosure right in the middle of the presser? Sounds to me like an obvious attempt to try to get out in front of the (real) story. MOO

I agree that his comments were not only strange, but inappropriate. Clearly he was trying to smear his character and deflect from the way the case was botched from the get go. The podcast reveals, clearly, that Macron was an upstanding citizen and all around good guy that people respected. Centner, on the other hand, somehow fell uphill into a better position in another community. In what other profession is this conduct and ineptitude rewarded?

 

[JRamirez]

Thanks for this link. Will listen this afternoon. Sounds like the kind of thing that might have led to Bryon's problems. Amazing how quiet this case has gone. Everyone seems to want to sweep this under the rug.

I agree on how quiet things have gone, but what's interesting is the audio from the local pub. Everyone questioned is vociferous in there opinion that it's a fishy situation and there's more to the story than they were led to believe. Clearly people chose not to forget and are hungry for more information. If future episodes of the podcast are as good as the first, they may get their wish.

 

[JRamirez]

AFAIK, nobody wanted the pipeline. That goes for people in the rural areas too. It seems highly dangerous and caused quite the hubbub. Well, the dangers seem rather minor now against the backdrop of COVID. It would be very interesting to see who profited most and who lost most on the deal. Going to listen to the podcast to learn more.

Not familiar with the area but my interpretation was maybe the route to the south was through a less populated area. I wouldn't want something like that built where I lived either, rural or urban. I want to do some digging and research the routing and see if I can find the property owners information where the compressors were built.

 

[Betty P]

Not familiar with the area but my interpretation was maybe the route to the south was through a less populated area. I wouldn't want something like that built where I lived either, rural or urban. I want to do some digging and research the routing and see if I can find the property owners information where the compressors were built.

Here are some links. I'm rushing here, getting read to do chores and listen to the podcast.

This one has some info about those compressor stations

SMC

Mike DeWine was AG back then, so his office was the target of some of these lawsuits.

2017.11.09 Ruling on Appellee Waterville Compressor Station%27s Motion to Dismiss.pdf


Nexus Pipeline

Still controversy and problems in federal court over this pipeline

Court rules federal agency must revisit NEXUS pipeline approval

Map of the pipeline

NEXUS Gas Transmission (NGT) Pipeline - Global Energy Monitor

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Here are some links. I'm rushing here, getting read to do chores and listen to the podcast.

This one has some info about those compressor stations

SMC

Mike DeWine was AG back then, so his office was the target of some of these lawsuits.

2017.11.09 Ruling on Appellee Waterville Compressor Station%27s Motion to Dismiss.pdf


Nexus Pipeline

Still controversy and problems in federal court over this pipeline

Court rules federal agency must revisit NEXUS pipeline approval

Map of the pipeline

NEXUS Gas Transmission (NGT) Pipeline - Global Energy Monitor

Thank you for this. Some great info.

 

[JRamirez]

‎Invisible Ships podcast on Apple Podcasts

Episode II

Unbelievable information.