Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018 *husband suspect* #2

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  • #661
I don't believe it's a case of the general public not caring, but rather a combination of things, mostly lack of really good exposure and details.

The things that are set up to spread awareness about Cheryl don't really spread awareness but rather serve more as support or a reminder to those who already know about her case.
As an example, The green #CherylStrong yard signs. That's all the info that is on those signs. There is no photo of Cheryl, it does not say MISSING PERSON. To a passerby, it could easily be mistaken as a sign for someone who is battling liver cancer vs. someone from the community who is missing.
The main source for obtaining such signs were through Cheryl's Missing Facebook page (again, someone would already have to have the knowledge of Cheryl in order to be on the FB page) and people had to purchase them vs being donated by a local business or person, so that tends to lead to mostly family and friends obtaining signs; a small group of people which = a small # of signs.

Family and friends are often key in keeping their family member's/friend's name in the news. Organizing searches, vigils, fundraisers, flyer distributions, interviews, etc. Have any of those things happened very recently?

(*My intention is not to nitpick efforts, btw*)

Anothert thought in terms of greater or wider news coverage, which those close to her may be understandably reluctant to consider, is how news-worthy her story is currently vs. how news-worthy it could be. It has the potential to be at least a mildly salacious story, which reporters often salivate over, yet no one seems to have taken that angle. Middle aged mother drops daughter off at high school, isn't heard from again. Car found at Kroger the following day is and has been the main narrative. That grabs our attention because we follow missing persons cases regularly, but it doesn't grab and keep the attention of most people. Details such as the open marriage, Cheryl originally allegedly supporting their relationship and being friends. His taking the girlfriend and daughter to Florida instead of Cheryl, Cheryl seeing other men as well, the impending divorce he didn't see coming, GF now living in Cheryl's home. Their being coworkers, etc etc All of those types of things are what grabs people's attention and keeps it circulating in the news longer because there is a large element of drama and a marriage that didn't fit within the "typical parameters" of a marriage.

Exposure. It either spreads the word or puts more pressure on LE or both.
Though if the case truly has gone cold, not sure what could be done at this point or what more exposure would accomplish; re-examining the case, having another detective take a look, or conducting more organized searches perhaps?

Just random thoughts/opinions.
 
  • #662
Our society today is based on a principal of not being genuine in helping or caring, the majority of society does not want to be bothered, and if I do help someone outside my circle , will I get my 15 minutes of fame, money , etc....
I will use the Dayton mass shooting for example, I have been following it as concern for human life , but now that it’s turned into a political sideshow, I could care less, ....the shooting happened early on Sunday morning as I like to say “O Dark Thirty” , all I started hearing was lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit.....people are greedy, all their interested in is cold hard cash, or the people who have to get there 15 minutes of fame by finding out any news agency that will listen to them, “ I was a Hero, pat me on the back...well true heroes do heroic acts not for personal gain, but for their fellow citizen , don’t brag.....

I hate to say it in Cheryls case, all the events that occurred on 2 Oct the day Cheryl disappeared, from her neighborhood, to the store parking lot, and after rereading our posts for about a thousand times, and other than the witness calling in the suspicious black hoodie incident, these areas are busy, and I will stand by my beliefs that the majority of JohnQ Public will use the old thought process, ( ex.. when the cable/internet goes out in your neighborhood, they won’t call it the outage , because they think someone else will) the same goes for crime reporting, not wanting to be involved, fear, don’t want to speak to police, don’t want to testify in court, all that stupid crap....

And I hate to say it ,I think the family was not fully engaged with the public or media to help find her, probably afraid that the dirty laundry we have been mentioning from coming out.....

I am not sure what LE is going to do at the one year mark of disappearance, I do remember a post on our site about declaring her dead, but other than that the police and prosecutors office have nothing, I think they put too much stock into the Texas Eqqusearch searches and that one news conference about the black hoodie and naming him a suspect, I think they thought these actions would have shaken the tree for new evidence that never happened..

I see the Coker case as of today, the file encased in a block of ice, so unless our suspect has a conscience and comes foreword, or her body is delivered to the police station, this case is closed.....sure the police make there monthly statement about the case, that they are working it , but I see those words as empty form letter.......my opinion...
 
  • #663
And I hate to say it ,I think the family was not fully engaged with the public or media to help find her, probably afraid that the dirty laundry we have been mentioning from coming out.....

I agree with this statement, and the reason you have listed. One reason I suggested that sharing the story from a different angle may have been helpful in terms of more coverage time-wise, geographically or both.

On another note, I'm sure this was probably discussed previously but I don't remember; was there a history of domestic violence or control in the marriage? It's unlikely that things would start at happy and escalate to murder & cover-up with nothing in-between. New girlfriend is still relatively new- "honeymoon" phase of a relationship. Perhaps if his mask comes off again, she might talk at some point.
 
  • #664
I can bet one thing if there was a reward offered in Cheryl’s case , the detectives telephone would be ringing off the hook, because today’s society any help or assistance comes with a price......

I have a weird theory, a couple postings ago, it was mentioned Cheryl and the girlfriend knew each other, and encouraged William to hook up with the GF......is there any wild chance that the three of them concocted a plan ,where Cheryl just voluntarily planned her own disappearance , with the help of William and the GF, so these two can be together and Cheryl starts a new life somewhere, is there any chance that the daughter is able to stay in contact with her mom, via burner phone....
This theory could explain why the daughter is so happy and relaxed at home, taking a friend to Florida....could explain why William is so relaxed, and unafraid.....
 
  • #665
To add to my theory above, the way Cheryl was acting prior to her disappearance a signal that she wanted out, or something different...

Sure her SUV had her personal belongings in it , but in today’s society she probably got a new identity very easy..

My theory and it’s just food for thought, could explain why the daughter seems like it’s life as normal, enjoying a trip to Florida with a friend, there are ways she could keep in contact with her mom if this theory was correct

It also sends signals why the police have NOTHING, and don’t seem to be actively looking, the search group came up zero, and like above William is living like he doesn’t have a care in the world.....

Just food for thought because other than that there is nothing else for us to discuss or investigate about with this case..... so unless some earth shattering development occurs I am done with this case, done trying to figure out nothing.......
 
  • #666
I don't believe it's a case of the general public not caring, but rather a combination of things, mostly lack of really good exposure and details.

The things that are set up to spread awareness about Cheryl don't really spread awareness but rather serve more as support or a reminder to those who already know about her case.
As an example, The green #CherylStrong yard signs. That's all the info that is on those signs. There is no photo of Cheryl, it does not say MISSING PERSON. To a passerby, it could easily be mistaken as a sign for someone who is battling liver cancer vs. someone from the community who is missing.
The main source for obtaining such signs were through Cheryl's Missing Facebook page (again, someone would already have to have the knowledge of Cheryl in order to be on the FB page) and people had to purchase them vs being donated by a local business or person, so that tends to lead to mostly family and friends obtaining signs; a small group of people which = a small # of signs.

Family and friends are often key in keeping their family member's/friend's name in the news. Organizing searches, vigils, fundraisers, flyer distributions, interviews, etc. Have any of those things happened very recently?

(*My intention is not to nitpick efforts, btw*)

Anothert thought in terms of greater or wider news coverage, which those close to her may be understandably reluctant to consider, is how news-worthy her story is currently vs. how news-worthy it could be. It has the potential to be at least a mildly salacious story, which reporters often salivate over, yet no one seems to have taken that angle. Middle aged mother drops daughter off at high school, isn't heard from again. Car found at Kroger the following day is and has been the main narrative. That grabs our attention because we follow missing persons cases regularly, but it doesn't grab and keep the attention of most people. Details such as the open marriage, Cheryl originally allegedly supporting their relationship and being friends. His taking the girlfriend and daughter to Florida instead of Cheryl, Cheryl seeing other men as well, the impending divorce he didn't see coming, GF now living in Cheryl's home. Their being coworkers, etc etc All of those types of things are what grabs people's attention and keeps it circulating in the news longer because there is a large element of drama and a marriage that didn't fit within the "typical parameters" of a marriage.

Exposure. It either spreads the word or puts more pressure on LE or both.
Though if the case truly has gone cold, not sure what could be done at this point or what more exposure would accomplish; re-examining the case, having another detective take a look, or conducting more organized searches perhaps?

Just random thoughts/opinions.

You make a great point about the Cheryl Strong signs. Never thought about it like that, but it's very true. The simple slogan doesn't educate; nor does it ask for action; it is a symbol to those that already know she's missing. Could be a cancer patient for anyone that doesn't know the details for sure, "strong" is highly associated with cancer sufferers.

I'm not sure what more can be done, either. May be too little too late. There's a lot of protecting of both the elderly mom and the young teen. A perfect storm of trying to protect both from information and assuming LE will have enough to do the dirty work. Only LE DOESN'T have enough, and Dad's not arrested, leaving it awkward for everyone involved...maybe for years to come. If relatives get vocal, it's at a cost to losing the younger teen perhaps, or to greatly upsetting the aging mother. Regardless, I'm afraid, the time to get vocal was months ago.
 
  • #667
Wyome I totally agree with your statement, but it’s a damn shame worrying about damning info coming out or lack of evidence, crimes should never be investigated along PC lines , or the content hurting family members, believe family members already knew of any negatives before but were afraid to admit it, One example the Dayton shooter, so a crime has to be investigated fully without PC content for the victim...
If this case was slowed or pieces ignored for what you mentioned shame on them.....
 
  • #668
In our families case my dad and I were extremely vocal in my moms Aunts murder case, the extended family were afraid of retaliation and the police and news coverage, this caused a serious rift in our family but we did not care, our persistent eventually got justice 30 plus years later, but my dad has long passed, the rift is still there but I don’t care, at least I can sleep at night....
So in Cheryl’s case , no matter how “dirty” it gets , justice for Cheryl comes first, period, if it’s to hard for family members , I say too bad...
 
  • #669
This case has a lot of similarities to the 2017 Krista Sypher case in Wisconsin.
Still Missing - WI - Krista Sypher, 44, Plover, 13 March 2017 *arrest*

In that case, husband and wife were also seeing other people. (Unsure if it was an open marriage or if both parties just happened to be cheating on each other, but the husband at least knew of her affair as he said she had ran off previously and used that as his excuse for not reporting her being missing sooner)

I believe a large amount of cash from the house was also reported by the husband to be missing, like in Cheryl's case.

Another similarity was that a body was never found. LE went forward with charges based on a short CCTV clip of a body-shaped garbage bag being dumped out of one of the garbage trucks at the landfill. Like in Cheryl's case, Krista has left the house earlier that morning and returned home, then wasn't seen again.

They also had children though their children went to stay with the maternal grandparents nearby. Dad moved to Illinois, so perhaps keeping the children in or at least close to their school district aided in the children being able to stay with family other than dad.

If I remember the case correctly, there was a lot of push back from family in terms of the official Missing FB page and talking about/implicating dad/the husband. Family didn't seem to be super proactive as it was a friends who ran the page and were the most outspoken in terms of getting the word out about Krista.

Many, many similarities in both the case as well as familial reactions. When a parent is a POI and kids are involved, I'm sure it makes navigating a touchy situation all the more difficult, but does make one wonder why some families choose to try to remove minors from the home and others do not.

I'm guessing Cheryl's family must feel her daughter is safe or simply don't want to rock that boat?
 
  • #670
Out of no disrespect, does anyone else on our site wonder why the minor daughter , high school age, is not speaking out on social media, the regular media, for her missing mother, I could understand if she was five,
I really believe if she was outspoken she would get the sympathy of the public to aid in finding her missing mom...
I just wish that families that are victims of a serious crime, realize that in today’s society, if there is dirty laundry involved, it’s going to come out one way or the other thanks to the internet and social media, and believe kids today will be exposed to the dirty laundry in a family on
their own or by friends...
I try to follow other cases from the towns and cities where I used to live, and I have never seen a case like, where there is barriers preventing this case from being solved...
I remember cases where the families had walks, candle lighting, balloon launches, flyers, etc....
This case the silience is deafening ....
 
  • #671
Attention followers, our area has another missing woman, 33 year old Shawna Rue Ressler,
Please look at the news article for the details, I am having trouble loading site link

This is the title of article:
Drake,Mercer, deputies searching farms, woods, for missing woman

The story is on WHIO

These counties are about 30-45 minutes from Riverside
Pleas read!
 
  • #672
Attention followers, our area has another missing woman, 33 year old Shawna Rue Ressler,
Please look at the news article for the details, I am having trouble loading site link

This is the title of article:
Drake,Mercer, deputies searching farms, woods, for missing woman

The story is on WHIO

These counties are about 30-45 minutes from Riverside
Pleas read!

Shawna needs her own thread. Darke, Mercer deputies searching farms, woods for missing woman
 
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  • #674
To add to my theory above, the way Cheryl was acting prior to her disappearance a signal that she wanted out, or something different...

Sure her SUV had her personal belongings in it , but in today’s society she probably got a new identity very easy..

My theory and it’s just food for thought, could explain why the daughter seems like it’s life as normal, enjoying a trip to Florida with a friend, there are ways she could keep in contact with her mom if this theory was correct

It also sends signals why the police have NOTHING, and don’t seem to be actively looking, the search group came up zero, and like above William is living like he doesn’t have a care in the world.....

Just food for thought because other than that there is nothing else for us to discuss or investigate about with this case..... so unless some earth shattering development occurs I am done with this case, done trying to figure out nothing.......
Keep in mind, @tooltimetim that BC could have both daughters convinced that she really took off and started a new life. I can understand why the daughter would be convinced, if you think about it. She's just a teen herself, and I am sure she was aware her parents were getting divorced- we don't know what she witnessed at home- who knows, maybe Cheryl was angry and hurt and it came out behind closed doors in front of the daughter when they fought. She may very well believe that her mother took off and that her father is innocent. What young girl wants to believe that her own father may have killed her mother?

Speaking of that- a lot of girls have rough moments with their Moms during the teen years. So Mom could be the mean one in her eyes- think about it. Cheryl wanted a divorce, she was going to move out- Cheryl's daughters both saw this was happening. The youngest may think her mother abandoned her and her father, and she could also be very angry at her mother, believing herself that she left on her own, and left her to face the rest of her high school years devastated and embarrassed- I am sure she gets some comments from kids about her father being a suspect.
 
  • #675
The above post makes a little sense to me but then it doesn’t....

I did see on a another site , the search for Cheryl , they did upload some strange postings Cheryl did in Sept 2018, on the surface they are dark and weird, sorta gives a little insight on a troubling soul...

Reading all the other sites really stops and makes you think that just maybe she voluntarily set this all up , for some kinda mid life crisis
 
  • #676
The above post makes a little sense to me but then it doesn’t....

I did see on a another site , the search for Cheryl , they did upload some strange postings Cheryl did in Sept 2018, on the surface they are dark and weird, sorta gives a little insight on a troubling soul...

Reading all the other sites really stops and makes you think that just maybe she voluntarily set this all up , for some kinda mid life crisis
I'm just saying that she's a teen. Teens think differently than us adults. When I think of how naive and gullible I was back then- I could see this being the case with their daughter. None of us know if they fought in front of her- there could have been a lot of arguments and anger going back and forth, and Cheryl may have in this case came out the bad person in her daughter's eyes, just because most teen girls love their Daddies and have issues with Mom. Dads tend to let the little girls get away with more, where as Mom steps in and says "oh no, you're not!". I had my Dad wrapped around my little finger. Boys do with their Moms.

Denial is also blissful in some things in life. It could be, too, that she would rather believe that her mother took off on her own and is alive and ok, then the alternative. At least she would still have a living Mom.

We see it differently and believe something bad happened to Cheryl. There have been rare cases where missing people have shown up months or a year or so later, alive and ok. I don't believe that is the case here, but it would be nice if Cheryl did come home alive.
 
  • #677
I do agree with you, teens are basically pains in the 🤬🤬🤬 adults on training wheels....

I have been reviewing the other sites, that are looking for Cheryl similiar to ours, and a larger part of me as of today is starting to believe Cheryl orchestrated her own disappearance....
The part that was nagging me the most was the morning she returned from dropping her daughter off at school,

My theory is when she returned to the home she made some electronic messaging according to police records, then the issue of William messing or “working” on Cheryl’s work vehicle..

My theory is there was nothing wrong with that vehicle, it was preplanned staged so the vehicle has to be towed......

But.... in my theory, Cheryl hid in the vehicle, the vehicle gets towed, dropped off, she meets someone who assists her in restarting her life...

I kept driving my self nuts wondering how they got her body out, in my theory she wasn’t dead, and moved forward with the plans..

Then William, in this theory is only guilty of a sloppy coverup....
 
  • #678
A update authorities think they found the body of Shawna, the missing woman mentioned above, they found a car that crashed down a steep ravine in heavy woods, just awaiting confirmation of identity
 
  • #679
I my post above where I had a theory that Cheryl staged her own disappearance, I was wondering when the towing company picked up the work vehicle I wonder if there was any surveillance cameras at the garage, or workplace, just to see if anyone that were hiding in the vehicle got out ,

I know my theory seems far- fetched, but for as weird as this case is ,
it is possible, I ran this theory by my sister who is a para-legal, she stated that this theory could be reality, she also added , she could write a book on the deceptions, and weird plans and methods , to disappear to “start-over”, that getting a “new” life is fairly common.....but it comes with a risk, legally, the individual would be looking at some serious prison time
 
  • #680
I do agree with you, teens are basically pains in the 🤬🤬🤬 adults on training wheels....

I have been reviewing the other sites, that are looking for Cheryl similiar to ours, and a larger part of me as of today is starting to believe Cheryl orchestrated her own disappearance....
The part that was nagging me the most was the morning she returned from dropping her daughter off at school,

My theory is when she returned to the home she made some electronic messaging according to police records, then the issue of William messing or “working” on Cheryl’s work vehicle..

My theory is there was nothing wrong with that vehicle, it was preplanned staged so the vehicle has to be towed......

But.... in my theory, Cheryl hid in the vehicle, the vehicle gets towed, dropped off, she meets someone who assists her in restarting her life...

I kept driving my self nuts wondering how they got her body out, in my theory she wasn’t dead, and moved forward with the plans..

Then William, in this theory is only guilty of a sloppy coverup....

I guess the part I don't get is William covering up for his wife hiding in a work vehicle getting towed? I don't know, but I think you're reaching. My mind goes in weird places too, but I think we need to focus on what we KNOW to be a fact.

It is a fact that there were multiple people in the marriage. I'm not saying that one of the lovers on either side is responsible. But I do wish we had more information on those SHE dated and how long this arrangement was going on. Maybe her dates weren't going as smoothly as Bill & GF's and she was desperate, depressed. She gets dark overnight and files for divorce, hoping Bill will pay some attention to her and reassure her, back off a bit on GF, but this doesn't happen?
 
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