GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

[GGE]

Take a look at mommy this is secet surveillance just before baby elaina goes missing, she holds the baby she loves the baby, you see she tells the baby don't go down that step.. you see her later on in this buckling the baby into hte stroller, making sure the baby is safely in the stroller, as she walks through the door she kisses the baby, later you see her on the porch rocking the baby, cradling the child, but now she's behind bars for endangering the child. Fred, what else do we know?

So far we just know Texas Equuesearch will bring 45 people in, staying at their own expense, these people are experts at what they do.

what do we know about Toledo skycams?

yes they are all over in high crime and high traffic areas, we asked LE about this and they said they cannot comment on this in regards to this case but we can only imagine that they must have captured something on these or maybe retail surveillance video.

What about local landfills?

We haven't heard any reports of landfills being searched and the interesting thing is these landfills are laid out on a grid so it wouldn't be any problem saying we want to search the trash from this area on this day, it would be a pretty simple procedure to go out and find that trash from that neighborhood.

 

[laniefi]

That may be true for some, but my husband had some *****ty parents growing up, and he's an excellent parent to our girls.

My dh too. He was locked in closets for days, beaten by his mom's loser boyfriends and seriously neglected.

Yet he is a great dad to our dd. He amazes me all of the time.

I on the other hand had wonderful parents and I thank God all of the time for them.

 

[cosmos]

Is this certified K-9 handler slash psychic a member of law enforcement or somebody else?

 

[carmenugt]

Sorry if this sounds rough but here goes...TES had an insider embezzling from their pocket unnoticed for no one is positive how long, just yet. Donated $'s included in that I am sure. Then their large size vehicle is stolen from a parking lot in broad daylight while more than one person ate lunch without securing the vehicles-always keep in sight.
What would be great is if wherever they need to search they can use donated equipment-great advertising for the companies donating. Plus they will be getting some insurance back won't they?
sorry for O/T

I am sure he is insured.. HOwever, as far as donated equipment.. Tim leaves within hours of being requested. With hour search , he was there within 8 hours. I don't think any company is going to donate heavy equipment at a moments notice and allow him to take it out of state and keep it for an unspecified amount of time. \
Tim provides a needed tool in the search for missng persons. In many cases, police do not have the equipment, manpower and hours to investigate for missing persons. He is a NEEDED asset. How families could afford to pay for the services he provides? He is a god-sent. IMO

 

[GGE]

Dr. Drew is starting - talking about Elaina too.

 

[ahintexas]

So she subjects her kids to filth and squalor so she can smoke!!! ullhair: SMOKE WHAT!!??

Priorities, ya know? :-/

 

[carmenugt]

OK....I just went and donated to TES. It wasn't very much....just $20.00 is all I can do right now. But I really appreciate them and all they do~and I feel bad that their items were stolen.
Praying for TES and all the searchers who work with them.

ME TOO! I posted it on Facebook and shared it to "public"

 

[OtherEyes]

Christie Edmonds with us, Steven King is staying with her, she sees him every day.

Told from steven they got up 830-9, she was playing iwth her toys, there was nothing out of the ordinary with her, she had gotten tired, he laid her on the bed angela changed her gave her a cup of juice, they both left

Respectfully snipped by me;BBM

OK, So according to Angela, when she woke up the baby had a black eye, broken nose with blood in nostril and bump on head and then according to Steven, she was playing with her toys, nothing out of the ordinary with her...RIGHT...:liar::doh:

This just makes me so mad!!!! Where is this precious little angel?! My heart is broken for this innocent baby girl. Elaina needs to be found! Praying for a successful search tomorrow with TES. lease:

 

[GGE]

Dr Drew and guests are talking about the gross living conditions, talking about if squalor is a sign of drug abuse... playing some clips ... more guests thinking there's a drug issue... Dr Drew says there's a lot of court records and "there's quite a few of them and they're all about alcohol".

Trying to decide if Angela is detoxing in jail, analyzing her appearance in the videos... one guest says maybe it's "other cognitive issues"...

now playing the clip from outside of court today...

(Dr Drew just said that's Terry in the red, but that's wrong that was RS!)

 

[momrids6]

You learn how to parent from your parents....imo

To quote myself to clarify- I meant- you either are just like them- or you are the complete opposite; you learn what to do, or not to do....and I was talking about AS & RS...

 

[beachlvr0810]

Take a look at mommy this is secet surveillance just before baby elaina goes missing, she holds the baby she loves the baby, you see she tells the baby don't go down that step.. you see her later on in this buckling the baby into hte stroller, making sure the baby is safely in the stroller, as she walks through the door she kisses the baby, later you see her on the porch rocking the baby, cradling the child, but now she's behind bars for endangering the child. Fred, what else do we know?

So far we just know Texas Equuesearch will bring 45 people in, staying at their own expense, these people are experts at what they do.

what do we know about Toledo skycams?

yes they are all over in high crime and high traffic areas, we asked LE about this and they said they cannot comment on this in regards to this case but we can only imagine that they must have captured something on these or maybe retail surveillance video.

What about local landfills?

We haven't heard any reports of landfills being searched and the interesting thing is these landfills are laid out on a grid so it wouldn't be any problem saying we want to search the trash from this area on this day, it would be a pretty simple procedure to go out and find that trash from that neighborhood.

This is exactly what I said a few days ago...I pray this is not another case like Aveion Lewis, Roanoke, Virginia...read about him...they found him in the landfill, exactly where my gut told me he would be. When does the trash get picked up where SK lives? How many dumpsters are within a 15 minute drive from the house? Was the trash picked up on that Monday? Also, has anybody looked UNDER the swimming pool?

 

[Kamille]

And where was big sister???

Toddlers don't watch themselves!!

Exactly. The King family story is not passing the sniff test for me either. We've got 5 adults who were home, two go out to the store...twice. One adult was still sleeping on the couch but was expected to hear Elaina if she was moving about after being left alone on a bed in a bedroom? Where were JK and her husband? Were they sleeping all day too, considering JK claims she went to bed about 9:30-10pm the night before? Who fed any of the children breakfast that day, including Elaina and her sister? Who was watching the older sister when AS and SK went to the store...twice? Did she go to the store with AS and SK? What about the other children in the house? Who was watching them? I do not believe that they just put an 18 month old on a bed in a room with a sippy cup and left the home and no one had seen her at all that day prior to about 1pm other than her mother. Not any of the other three adults saw or heard this child all morning? Now we hear that SK was outside playing with all the children except for Elaina? When? And why wasn't Elaina out there with them?

Nothing is adding up for me.

MOO

 

[carmenugt]

This is exactly what I said a few days ago...I pray this is not another case like Aveion Lewis, Roanoke, Virginia...read about him...they found him in the landfill, exactly where my gut told me he would be. When does the trash get picked up where SK lives? How many dumpsters are within a 15 minute drive from the house? Was the trash picked up on that Monday? Also, has anybody looked UNDER the swimming pool?

a
The pool is dirty. It does not look "disturbed." It would take some heavy lifting to lift the liner and place the baby underneath, IMO>
I think she put the baby in the trash.

 

[lonetraveler]

a
The pool is dirty. It does not look "disturbed." It would take some heavy lifting to lift the liner and place the baby underneath, IMO>
I think she put the baby in the trash.

That pool looks like a mosquito breeding cess pool.

 

[FyrKrakr]

What about the crawl space? I don't recall hearing anything about anyone checking that out. It's always possible that the dog was just a little off.

 

[GGE]

IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR STEVEN KING MAY BE RUNNING HIS OWN HORROR SHOW OUT OF THIS HOUSE.

That was the stupidest comment to be shown on the air during this case... whoever that redheaded guest of Dr Drew's is, someone needs to give her a serious talking to when she gets off the air. :facepalm:

 

[carmenugt]

a
The pool is dirty. It does not look "disturbed." It would take some heavy lifting to lift the liner and place the baby underneath, IMO>
I think she put the baby in the trash.

http://208.81.129.211/solidwaste/2013 City of Toledo Calendar.pdf

GARBAGE PICK UP DAYS ARE EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY. THEY ARE Y2 ON CALENDAR.
Therefore, if baby was missing on Sunday. The garbage pick up day was the following Wednesday

 

[palaminodee]

This is exactly what I said a few days ago...I pray this is not another case like Aveion Lewis, Roanoke, Virginia...read about him...they found him in the landfill, exactly where my gut told me he would be. When does the trash get picked up where SK lives? How many dumpsters are within a 15 minute drive from the house? Was the trash picked up on that Monday? Also, has anybody looked UNDER the swimming pool?

I have to agree with one of the guests on dr drew...the theory the baby was injured, went to sleep and never woke up.
(As you all probably know, children are not to go to sleep with a head injury/possible concussion and should be observed .)
They probably panicked and disposed of the baby that evening.
Why has the landfill not been checked?
On NG, a reporter said the landfill is very organized as to exactly where the trash goes from what neighborhood and to his knowledge it has not been checked.

just my opinion of course

where is the mom's mother? does she have a mother in her life?

 

[cosmos]

From Dr. Drew's show: Stephen King is either ex-boyfriend or boyfriend. Mother was "staying" with him and "stayed" with him before. Does that mean she lived there or was just visiting? Is that her only place of residence? Where else did she live?

 

[Meri]

Every adult in this situation is accountable. The father is no "hero." He questioned the upbringing of his children. He left the home. He did not take the children with him. He said he was "in the process of callling CPS." He had been gone for months. When I need to call CPS (work related) it takes a few minutes.
The children were being carted from house to house. They were homeless. He should have provided housing or took the children into his home. I know he did, finally. None of the adults involved put these children first. Except for the boyfriends mom.
The house was less than ideal but the boyfriends mother did not allow her to stay in the street with two children.
The mother looks severly depressed not drug addicted. IMO.

What you are saying is not how I understood the situation. TJ did have the children with him, they were not homeless. He had left the kids with Angela for a visit (he and his girlfriend were both working that evening - not sure if it was just for a night or the weekend) and was supposed to pick them up the next day when this happened. He also had told Angela not to take the girls to her boyfriend's house and she was supposed to be staying at her father's house. She did it anyway.