GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #5

[krig101]

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/07/31/tests-hair-unlikely-help-elaina-search

 

[krig101]

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=928632#.UfqjI22FaQY


Wish I could be there for this!

 

[SCHMAE]

What a class act ! UGH!
I'm so sorry FM
If he hadn't left her, you might be searching for 2 babies and not just one.
Don't let him second guess his choices for a minute. He did the right thing.
She is the one to blame. What a sniveling little ******

 

[krig101]

What a class act ! UGH!
I'm so sorry FM
If he hadn't left her, you might be searching for 2 babies and not just one.
Don't let him second guess his choices for a minute. He did the right thing.
She is the one to blame. What a sniveling little ******

Didn't he find her with SK and that is why he left? Don't blame him one bit for leaving. She should be more focused on finding her little girl rather than pointing fingers. The guilty blame the innocent. UGH!

Sniveling is right!

 

[grandmaxs6]

It was a phone visit, and they were visible to each other by computer monitors. Nothing good came of it, after just a few minutes TJ got really ticked off at her, slammed the phone down, got up and left. I guess she was trying to blame him, saying If you hadn't left me, this wouldn't have happened" I just wish before he stormed out he would have asked WHATwouldn't have happened?

I'm so sorry. She's trying make TJ feel guilty and put the blame on him and not herself, oldest trick in the book. A class act, indeed! Shame on her, one day she will answer to a higher calling and HE will tell her, "I do not know you"!

Praying...

 

[vasportsmom]

It was a phone visit, and they were visible to each other by computer monitors. Nothing good came of it, after just a few minutes TJ got really ticked off at her, slammed the phone down, got up and left. I guess she was trying to blame him, saying If you hadn't left me, this wouldn't have happened" I just wish before he stormed out he would have asked WHATwouldn't have happened?

Clearly, none of us had the warm fuzzies for Angela to start with but this really makes me despise her. I have felt from the beginning that she did this to hurt TJ and she seems to be pushing those buttons still. My heart really hurts for him. He was doing everything right yet here we are ...

 

[wendiesan]

Ferretmommy, I'm so sorry.
This is heart breaking.

TJ did nothing wrong when he cut the call. IMHO, his was the normal reaction to a sick woman's vicious blaming cycle. He did not escalate the conversation with more angry words that could later be used against him. Instead, he removed himself from her presence. He protected himself, and by extension, those he loves.

IMO, AS is projecting her flaws onto TJ, in an attempt to justify her destructive behaviour. I think that in her mind, since TJ "made her" do things, she will never face the consequences of her actions. After all, everything she did was his fault. Maybe AS can comfort herself short term with this little fantasy. JMO, but I doubt she had any intention of giving him information about Elaina no matter what he asked her, when he asked, or how he asked it. My guess is she agreed to the phone call just to torture him.

Typical selfish, emotionally abusive addict. IMHO.

I hope that the world she's built inside her head comes crashing into reality soon.

FM, my thoughts are with you. As always, your grace and faith amaze me.


The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.

 

[SCHMAE]

Ferretmommy, I'm so sorry.
This is heart breaking.

TJ did nothing wrong when he cut the call. IMHO, his was the normal reaction to a sick woman's vicious blaming cycle. He did not escalate the conversation with more angry words that could later be used against him. Instead, he removed himself from her presence. He protected himself, and by extension, those he loves.

IMO, AS is projecting her flaws onto TJ, in an attempt to justify her destructive behaviour. I think that in her mind, since TJ "made her" do things, she will never face the consequences of her actions. After all, everything she did was his fault. Maybe AS can comfort herself short term with this little fantasy. JMO, but I doubt she had any intention of giving him information about Elaina no matter what he asked her, when he asked, or how he asked it. My guess is she agreed to the phone call just to torture him.

Typical selfish, emotionally abusive addict. IMHO.

I hope that the world she's built inside her head comes crashing into reality soon.

FM, my thoughts are with you. As always, your grace and faith amaze me.


The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.

Love this , thank you !

 

[Ferretmommy]

She is Elaina's mother, she was in her care! WOW WOW WOW. This just infuriates me! :banghead:


Have you thought about visiting her? Not that it would be a better chance that she would talk but you would probably be able to stay more calm and ask her the right questions at the right time. Poor TJ. I don't blame him for storming out.

Is he going to try again?

I am so sorry Ferretmommy

Don't know if he's willing to try again, but I'm positive that she wouldn't allow me to see her.

 

[lonetraveler]

I'm getting very ticked off at these cases concerning babies. I'll leave it at that or will be put on vacation again..

I'm right there with you Whisperer. I'm at the end of my patience rope here on the missing children and unsolved children cases. Actually it has made me really pizzzzzzzed off.

 

[krig101]

ferretmommy, i'm so sorry.
This is heart breaking.

Tj did nothing wrong when he cut the call. Imho, his was the normal reaction to a sick woman's vicious blaming cycle. He did not escalate the conversation with more angry words that could later be used against him. Instead, he removed himself from her presence. He protected himself, and by extension, those he loves.

Imo, as is projecting her flaws onto tj, in an attempt to justify her destructive behaviour. I think that in her mind, since tj "made her" do things, she will never face the consequences of her actions. After all, everything she did was his fault. Maybe as can comfort herself short term with this little fantasy. Jmo, but i doubt she had any intention of giving him information about elaina no matter what he asked her, when he asked, or how he asked it. My guess is she agreed to the phone call just to torture him.

Typical selfish, emotionally abusive addict. Imho.

I hope that the world she's built inside her head comes crashing into reality soon.

Fm, my thoughts are with you. As always, your grace and faith amaze me.


The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.

amen!

 

[krig101]

Don't know if he's willing to try again, but I'm positive that she wouldn't allow me to see her.

Oh I see, so she has to OK the visitor. It makes me curious why she allowed TJ to visit her. I would think she would hide from him. JMO

Hoping LE will bring new charges to the table for SK tomorrow. He needs the fear of God put into him!

 

[SCHMAE]

Oh I see, so she has to OK the visitor. It makes me curious why she allowed TJ to visit her. I would think she would hide from him. JMO

Hoping LE will bring new charges to the table for SK tomorrow. He needs the fear of God put into him!

Well I have a guess. Shes' all alone now. Her affair with SK is clearly over whether or not either get out of jail any time soon. It's typical for a girl like her ( yes im guessing but i know girls that i think are like her ) to always want to go back to the sympathetic, kind hearted X when they are between lovers, especially if there are children involved. She was probably thinking she could hoodwink TJ into thinking it's all SK's fault and take her back, bring baby K to visit her, help her with her lawyer bills and all that jazz.. delusional !

 

[vasportsmom]

Well I have a guess. Shes' all alone now. Her affair with SK is clearly over whether or not either get out of jail any time soon. It's typical for a girl like her ( yes im guessing but i know girls that i think are like her ) to always want to go back to the sympathetic, kind hearted X when they are between lovers, especially if there are children involved. She was probably thinking she could hoodwink TJ into thinking it's all SK's fault and take her back, bring baby K to visit her, help her with her lawyer bills and all that jazz.. delusional !

I usually agree with you 100% but I think she let him visit for the sole purpose of causing him further hurt. I really think her goal all along has been to punish and hurt him.

 

[here]

If TJ agrees to talk to AS. I would suggest he keep asking her, "Where is Elaina?" over and over. His reply to anything she says is "Where is Elaina?"

 

[SCHMAE]

I agree with whoever said they should put AS and SK in touch in the jail. Leave them alone in a room for 10 minutes and record it ! Bingo ! IDK if that's admissible in court but finding Elaina trumps anything else right now.

Stay strong Ferret. You got a little fan club rooting and praying and hoping and thinking about you and your family. I wish there was more we could do. This is so frustrating for me so I know it's 10000 times worse for you .

 

[Justicejr]

She was probably thinking she could hoodwink TJ into thinking it's all SK's fault and take her back, bring baby K to visit her, help her with her lawyer bills and all that jazz.. delusional !

I'm not sure delusional is a powerful enough word for the fantasy world she lives in smh sadly enough!
Praying today something ANYTHING is said the smallest clue may help bring her home. So please SK speak the truth at court this morning pretty pretty please??? :banghead:

 

[Justicejr]

Will bring baby Elaina home NOT AS sorry if there was confusion on my above post!!!!

 

[Ferretmommy]

Waiting to hear about SK's hearing results from TS Sr. Get this-- I was told last night that MS, who is AS half-sister, is threatening to file for visitation rights to see KS. She's only a step-aunt! Not worried though, CSB doesn't want TJ to have her anywhere around RS or MS

 

[grandmaxs6]

TJ and his family really love this baby and want her home one way or another. My heart goes out to them! As I read and see all the pics on the FB page, it touches me in such a deep way. They have NOT given up and they keep on doing it every week. You just know that this is what family is all about...support, love, caring, being there in troubled times. God Bless them!

I was wondering if AS family goes to these walks and prayer vigils? Her step dad? Anyone?

still praying...

!!FIND ELAINA!!