GUILTY OH - Emilliano Terry, 3, Cleveland, 25 November 2012

[MissSunshine]

Wanted to share this from court hearing as well

Prosecutor Brian Murphy told the judge that Emilliano died of blunt force trauma to the head. His skull was fractured, according to the Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner's Office, Murphy said.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/11/camilia_terry_arraigned_this_m.html

 

[paisleyb]

Wanted to share this from court hearing as well



http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/11/camilia_terry_arraigned_this_m.html

Oh, bless his sweet heart

Those quotes in the article from her attorney and grandfather :banghead:
She is NOT a victim, sorry but no one can change my opinion on that. She can be devastated and heartbroken all she wants to be but in the end, her child ended up murdered and in the trash and she lied about it. Her own 5 year old child knows what she did, too.

 

[MissSunshine]

Here is an article about CT's life.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/11/camilia_terrys_remaining_child.html

 

[paisleyb]

IMO-These articles coming out with details about her life are interesting. I do feel for anyone who has ever been a victim of any abuse, especially coming from parents. However, here's what angers me about these articles. It takes away from the fact that she took away that chance of life for her own 3 year old son, and she put her other children in the same position she was in.

No matter what she went through during her life, she was afforded the chance to live a life with opportunities to get help for the last 20 years. Emilliano wasn't even allowed to live over 3 years and that was taken away by his own mother--this isn't something to blame on the system. This was a cold-hearted murder, a plan to get rid of a "problem" in her life, not a crime of passion.

 

[paisleyb]

WEWS NewsChannel5 ‏@WEWS
UPDATE: Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner’s Office confirms body found in duffel bag Monday was Emilliano Terry. http://5.wews.com/fGr57

 

[paisleyb]

Terry did not plea during her arraignment. Prosecutors asked for a high bond because her toddler Emilliano suffered from blunt force trauma to the head, skull and rib fractures and a lacerated liver. They claim Camilia is a flight risk.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/Camilia-Terry-scheduled-to-appear-before-judge-Thursday-morning#ixzz2DdJerpsd

geez. Bless his sweet, sweet heart. There is no doubt in my mind he's in a safer, better place. Just wish he could have had a safer place and a longer life with someone who could have shown him love.

 

[MissSunshine]

He was found in a duffel bag?

WEWS NewsChannel5 ‏@WEWS
UPDATE: Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner’s Office confirms body found in duffel bag Monday was Emilliano Terry. http://5.wews.com/fGr57

 

[nursebeeme]

well... that was no 'accident'

she beat him to death

:devil:

 

[KALI]

She beat him to death. Poor guy. This is so sad.

 

[paisleyb]

well... that was no 'accident'

she beat him to death

:devil:

Definitely not an accident, and not just one strike to him either with all of his injuries :furious:

 

[Hopeful One]

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/11/camilia_terry_arraigned_this_m.html

From the article:

Her grandfather, Lonnie Terry, said he hadn't seen Camilia for the last four years, but, "I'm pretty sure she is not capable of murder."

It always seems so silly to me when people say that. Of course most people don't appear capable of murder! "Oh yeah, my granddaughter, I always thought he was the type to murder someone. This doesn't surprise me one bit!" Huh???

And just because he doesn't think she's capable of it, doesn't mean she didn't do it.

 

[Hopeful One]

IMO-These articles coming out with details about her life are interesting. I do feel for anyone who has ever been a victim of any abuse, especially coming from parents. However, here's what angers me about these articles. It takes away from the fact that she took away that chance of life for her own 3 year old son, and she put her other children in the same position she was in.

No matter what she went through during her life, she was afforded the chance to live a life with opportunities to get help for the last 20 years. Emilliano wasn't even allowed to live over 3 years and that was taken away by his own mother--this isn't something to blame on the system. This was a cold-hearted murder, a plan to get rid of a "problem" in her life, not a crime of passion.

Exactly.

And there are thousands (more) of people who are abused in this world that don't go on to kill their children. People who have had horrible lives and horrible upbringings. Maybe if her life was so bad, she had no love therefore couldn't give it, she shouldn't haven't had kids of her own. Especially not three by the time she's 20 years old. That seems like a pretty simple solution to me. It's not rocket science, lady.

There is NO excusing away what she did. NONE.

 

[Nore]

she would get more money from the state especially if they could not find the childrens father (or rather she wouldnt tell them) b/c then she is a "single" mom and has these 3 kids. more money.

I am the mother of a special needs child. hes almost 4, non verbal, blind in 1 eye, and autistic. I cry most days - I do but right now, Im crying b/c if this child did indeed have special needs (not that it makes it any different) it hurts my heart even more. Some (like mine) cant talk, they cant express what they are feeling, he gets hurt and doesnt bat an eye..he just wants hugs and kisses. The thought of E wanting a hug or kiss from his vile mother makes me sick w/ rage.

I was really REALLY hoping she had just dropped him off somewhere. after finding all her links yesterday, she only cared about $$. and if you go to her yahoo profile she asked 4 other questions around the same time as the arm fractured one and it was ALL about her tattoos and how to meet producers to make it in the business.

Im sure, I mean SURE he was being a usual 3 yr old boy (special needs or NOT) they are a terror!!! ;p but he was doing whatever and she told him to stop. he didnt want to stop and I think she became enraged. she asked on the 21st about giving him up for adoption and thats also the last time anyone said they may have seen him -- something (i think) happened that night. he was probably dead before thanksgiving and thats why he was still in the dumpster/able to found so easily.

think about it -- if she dumped him wed AFTER trash pick up, it wouldnt have gone until TODAY. so she waited a few days to lie low and make sure all was good. THEN set her plan into motion. IF he was dead by the 21st/22nd - she sat there for DAYS thinking about how she could make it seem like he was taken.

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hlegate, You are a special mommy who has been sent a special child.:rose:

 

[rachaellouise]

I am two years younger than this woman but I would have given this little boy so much love, so many families would have. She robbed him of any chance to do better than her.

 

[Donjeta]

From the article:

Her grandfather, Lonnie Terry, said he hadn't seen Camilia for the last four years, but, "I'm pretty sure she is not capable of murder."

It always seems so silly to me when people say that. Of course most people don't appear capable of murder! "Oh yeah, my granddaughter, I always thought he was the type to murder someone. This doesn't surprise me one bit!" Huh???

And just because he doesn't think she's capable of it, doesn't mean she didn't do it.

I suppose it's shock and denial speaking. It would be hard for anyone to say, "I always knew she would murder someone" because they would have to question themselves if they could have done more to prevent it. Many people will anyway.

I think you probably would have to see someone regularly to properly assess their murderous tendencies or lack thereof.

 

[wantjustice]

I really hope that the county makes sure that whoever raises these children, they take them to counseling. Especially the 5-year-old, he is going to need it . I did read that Camilia would go to counseling and drop out and go again to someone else and drop out. I wish they could force high risk children into counseling making sure they attend every session. I think if the county and family watches over these two little guys giving them lots of love, they will break the cycle. The oldest, I am sure, will have PTSD at least. So sad for them both!

 

[vasportsmom]

I don't even know where to start. That woman is a monster but I'm pretty sickened by anyone that tries to make excuses for her. SHE BEAT A CHILD TO DEATH - A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE BOY SUFFERED A HORRIBLE DEATH - AT HER HANDS! There is no excuse or explanation for that. Don't tell me she is repeating the cycle she grew up with. Whatever happened to her, she survived it and frankly, that's a damn shame.


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[JeannaT]

Well, so what's going to be the fate of the 5 year old now? What he's seen may have set the stage for him to become horribly abusive too, when he reaches adulthood.

What's to be done here, with children who suffer terrible abuse and neglect?

I read an article (maybe it was posted here) entitled, "What if they had lived" and focused on terrible cases of child abuse - including Lisa Nussbaum and others - and sought to predict which ones would enclose themselves in cocoons and not choose to associate with people, which ones would become abusive themselves and which ones might have a chance at a successful life. It was an interesting discussion.

So, what do you do? Now we've got this 5 year old, and is he now a doomed bad seed? Can he be saved from a life like his mother's?

 

[vasportsmom]

Jeanna, you made a great post and it really is an interesting topic but I suspect it could be "a hill to die on" issue for many around here. I will just say that I think many people can sleep better at night believing that monsters are made not born and that's ok.


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[Nore]

Thanks for posting the article. At the beginning of this case, I said we would learn a lot and it appears we are.

Again, I'm not excusing her for what she is accused of but it is very clear she had some issues of her own as early as 8 years old. Wish there was a way to prevent these tragedies. There were so many warning signs but yet a child had to lose his life. I don't claim to have the answers. I'm just very saddened that no doubt there are many more out there.

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Hi n/t, This is why I get so upset.There are more out there. I wish there was a way to stop it but I dont know what it is. I was thinking it over and it seems like a visicous (sp) circle. I know from personal experience when someone thinks "out of the box" its impossible to change them. Sad and frustrating yes, they sometimes cannot be made to change. Life is difficult.:seeya: