OH OH - Katelyn Markham, 22, Fairfield, 14 August 2011 - #2

[Redgoblin]

As far as JC is concerned while he may appear suspect or confused I'm still :fence:

I think we may know a lot more if a body turns up. JMHO.

 

[april_showers]

Disclaimer: I am still very on the fence, but suspicisions are starting to lean a bit...

With that being said, I wanted to play devil's advocate for a moment (really I'm just bored at work and trying to kill my last 40 mins, but who's here to judge? ). Let's say for a sec that JC is truly innocent of any foul play - and perhaps just guilty of being an irresponsible stoner. A lot of these fumblings and bumblings could be attributed to the fact that he's just trying to cover up his habits for the day. Having done nothing wrong, and not wanting to appear as a total slacker to LE, it wouldn't be that weird to try to hide that you stayed up all night getting high and then slept all day while your girlfriend was supposed to be off working her tail off. And so, the 4pm wake up becomes "oh, I texted her this morning." The being so stuck in your own little world that you don't even notice something's wrong until that night becomes "uh, yeah... I worried all day, but..."

In the context that he might not have been certain that something really was wrong (and may have even been a bit embarassed to call 911 & speak to LE, if she ended up say, at an art show she'd already told him 20 times she was going to), it doesn't seem all that odd that he'd gloss over facts about his day to just seem slightly more engaged, responsible, etc. After all, if something is wrong, you want LE to take you seriously, and not view you as some overanxious stoner who misplaced his girlfriend again.

The problem is, something was wrong. And now you have the entire world, Nancy Grace, facebook lurkers, and people like me - who are too excited about happy hour out in the sun to get any work done - picking apart your every move, and of course realizing the timelines and stories you gave don't add up at all. Odd? Yes. Overly suspicious? I'm not sure.

And again, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I still think JC has done some pretty suspicious things. For me, though, the fact alone that he appears to be operating on stoner time isn't necessarily one of them.

JMO.

ETA: none of this relates to any of my own frustrations or experiences with former stoner boyfriends. I swear. =)

 

[cluciano63]

I do hope TES finds her, this is the best chance for her to be found, as far as I concerned. If she isn't, the questions will linger. He may be compelled, if guilty, to confess if she is found, but there isn't much incentive to do so, if she is not.

 

[JeannieC]

Bones are that of an animal:


http://www.fox19.com/story/15377092/police-investigate-discovery-of-bones-on-kenton-co-farm

Can we have a moment of raying: for the :turkey:

 

[cluciano63]

Look, my husband works graveyard and is absolutely unaware of what the regular world does during daylight hours. He would sound like a complete moron in a case like this, as even though I am disabled and do not get out that much, I do come and go sometimes while he is sleeping during the day and he doesn't even know I have done so. He would never remember what I was wearing the last time he saw me, and probably not even the time when he last saw me. We don't text each other, just email when he is at work at night, but overall, he would come off sounding totally unbelievable, not to mention probably stupid...so I will give JC a little bit of a break until more is known.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Okay - I am really confused now. Someone listen to this and tell me if she said they are really not searching tomorrow now or if my fever has me hearing things.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/29047383/detail.html

 

[Kamille]

Can we have a moment of raying: for the :turkey:

Poor turkey. Well at least his family can have some closure now. :crazy:

 

[badhorsie]

Wow...there sure are a lot of us. Okay so how many of us will fess up to the fact that we had in fact started seeing someone else that no one knew about prior to the break up? :blushing:

Oh yes, I did this, I married him and we are still together. It was complicated and horrible, I was under so much pressure from everyone to stay with my school sweetheart as we had been together so long, I left town to be with my future husband.
I knew for a long time it was over but hated hurting sweetheart.

BTW school sweetheart is a very wealthy man now

 

[cluciano63]

He says they won't search more tonight...too hot and covered a lot of ground today.
NO searches tomorrow...
Could not hear the reason?

 

[scofieldx]

Disclaimer: I am still very on the fence, but suspicisions are starting to lean a bit...

With that being said, I wanted to play devil's advocate for a moment (really I'm just bored at work and trying to kill my last 40 mins, but who's here to judge? ). Let's say for a sec that JC is truly innocent of any foul play - and perhaps just guilty of being an irresponsible stoner. A lot of these fumblings and bumblings could be attributed to the fact that he's just trying to cover up his habits for the day. Having done nothing wrong, and not wanting to appear as a total slacker to LE, it wouldn't be that weird to try to hide that you stayed up all night getting high and then slept all day while your girlfriend was supposed to be off working her tail off. And so, the 4pm wake up becomes "oh, I texted her this morning." The being so stuck in your own little world that you don't even notice something's wrong until that night becomes "uh, yeah... I worried all day, but..."

In the context that he might not have been certain that something really was wrong (and may have even been a bit embarassed to call 911 & speak to LE, if she ended up say, at an art show she'd already told him 20 times she was going to), it doesn't seem all that odd that he'd gloss over facts about his day to just seem slightly more engaged, responsible, etc. After all, if something is wrong, you want LE to take you seriously, and not view you as some overanxious stoner who misplaced his girlfriend again.

The problem is, something was wrong. And now you have the entire world, Nancy Grace, facebook lurkers, and people like me - who are too excited about happy hour out in the sun to get any work done - picking apart your every move, and of course realizing the timelines and stories you gave don't add up at all. Odd? Yes. Overly suspicious? I'm not sure.

And again, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I still think JC has done some pretty suspicious things. For me, though, the fact alone that he appears to be operating on stoner time isn't necessarily one of them.

JMO.

ETA: none of this relates to any of my own frustrations or experiences with former stoner boyfriends. I swear. =)

I actually think this as well. Personally, I don't think JC is involved, but his description of events is.... well.... off. But what I find odd is this.... Assuming JC had nothing to do with this at all, On a Saturday night/ early Sunday, with a festival nearby, in a housing complex, NO ONE saw or heard ANYTHING? At all? (That has been released, that is) In that case, whoever is involved got either extremely lucky, is a very smart planner, or we are missing something. Just my two cents.

 

[JeannieC]

Oh yes, I did this, I married him and we are still together. It was complicated and horrible, I was under so much pressure from everyone to stay with my school sweetheart as we had been together so long, I left town to be with my future husband.
I knew for a long time it was over but hated hurting sweetheart.

BTW school sweetheart is a very wealthy man now

But he doesn't have you!

 

[Redgoblin]

Oh yes, I did this, I married him and we are still together. It was complicated

My first sweetheart did the 'nasty' to me which ended our relationship I was very much a possessive and jealous person and she was pulling away. I was in my 20s

When she told me she was seeing someone else I totally freaked out shouting and balling at her, and I didn't know I had it in me.

Looking back on it now I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't seeing anyone else but wanted different things and could see that I was too close to her (in a bad way) and wanted to save herself as well as me....

Now that I'm an adult close to 40 who has been married, divorced but is now happy, I can see it for what it was.

I wonder if this is the case for JC and he reacted badly in some way. Perhaps she wanted to save him knowing that in his present state he was too immature to move forward?

I'm still on the fence for now, but it makes you wonder.

 

[sreshowtime]

I don't want to be a party pooper, but this is labor day weekend- may be hard to get volunteers.

Wonder if maybe there are going to be some 'private' searches lead by TES tomorrow in lieu of the public search?

 

[cluciano63]

It would be a huge coincidence to me if someone else managed to get Katelyn between midnight and the next morning, after a night of having documents burned (at her behest, so he says) and having their time together coming to an end with a photo of her on his phone...just all very odd. But maybe this is a normal Sat. night. for them, who knows? The thing is, why did her papers HAVE to be burned that night, when he was going to burn his on another night very soon? WTF is all this burning about anyway? Air pollution, anyone?

 

[Jo in Calif]

He says they won't search more tonight...too hot and covered a lot of ground today.
NO searches tomorrow...
Could not hear the reason?

Have to do more recon, whatever the heck that is, on the other areas they haven't touched yet.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I don't want to be a party pooper, but this is labor day weekend- may be hard to get volunteers.

Wonder if maybe there are going to be some 'private' searches lead by TES tomorrow in lieu of the public search?

WEBN ROZZIE Fireworks are this weekend too - we are talking traffic deadlock.
That is Sunday - has about 600,000 people each year.

More info here: http://www.webn.com/pages/FWX.html

 

[cluciano63]

WEBN ROZZIE Fireworks are this weekend too - we are talking traffic deadlock.
That is Sunday - has about 600,000 people each year.

More info here: http://www.webn.com/pages/FWX.html

So it sounds like Saturday will be the all-out search, unless there will be some targeted areas done tomorrow without volunteers, which is what I am hoping...

 

[SilkySifaka]

You heard it right. He sent her a good morining text at 4:30 then fell asleep.

The running late was the first interview.........He sent her a good mornining text and when she didn't respond he thought she was just running late for work.

You're not confused.......he is.

I have often done that, sent a good morning text late at night to my friend who is a morning person while I was a night owl.

Like JC if I didn't get an answer at what would be their morning, assumed running for work or busy at work. Sending it late at night is because I wouldn't be up to say good morning when she woke.

 

[~n/t~]

It would be a huge coincidence to me if someone else managed to get Katelyn between midnight and the next morning, after a night of having documents burned (at her behest, so he says) and having their time together coming to an end with a photo of her on his phone...just all very odd. But maybe this is a normal Sat. night. for them, who knows? The thing is, why did her papers HAVE to be burned that night, when he was going to burn his on another night very soon? WTF is all this burning about anyway? Air pollution, anyone?

I'm still on the fence but very quickly leaning towards the obvious.

If it walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck...it's a duck....

 

[JeannieC]

I'm beginning to think she didn't return home from the festival.

Maybe she waited until they got in the car to go home to "really explode" about the money he spent.

She could have said,"That's it, I've had it, it's over".

That gives him MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY.

Just something to think about.