Identified! Oh - Kettering, Adult Male, Skeletal, Prentice Dr, 31 May 2018- Nelson Holford

[Shin Masamura]

Now that the names are out, When I saw who owned the property (Denny & his wife that lived there) I also saw a Penny Barry for that address as well. I just didnt think it was as obvious as the actual owner, like another poster stated.. he hadnt paid property tax in awhile. I would assume they would have ruled him, his wife, or anyone listed at the residence out before letting this hit the news.. am I missing something here?

 

[Gardener1850]

Now that the names are out, When I saw who owned the property (Denny & his wife that lived there) I also saw a Penny Barry for that address as well. I just didnt think it was as obvious as the actual owner, like another poster stated.. he hadnt paid property tax in awhile. I would assume they would have ruled him, his wife, or anyone listed at the residence out before letting this hit the news.. am I missing something here?

If you're missing it, then so am I....
The above links about the woman who went to check on her dad (the home owner) who was dying and refused to go to a hospital oddly make no mention on whether they found her father alive in the house with the remains after they got inside. Then they interview a neighbor who says the man was a recluse who was rarely seen. And LE simply says there were other occupants of the house living with the skeletal remains there for years. If they suspect this is the woman's father, why don't they just come right out and SAY that? Were the other occupants of the house feeding the estranged daughter a line about him not wanting to go to the hospital? Are the other people mentally ill and unable to see he was dead or pretending he was alive to keep collecting a SS check? Or is the father alive, just in ill health, and there is ALSO an unknown deceased person in the house for several years? I'm completely baffled at why they are not being clearer in explaining the situation...

 

[Gardener1850]

Oh, and also in the new links, now police are back to saying they don't know if the remains are male or female...Not sure if that is an old quote the writer threw in but it's very confusing what the situation is IMO. They seem to be implying this could the terminally ill father but I can't figure out why they don't just say if that is what they suspect.

 

[Gardener1850]

KETTERING — Two daughters said they remain in shock over what they discovered in the Kettering home of their estranged father.

What set out to be a journey to reconnect with family ended up with the discovery of skeletal remains in their father’s Kettering residence.

Danielle Barry said she does not know her father well, noting she moved to Iowa with her mother at age 8 “and pretty much I have never really talked to him again.”

Recently, “Some of his friends had called and said he was not doing well, so me and my husband drove to Kettering from New York to check on him,” she said.

Danielle Barry said she only learned three years ago that her father had another daughter, Lori Barry.

Lori Barry, who lives in Virginia, decided to bring her two daughters on May 31 for a family reunion of sorts in Kettering.

Danielle Barry said they found their estranged father bed-ridden with a tumor growing out of his chest and urine in bottles around his bed.

“There was mold everywhere, and it smelled disgusting,” she said. “There was no food in the house, and the water had been shut off for weeks. He was laying in filth.”

Danielle Barry said her family went to dinner, then came back to check on Barry, and that is when they discovered the remains.

Skeletal remains stun daughters of Kettering man

BBM, How awful! But this at least clears up that the skeletal remains are not the home owner/father. Now, who else was living there?

 

[madamx]

omg this is so confusing!... so the father is alive in rehab.. and I am assuming the skeleton would be his wife?

 

[Shin Masamura]

omg this is so confusing!... so the father is alive in rehab.. and I am assuming the skeleton would be his wife?

Still looking for more information, I see two others listed as residents there a Gladyce C Barry( wife same age, name is off memory) and a Penny Barry listed as age 60, however I would assume that his children would have mentioned in the interview that mom is no where to be found or this other potential relative. Make no sense, and if this was someone else, it would make it even more baffling.

 

[Gardener1850]

Coroner IDs remains found in Kettering home, believes man died in 2007

KETTERING —
The Montgomery County Coroner’s Office has identified human remains that had been inside an occupied Kettering house for years before being discovered earlier this year.

Coroner Kent Harshbarger’s office told this news outlet Thursday that the remains were those of Nelson Holford, 66, who lived at the residence, and died of hypertensive arteriolar sclerosis, a disease associated with cardiovascular and diabetic issues. There was no evidence of foul play, according to the coroner’s office.

A coroner’s office official added, “We have not completed the final death certificate yet, but we have an approximate estimate that he (Holford) died on October 1, 2007.”

Read MOre: Coroner IDs remains found in Kettering home, believes man died in 2007

 

[Tssiemer]

So he’s been hanging out in the walls for 10 years? If there’s no foul play (in his death) why hide him other than social security scam I guess.

 

[Gardener1850]

So he’s been hanging out in the walls for 10 years? If there’s no foul play (in his death) why hide him other than social security scam I guess.

He wasn't hidden. The bones were in a back bedroom in plain sight when the family member climbed through a window to gain entry to the house. It could still be a social security scam though. I didn't think of that. I was just thinking the house owner (the man whose estranged daughters came to the house) was very ill, not just physically, but perhaps mentally as well and perhaps never noticed his tenant died. But there were reportedly other people living there. We don't know who. They can't all have been blind or crazy, right?

 

[Tssiemer]

Oh nevermind. I don’t know where I got that he was in the walls. Must be confusing 2 cases. Still though. Weird.

 

[Shin Masamura]

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