OH - Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, fatally shot multiple times by Columbus police officer, 20 April 2021

[imstilla.grandma]

Yesterday, Columbus Interim Police Chief Michael Woods said officers received a call around 4:32 p.m. indicating ‘females were there trying to stab them and put their hands on them.’ When authorities arrived they approached the group in the driveway of a home and according to body cam footage, the teen moved toward another girl with a knife and the girl fell to the ground. She then appeared to lunge at the second girl with the knife and the officer told her to get down and then fired four shots in her direction. The officer will be investigated by the Bureau of Criminal Investigation in the Ohio Attorney General’s Office and he is on administrative leave.
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"We are not immune to what’s happening nationally," he said. "On one hand, we can only control what we can control, but there's a lot of frustration, anger and concern. It's just not related to last night but in general.’’

"Any of these deaths is one too many, and we must not be silent on the issue," he said. "We are a great country that has solved the toughest of problems. Let's commit to solving these problems that include systemic racism, policing policies and gun violence."
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[imstilla.grandma]

The 10-second clip begins with the officer getting out of his car at a house where police had been dispatched after someone called 911 saying they were being physically threatened, Interim Police Chief Michael Woods said Tuesday evening. The officer takes a few steps toward a group of people in the driveway when the girl starts swinging a knife at another girl or woman, who falls backward. The officer shouts several times to get down.

The girl with the knife then charges at another girl or woman who is pinned against a car.

From a few feet away, with people on either side of him, the officer fires four shots, and the teen slumps to the ground. A black-handled blade similar to a kitchen knife or steak knife lies on the sidewalk next to her.

A man immediately yells at the officer, “You didn’t have to shoot her! She’s just a kid, man!”

The officer responds, “She had a knife. She just went at her.”
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[margarita25]

Live PC taking place now:

 

[Inthedetails]

I am very glad they released the video quickly. That cuts down on misinformation and rumor on social media.

Yes. When I first heard the news, but not the details, I made some assumptions. The video stopped me from continuing with those assumptions. I agree it was wise to release it quickly.

jmo

 

[Deleted member 39678]

From the video that police released the only people I see being aggressive is Makiyah attacking two girls with a knife and the male who kicks the girl that had fallen down.

Police release body camera footage in shooting of 16-year-old Makiyah Bryant

 

[yahaint]

A man immediately yells at the officer, “You didn’t have to shoot her! She’s just a kid, man!”

Says the man who violently kicked one of the attempted stabbing victims in the head after she fell to the ground.

 

[tlcya]

Yes. When I first heard the news, but not the details, I made some assumptions. The video stopped me from continuing with those assumptions. I agree it was wise to release it quickly.

jmo

agreed, seeing the video my first concern/impression about LE brutality was immediately alleviated. MOO this is a justified shooting.

Now the stuff I saw in bystander videos was disappointing. Both by the bystanders (why didn't you shoot her in the knee? Why didn't you just taze her?) and some of the LEOs on scene (one had a Blue lives matter mask on and another hollered Blue Lives Matter at bystanders)

My take on the released body cam video - Makiyah had a knife in her hand and she went towards a girl who was knocked down by others and was being assaulted. Then turned and went aggressively toward another standing girl who was involved in that assault and had stepped back toward a vehicle. Makiyah's body language at that time was that of a person who meant to stab that girl (knife raised over her head ready to come in a downward motion at said girl's neck/head).

She died with that knife in her hand, not trying to protect herself from those fighting, but as a participant in the fight who meant to do bodily harm to another girl. Again just MOO but that is what I saw with my own eyes.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I haven’t studied these posts enough to state my thoughts yet. I think I’ll wait awhile so that I can post an informed opinion - I’ve learned the hard way. Experience has taught me - ignorance is no excuse. Yet another controversial thread and senseless loss of life... Breathe. Just Breathe...

 

[obripe]

She was actively trying to stab another person with a large knife. You don’t negotiate with someone in the process of attempting to murder another human being, unless you are willing to let an innocent person be killed first.

Where did you find specifics about the knife? I haven't seen any, and the footage isn't clear enough, IMO, to discern that info.

 

[obripe]

I feel badly for the girl who was killed as well. If at age 16 she was going to stab/slash another teenager surely something was absent in her parenting/guardians/upbringing that allowed her to think this was acceptable.

OTOH a 16 year old certainly is old enough to know that killing another girl is wrong.
MOO

I'd suggest that it's clear that you don't know enough about mental health to make this judgement. A manic/ disassociative/ reactive state could result in lashing out violently, even if in a rational state the person would never behave in that way. Add in an immature teenage brain and there are countless things that could have led to Ma'Kiah being in this state. That info hasn't been released AFAIK. It's not fair to assume things about the values she was taught without MUCH more info.

 

[Vail]

This makes me so %#$ing mad. Cops that don't know how to use tasers properly seem to be epidemic.

 

[Inthedetails]

I'd suggest that it's clear that you don't know enough about mental health to make this judgement. A manic/ disassociative/ reactive state could result in lashing out violently, even if in a rational state the person would never behave in that way. Add in an immature teenage brain and there are countless things that could have led to Ma'Khia being in this state. That info hasn't been released AFAIK. It's not fair to assume things about the values she was taught without MUCH more info.

Given that the fighting continued when the police officers were right there, I'm wondering if this was a foster group with some intellectual disabilities (with or without mental illness). It feels like they didn't realize they should stop fighting when it's sort of an assumption that you stop when authorities show up (yes, I'm sure people could come up with examples where violence doesn't stop when help arrives).

I could be off base completely, of course.

jmo

 

[SugarQueen]

This makes me so %#$ing mad. Cops that don't know how to use tasers properly seem to be epidemic.

What if the taser didn’t work? The officer’s goal was to save the life of the other girl, and he did that. It’s a sad case but I just don’t understand blaming the officer.

 

[IceIce9]

Given that the fighting continued when the police officers were right there, I'm wondering if this was a foster group with some intellectual disabilities (with or without mental illness). It feels like they didn't realize they should stop fighting when it's sort of an assumption that you stop when authorities show up (yes, I'm sure people could come up with examples where violence doesn't stop when help arrives).

I could be off base completely, of course.

jmo

No time for a taser. She was ready to slash or stab the unarmed girl.

 

[IceIce9]

agreed, seeing the video my first concern/impression about LE brutality was immediately alleviated. MOO this is a justified shooting.

Now the stuff I saw in bystander videos was disappointing. Both by the bystanders (why didn't you shoot her in the knee? Why didn't you just taze her?) and some of the LEOs on scene (one had a Blue lives matter mask on and another hollered Blue Lives Matter at bystanders)

My take on the released body cam video - Makiyah had a knife in her hand and she went towards a girl who was knocked down by others and was being assaulted. Then turned and went aggressively toward another standing girl who was involved in that assault and had stepped back toward a vehicle. Makiyah's body language at that time was that of a person who meant to stab that girl (knife raised over her head ready to come in a downward motion at said girl's neck/head).

She died with that knife in her hand, not trying to protect herself from those fighting, but as a participant in the fight who meant to do bodily harm to another girl. Again just MOO but that is what I saw with my own eyes.

Agree 100%.


And I am certain the family of the unarmed girl is thankful for the officer’s quick action that saved their daughter’s life.

 

[Tink60]

She was actively trying to stab another person with a large knife. You don’t negotiate with someone in the process of attempting to murder another human being, unless you are willing to let an innocent person be killed first.

As a retired RN yes I have seen a few die of stab wounds. Stabbings can very well be lethal.

 

[obripe]

What if the taser didn’t work? The officer’s goal was to save the life of the other girl, and he did that. It’s a sad case but I just don’t understand blaming the officer.

I suspect that we disagree broadly about what the role of police should be in our communities.

I'll just say what I see in this instance. Ma'Kiah appears to be behaving in an uncoordinated, unfocused way. She lunges at one girl but doesn't stab her, and doesn't continue to attack her. She instead bounces towards another girl, and it appears likely that her intent was to stab her. AFAIK she hadn't actually injured anybody. Of course her actions weren't appropriate. But they also didn't present her as a girl likely to inflict real violence.

IMO police should NEVER escalate a situation. Moving from somebody threatening to stab, to an officer shooting four times and killing, is an exponential escalation of the situation, which, IMO, without significant extenuating circumstances, would never be called for.

 

[Kaley Smith]

In this case, I don't see what other choice the officer had although I don't know why he had to shoot her four times.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Los Angeles Lakers superstar LeBron James reacted to the news on Twitter, in a now-deleted tweet, by sharing an image of the officer involved in the fatal shooting of Bryant, and wrote "YOU’RE NEXT" while hashtagging "ACCOUNTABILITY".

LeBron James now-deleted tweet targets officer in Ohio police shooting: 'YOU'RE NEXT'

*Dear celebrities: Get a second job if you have too much time on your hands. Open ears. Close mouth. Wait till more information comes out before speaking. Use your power and voice wisely.

 

[Inthedetails]

No time for a taser. She was ready to slash or stab the unarmed girl.

?? I didn't mention a word about a taser. Maybe you quoted the wrong post?