OH - Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, fatally shot multiple times by Columbus police officer, 20 April 2021

[SuziQ]

I agree. Also, in that video, she can be heard saying "I'm gonna stab the f*** out of you". She was definitely aggressive and planning on stabbing the girl

Exactly. She has no one to blame but herself.

The officer did his job and did it correctly.

 

[kittythehare]

I agree. Also, in that video, she can be heard saying "I'm gonna stab the f*** out of you". She was definitely aggressive and planning on stabbing the girl

The other thing that worried me about that was the question of why she waited until the police got there to do it, this had apparently been gong on for a couple of days.
I couldn't figure the spatial at all in the bodycams. I just could not see it.
It also happened faster than it appeared in the bodycams even though they had times, it was not until I saw the whole angle that I saw it clearly, well as clearly as I see anything in grainy footage..
Why did she wait until they got there?
It's troubling me.

 

[sds71]

From the press conference:
Speaker 9: (15:19)
Chief, can I ask you about the gentlemen who also seen in the video, he was seen kicking the girl who was on the ground? Is CPD investigating that separately as a possible assault?

Chief Woods: (15:30)
Yeah. We will have to look at that, but first, before we can talk to that person or any other individual to look at any other crime that may have been committed during this is that BCI, again, has to have that first opportunity to talk to everyone there. Once they give us information that those interviews have been completed, and that it’s okay, then we will step in and see if there are additional individuals that need to have charges filed.

16-Year-Old Ma’Khia Bryant Killed By Police Update: Columbus, Ohio Mayor Press Conference Transcript April 21 - Rev

 

[BeckyF]

I don’t think she was any stronger than anyone else her age in that state. A taser would’ve done it. It does it for almost anyone. Black people are typically viewed as stronger, bigger, more aggressive and more dangerous than anyone else in the same situation.

That being said, she was attacking someone with a knife. Protocol is deadly force to save the life of the other.

These officials would disagree about use of tasers. Recent Coverage - Court TV

 

[shotgun09]

From the press conference:
Speaker 9: (15:19)
Chief, can I ask you about the gentlemen who also seen in the video, he was seen kicking the girl who was on the ground? Is CPD investigating that separately as a possible assault?

Chief Woods: (15:30)
Yeah. We will have to look at that, but first, before we can talk to that person or any other individual to look at any other crime that may have been committed during this is that BCI, again, has to have that first opportunity to talk to everyone there. Once they give us information that those interviews have been completed, and that it’s okay, then we will step in and see if there are additional individuals that need to have charges filed.

16-Year-Old Ma’Khia Bryant Killed By Police Update: Columbus, Ohio Mayor Press Conference Transcript April 21 - Rev

Yeah, that super- duper NFL style punt kick...to a woman who has been thrown to the ground already.. in the HEAD just boils my blood. The whole scene was just violence and mayhem. In seconds. I hope he is charged

 

[imstilla.grandma]

According to Reardon’s personnel file with the Columbus Division of Police, the 23-year-old officer joined the department in December 2019. His probationary period ended in December 2020.

On forms filed with human resources, Reardon disclosed a relationship defined in the city’s nepotism policy. His father is Sgt. Ed Reardon and retired in 2020 after training more than 700 officers, according to a CPD Facebook post.
Personnel file of Officer Nicholas Reardon | NBC4 WCMH-TV

 

[Deleted member 39678]

From the press conference:
Speaker 9: (15:19)
Chief, can I ask you about the gentlemen who also seen in the video, he was seen kicking the girl who was on the ground? Is CPD investigating that separately as a possible assault?

Chief Woods: (15:30)
Yeah. We will have to look at that, but first, before we can talk to that person or any other individual to look at any other crime that may have been committed during this is that BCI, again, has to have that first opportunity to talk to everyone there. Once they give us information that those interviews have been completed, and that it’s okay, then we will step in and see if there are additional individuals that need to have charges filed.

16-Year-Old Ma’Khia Bryant Killed By Police Update: Columbus, Ohio Mayor Press Conference Transcript April 21 - Rev

Where's the public outrage in the community that this man has not been arrested yet? Why no protests?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In Columbus, Ohio, it took five hours. In North Carolina, it requires a court order. In New York City, police can wait up to a month — sometimes longer.

As the U.S. debates the future of policing, the policies that govern the release of body camera footage still vary widely across the nation, and pressure is building on law enforcement agencies to act swiftly, even if it means releasing videos before investigations have barely begun.
Release of body camera videos varies - from hours to months

 

[kittythehare]

According to Reardon’s personnel file with the Columbus Division of Police, the 23-year-old officer joined the department in December 2019. His probationary period ended in December 2020.

On forms filed with human resources, Reardon disclosed a relationship defined in the city’s nepotism policy. His father is Sgt. Ed Reardon and retired in 2020 after training more than 700 officers, according to a CPD Facebook post.
Personnel file of Officer Nicholas Reardon | NBC4 WCMH-TV

Well, I'll give them this- they got the relevant information out there at the speed of light and respect to them for that.
Meanwhile in MN several media outlets have submitted FOI's for Kim Potter's service records and are still waiting.
Ditto regarding all bodycam footage of that killing.
Just one short clip and there were at least 3 officers present!
How can they be so different?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Let me tell you, my family is LE. They are the most caring people you would ever meet. They get paid squat for the abuse and hate they receive. And now it is life threatening.

My goal is to convince them to change careers. This crummy world does not deserve my children's sacrifice.

This cop saved a black girl's life by taking down a punk. He is a HERO!

First tell your LE family thank you for their service.

Second I agree that the officer in this case is a hero. I find it surprising that someone would link a story about black people being under-treated for pain in a case where a police officer prevented a black person from having pain via a stab wound. JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The other thing that worried me about that was the question of why she waited until the police got there to do it, this had apparently been gong on for a couple of days.
I couldn't figure the spatial at all in the bodycams. I just could not see it.
It also happened faster than it appeared in the bodycams even though they had times, it was not until I saw the whole angle that I saw it clearly, well as clearly as I see anything in grainy footage..
Why did she wait until they got there?
It's troubling me.

I thought suicide by cop but that doesn't fit. The officer's presence and commands to get down sure didn't stop her viscous attacks. JMO

 

[kittythehare]

Where's the outrage in the community that this man has not been arrested yet? Why no protests?

Well there s no way to know whether there is outrage or not.
The fact is that BCI are investigating this man and I suspect whether he played any role in the fight prior to the arrival of LE.
His name has not been released and will not be released until BCI are well and truly finished with him.
Why no protests?
Well protests typically follow deaths.
I'm pretty sure the girl he appeared to kick is protesting.
We don't have the information to discuss it, only observe it and wonder what the hell was going on, what his involvement was. I'm gobsmacked she survived that kick, if his foot actually connected with her head, it looked like it did but she moved very quickly so it's possible he missed her. I'm not sure.

 

[kittythehare]

I thought suicide by cop but that doesn't fit. The officer's presence and commands to get down sure didn't stop her viscous attacks. JMO

Yeah but would her disobedience not suggest that could possibly have been her aim?
It's complete speculation on my part.

 

[SuziQ]

First tell your LE family thank you for their service.

Second I agree that the officer in this case is a hero. I find it surprising that someone would link a story about black people being under-treated for pain in a case where a police officer prevented a black person from having pain via a stab wound. JMO

Ita, I am white and have been undertreated for pain and badly treated by doctors. Heck, I have been great very badly by some people in my life. It's called people being jerks because they are jerks.

My daughter isn't Latino or half black, but she looks like it. Latinos speak to her in Spanish because of how she looks. She has never been discriminated against. She has never gotten in a tangle with the cops. It helps when you don't commit crimes. My stepdaughter is half black. She has never had problems with the police. Again, don't commit crimes. Don't try to kill people.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Yeah but would her disobedience not suggest that could possibly have been her aim?
It's complete speculation on my part.

Usually people doing suicide by cop advance on a police officer while refusing to drop their weapon.

In this case the assailant didn't seem to even notice the officer was there. JMO

 

[kittythehare]

Usually people doing suicide by cop advance on a police officer while refusing to drop their weapon.

In this case the assailant didn't seem to even notice the officer was there. JMO

I thought that was the case earlier but on the new video she had to have heard him. He was very loud, his voice was like shots firing and she ran towards the pink girl but away from him too.
It can be failing to stop what you're doing which forces him to shoot you as well as direct advancing on him.
It's probably entirely my imagination.
But she had two days to stab anybody she wanted to stab.. why wait?
Did the situation escalate suddenly that afternoon?
I wonder if we will ever know what was going on there?

 

[gitana1]

What do you think it is? Some are only fixated on the shooting of a black teenager (who was wielding a knife) by a police officer to further their agenda that police officers are gun happy assassins. Meanwhile at the same crime scene a man is kicking another person in the head and little is said about that.

I’m n out seeing anyone here saying cops are gun happy assassins. I do see people on Websleuths saying we have a problem with LE shooting Black people , or otherwise killing them, usually unarmed, and getting away with it, when there is no reason to do so.

I don’t understand how the guy kicking a woman in the head has anything to do with this. OF COURSE it’s not discussed a lot. It has nothing to do with the issue of government responsibility and accountability. Does that man have a gun he is authorized by the government to use? Is he LE? Does he have the power and responsibility of wearing a gun and a badge to protect and serve?

If not, he’s not part of the equation. That equation is that those government agents tasked with protecting society and upholding the law, who wield utmost power and authority and who have a grave responsibility, must be scrutinized as closely as possible when they are involved in a case of injury or death.

This is about the US Constitution. That thing our forebears fought and died to implement to protect themselves against government overreach and oppression.

If there’s an agenda to continue ensuring that members of our government who wield weaponry are scrutinized as closely as can be to protect the public from overreach and oppression? Count me in.

Law enforcement should not be measured against common people, especially common people committing crimes. Their responsibility to the public is huge. Their power is huge. So their behavior must be impeccable.

It confounds me that some do not understand that.

We darn well better be fixated on the killing of a teenager by LE. Armed or not. Black or not. But more so when the suspect killed is black as they are disproportionately victims of police killings.

I don’t see this is a case of police brutality or excessive force. I do see the necessity of scrutinizing this case as hard as possible.

 

[gitana1]

I don't belong to that group of whites.
Look at it yourself, see how different it is .
It's not her colour.

I don’t see her as superhuman and impervious to the effects of a taser. She was out of control as anyone trying to stab someone is. But tasers do work.

There are policies against their use though in the case of possible imminent death. So that I don’t argue with.

 

[gitana1]

Let me tell you, my family is LE. They are the most caring people you would ever meet. They get paid squat for the abuse and hate they receive. And now it is life threatening.

My goal is to convince them to change careers. This crummy world does not deserve my children's sacrifice.

This cop saved a black girl's life by taking down a punk. He is a HERO!

The post you’re replying to isn’t about that. I understand the cop’s actions here. It’s about the view people in general have of Black people. Thinking they’re superhuman so a taser wouldn’t effect them.

I think the cop here was doing his job. That being said, there are so many cases of violent whites people with weapons including those who are shooting at or in the process of killing people, who are taken alive. There is an innate sense in most Americans to view black people as stronger, more dangerous, more impervious to pain, more aggressive. That goes for all of us. It’s not a bash against cops.

I support LE. I don’t think they’re the problem in society. I think they merely reflect the population as a whole.

But I also support the constitution and believe they need to be scrutinized more than the average joe.

 

[gitana1]

These officials would disagree about use of tasers. Recent Coverage - Court TV

That links to a variety of videos. Could you summarize what they are saying?

I will say that in other western nations, cops seem to be able to stop violent and dangerous perps with a lot less force than we do here. That being said, I think we have an overall more violent culture in general.