OH - Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, fatally shot multiple times by Columbus police officer, 20 April 2021

[Marg from Oz]

Dash cam video (short) shows the girl that was knocked to the ground sitting in the cruiser with a couple comments by her.

Dashcam video Columbus police fatal shooting Ma'Khia Bryant | 10tv.com

No sound for me. Could you please advise what the girl is saying. Thanks.

 

[coffeeandacig]

My own views on this are somewhat controversial.
Not everybody comes from a sane rational family situation.
I'd like to see the educational system teaching emotional and mental education.
Lessons in how to deal with anger grief and the entire gamut of emotions and solutions..
That's just me and I have no children.
Academia is fine and it's useful but it's not the entire story.

Any and all ideas for a solution are welcome, even if I don't agree solely or in part.

 

[coffeeandacig]

No sound for me. Could you please advise what the girl is saying. Thanks.

"Briana, I wish I never tried to come to make sure everything was ok."

 

[mickey2942]

My own views on this are somewhat controversial.
Not everybody comes from a sane rational family situation.
I'd like to see the educational system teaching emotional and mental education.
Lessons in how to deal with anger grief and the entire gamut of emotions and solutions..
That's just me and I have no children.
Academia is fine and it's useful but it's not the entire story.

I taught school for many years, and pretty much, if by age 5, children are not learning basic skills and etiquette at home, nothing at school is going to change that.

In regards to cognitive thinking and rational thought process, believe me, if kids don't see that at home, they are not going to get it at school.

This young woman didn't learn that grabbing a knife during an argument is appropriate at school. So, what was going on at home? Probably at lot, considering she was in CPS custody.

 

[kittythehare]

I taught school for many years, and pretty much, if by age 5, children are not learning basic skills and etiquette at home, nothing at school is going to change that.

In regards to cognitive thinking and rational thought process, believe me, if kids don't see that at home, they are not going to get it at school.

This young woman didn't learn that grabbing a knife during an argument is appropriate at school. So, what was going on at home? Probably at lot, considering she was in CPS custody.

I meant and worded it poorly , that adding emotional development to the curriculum from a very young age might help , especially those without supportive families.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I wonder how the girl in pink would feel about a street being named after someone who tried to stab her.

Why not name it after the actual girl that was saved instead of the one that was trying to stab her?

Imo, that certainly makes more sense.

<modsnip>

It just seems no matter what they do they are still horribly vilified.

Does that really make logical sense?

Thank goodness the man has camera footage of it all too that lived right across the street. He agreed the officer made the only choice he had in order to save her life.

Jmho

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Correct. Each case needs to be looked at individually, on its own merits and facts. There are different officers, different departments/cities, different policies, different facts.

It seems that is the underlying problem with some individual cases. Many seem impatient to wait for the actual facts to come out first.

I really wish everyone would just wait until they know the facts on each individual case before they seem to immediately react.

We know that each case we discuss here is based on its own merits, and not collectively based on all other cases.

Jmho

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Why not name it after the actual girl that was saved instead of the one that was trying to stab her?

Imo, that certainly makes more sense.

<modsnip>

It just seems no matter what they do they are still horribly vilified.

Does that really make logical sense?

Thank goodness the man has camera footage of it all too that lived right across the street. He agreed the officer made the only choice he had in order to save her life.

Jmho

I'm still trying to make logical sense of posts about gun violence in the US on a thread were the assailant used a knife. JMO

 

[kittythehare]

I'm still trying to make logical sense of posts about gun violence in the US on a thread were the assailant used a knife. JMO

Deep breath and scroll and roll fast as lightening

 

[kittythehare]

"Briana, I wish I never tried to come to make sure everything was ok."

Was it the pink girl that said that?

 

[Doghairrules]

My own views on this are somewhat controversial.
Not everybody comes from a sane rational family situation.
I'd like to see the educational system teaching emotional and mental education.
Lessons in how to deal with anger grief and the entire gamut of emotions and solutions..
That's just me and I have no children.
Academia is fine and it's useful but it's not the entire story.

there are also people who have trauma in their backgrounds, often childhood trauma. It would be great if mental health resources were plentiful
Enough to treat them early because there is a lot that can be done to reduce or even resolve trauma triggers.

 

[cocomod]

In my most humble opinion, it's about time we started asking the real questions...

Why is violence looked at as a normal response to an argument? Why is the "**** life" revered? Where are the parents who teach their children, violence is never the answer? Why are there dozens of people standing around with cell phones, just waiting to upload another "girl fight"?

Something is wrong with this society, and very wrong, in certain areas of it. You can take away all the guns, but they'll just switch to acid attacks or knives or cars like in the UK and Europe.

"Per capita the UK has one of the highest rates of recorded acid attacks in the world." -ASTI.org
London's knife murders surpasses NYC in early 2018. - source BBC

Just like mental health needs to be addressed, so does the acceptance of violence as a normal everyday response.

Thank you! Agreed! Mental Health obviously, but also violence and disrespect need to be addressed!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

My own views on this are somewhat controversial.
Not everybody comes from a sane rational family situation.
I'd like to see the educational system teaching emotional and mental education.
Lessons in how to deal with anger grief and the entire gamut of emotions and solutions..
That's just me and I have no children.
Academia is fine and it's useful but it's not the entire story.

Your thoughts are great with a caring heart Kitty, but sadly they aren't based in reality. I really wish it was.

Many studies have shown bonding with the child's mother in the first three years of their lives is vital to the overall child's mental wellbeing. Loving moms show the child how to love, and be loved. The child is nurtured as they should be.

By age five they are already molded into who they are.

I respectfully disagree that teachers or even schools should have the responsibility for repairing children.

Now social workers or children in CPS can see to it these kind of troubled children receive proper mental health therapy they may need.

Teachers are there to teach, and shouldn't be overburdened with more responsibility. It's already a very hard job.

Imo,We need to remember they are the ones who have to deal with these type of children even though they aren't the ones who had anything to do with them being damaged. I really feel for the teachers.

Unfortunately for many children there is no one more important persons in all children's lives than their parents. When both parents are in the same home when raising the child it's even better for the child or children. It shows moms,and dads are vitally important. Even if living separately if both of the parents are very active in the child's life the better the outcome seems to be.

Jmo

 

[PrairieWind]

Was it the pink girl that said that?

Its not the girl in pink. Some have said its the girl that got knocked down, but I can't tell.

 

[PrairieWind]

I'm sort of surprised that we havent learned more about what the cause of all this was.

 

[al66pine]

"Crisis Officer"0n Call w 911 LE Response?

The 911 caller asked for a police officer and a crisis officer.
Maybe something happened there before and the Mobile Crisis Response Unit stopped it. The foster mother said they were arguing the day before.

@sds71 Thx for your post.
Googling "Columbus PD Mobile Crisis Response Unit" I found this Services - Netcare Access/ &
info below but I don't sense that any random 911 caller can summon a 'crisis officer' to a caller's home
Looks imo this agency may help, but not as the caller requested.
- in aftermath of crime, deaths, etc, when LEO on scene may ask this agency's assistance for others.
- ppl calling to their crisis line to talk w someone, or live/online chat.

From that website I doubt ppl can summon a 'crisis officer' along w LE, firefighters, or EMTs, like calling to order a pizza delivery to their home. Maybe another agency in Columbus can provide??? IDK. my2ct.

_______________________________________________
"Netcare is your connection to the county’s Alcohol, Drug and Mental Health (ADAMH) system, providing referrals to other ADAMH agencies for treatment services.
"We help people in a mental health or substance use crisis. We help the courts and community agencies providing professional evaluations and assessments for those who need them."
"NEED HELP IMMEDIATELY?
"In the event of a crisis, you can call crisis line or use our live chat service to speak with one of our licensed clinicians. We’re here to help." bbm
"Community Crisis Response
This team responds to: homicides, suicides, unexpected deaths, motor vehicle accidents, fires, and other traumatic events in the community where significant physical trauma or death is involved. CCR responds at the request of law enforcement, whenever the officer is concerned that family members may need extra support." bbm

 

[lonetraveler]

Was it the pink girl that said that?

No, it was the girl who was shoved to the ground and got her head kicked by the man.

 

[kittythehare]

No, it was the girl who was shoved to the ground and got her head kicked by the man.

Thank you. Site is geoblocked here.

 

[BeckyF]

I’m n out seeing anyone here saying cops are gun happy assassins. I do see people on Websleuths saying we have a problem with LE shooting Black people , or otherwise killing them, usually unarmed, and getting away with it, when there is no reason to do so.

I don’t understand how the guy kicking a woman in the head has anything to do with this. OF COURSE it’s not discussed a lot. It has nothing to do with the issue of government responsibility and accountability. Does that man have a gun he is authorized by the government to use? Is he LE? Does he have the power and responsibility of wearing a gun and a badge to protect and serve?

SBM

You are correct that WS members have not said cops are gun happy assassins. That is what I've read in comments on other MSM sites.

Focusing on the other person assaulting the person on the ground is relevant to any discussion because his actions added to the volatility of the situation the police officer was faced with IN THIS SITUATION. IMO.

 

[shotgun09]

I'm sort of surprised that we havent learned more about what the cause of all this was.

Per this article from CNN posted earlier today:

"According to Angela Moore, who cared for her, Bryant and two other girls were arguing over a messy home and an unmade bed shortly before a fight that ended in the police shooting."

//www.cnn.com/2021/04/23/us/makhia-bryant-columbus-ohio-shooting-friday/index.html