OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered - 4 Wagner Family Members Arrested #88

[Fat Old Man]

I'm thinking if it only houses 430 people, then very few of those 430 inmates are gentle.

I bet he no longer gets, a lot of alone time. The days or asking to be in isolation probably ended.

 

[courier_1]

I wonder if he was moved out of state because he was the most vocal about seeking revenge on LE and talking about busting each other out of prison.

 

[Dhighsmith]

I bet he no longer gets, a lot of alone time. The days or asking to be in isolation probably ended.

Same thoughts, sometimes question if reputation for “prison yard justice” is truly accurate as portrayed or if exaggerated from the violent details of assault as reported by MSM (online download worldwide) for attacks and murder of high profile monsters- Wikipedia lists a total of four murdered high profile US prisoners Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert DeSalvo, Whitey Bulger and John Geoghan. Suicide appears to be leading cause of death followed by Cancer and Cardiac Arrest. Another brief search showed large numbers in violent assaults associated with prison gang activity.

Guess we’ll have to wait for George to send Christmas greeting card for details on prison violence and of his first Christmas behind bars.

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Anyone else spot connection for last 3 murdered prisoners listed above?
Okay, conspiracy radar alert, is there an active avenging Leprechaun wearing Red Sox or simply a Wikipedia coincidence?

 

[Covert Operative]

Pike County convicted killer George Wagner IV no longer held in Ohio

Last November, the state of Ohio won a conviction of George Wagner IV in the 2016 Rhoden family killings. In May, Ohio shipped him out of state.

www.cincinnati.com

 

[Cool Cats]

I would think the Judge would need some time to get up to date on all this.

Transcript delay. This is from the article I posted and linked above:

Lawyers need transcripts from the fall 2022 trial of Wagner III's son, George Wagner IV, to proceed. Those documents – which Judge Corbin said would run between 12,000 and 15,000 pages – will not be ready until September.

Attorneys will then need time to review the transcripts to determine witness lists and other particulars.

"We don't have a choice" on the timing, Mark C. Collins, one of Wagner III's two attorneys, said after Wednesday's brief hearing in the Pike County Common Pleas Court.

 

[arielilane]

Pike County convicted killer George Wagner IV no longer held in Ohio

Last November, the state of Ohio won a conviction of George Wagner IV in the 2016 Rhoden family killings. In May, Ohio shipped him out of state.

www.cincinnati.com

Additionally, there is a write up included about BW3.

From the article:

One of Ohio’s best known convicted killers is no longer held in the Buckeye State.

George Wagner IV, who last year earned eight life sentences in the 2016 slaying of Pike County’s Rhoden family, is now incarcerated in the Maximum Security Facility in Cranston, Rhode Island.

He was transferred out of Ohio’s Correctional Reception Center in Orient in May, according to a database that tracks inmate movement.

JoEllen Smith, spokesperson for the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction, confirmed Wagner’s transfer out of state. She declined to provide any additional details, citing security reasons.

J.R. Ventura, spokesperson for the Rhode Island Department of Corrections, confirmed Wagner’s incarceration there but likewise declined to explain the move. “The details should come from Ohio,” Ventura said. “He’s their inmate.”





Update from Pike County.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1671837798419054592

https://twitter.com/pattinewberry

 

[OhioBlues]

Hopefully, the R family will be able to have fireworks this July 4th. They should hold their heads high.

I am glad that we could see GW trial.

That family is clearly evil but they mix religion in with it but all that ever mattered is they wanted everything their way.

They killed 8 innocent people for no reason.

 

[justtrish]

AW, the master manipulator... would the murders have even happened had it not been for her? An instigator. I don't think everything came out during trial nor will we ever know details and the truth about AW. Maybe with BW3 trial but its doubtful. Maybe I am wrong and JW wanted it done. MOO

I agree. The mother is supposed to be more of the nurturer, the soft place to land in this harsh world. She was everything but that. She was manipulative, controlling, just evil. Listening to her on all those recordings did it for me. She was trying to smooth talk the agents at the border, she was manipulating in her texts to Billy, and then we hear Jake and his wife on those recordings. Jake knows his mother is crazy and is even trying to defend Beth. I think Angela just had her hooks in too far and I don't think Jake would have turned out like he did, if it wasn't for her. Billy played his part too with all the criminal teachings and raising those boys to do what they wanted and "not get caught". I think once that plan was in motion, Jake was likely in a zone and not able to stop it because after all he was trained to believe he could get away with everything and until that night, he did.

 

[Fat Old Man]

I wonder if Jake and Angela, have been burning up the phone lines. Demanding they not be sent, out of Ohio. I think if all four would be scattered across the country. With all 3 of the men placed in the worst possible, location. Sounds like George, is in one of the worst prisons, he could be placed in. I wonder if they had a clue, this would happen.

 

[rescuemom]

I wonder if Jake and Angela, have been burning up the phone lines. Demanding they not be sent, out of Ohio. I think if all four would be scattered across the country. With all 3 of the men placed in the worst possible, location. Sounds like George, is in one of the worst prisons, he could be placed in. I wonder if they had a clue, this would happen.

IMO, they would not have any influence one way or another, would they?????

 

[Cool Cats]

IMO, they would not have any influence one way or another, would they?????

No one tells the Department of Corrections what to do. Especially them!!!

 

[altojack]

Sorry been Mia here and there, still trying to get back on track, but enjoying time of.

wow, I never thoughts George would end up in Rhode Island, he will find it real hard doing time there. I reckon they sent him there due to him being more vocal over the case. The threats he made to LE and planning a break out. I'm probably very wrong, lol but we will find out one day.

I hope everyone is well and enjoying life.

 

[Seattle1]

Ohio’s worst killer, George Wagner is no longer in an Ohio prison

WAVERLY, Ohio — The man who is currently labeled as “Ohio’s worst killer” is no longer in the state where he was sentenced to serve multiple lives behind bars. George Wagner IV, seen here leaving t…

sciotovalleyguardian.com

6/20/23

As the dust begins to settle and Wagner files his appeals however, — his father who shares his namesake but goes by “Billy” is slated for trial next year — a new development arose that has reignited interest in the case. Wagner, originally confined in Ohio, was recently transferred to a prison in Rhode Island. This move, shrouded in mystery, has sparked a flurry of questions and speculations. But officials on both ends have kept their lips sealed, citing security reasons.

The elusive statement about Wagner’s status in Rhode Island was that he was being housed there under “an interstate-compact agreement” with Ohio. According to this agreement, one state can transfer its inmate to another state’s jurisdiction. This typically happens to facilitate specific requirements that the original state cannot provide, such as certain types of rehabilitation or security arrangements. It can also happen if there are threats to the inmate’s life, or if the inmate’s presence in a particular facility is a threat to others. The agreement ensures that the inmate’s sentence continues as if they were in their home state.

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1671837798419054592

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1671835938522054659

 

[Cool Cats]

Ohio’s worst killer, George Wagner is no longer in an Ohio prison

WAVERLY, Ohio — The man who is currently labeled as “Ohio’s worst killer” is no longer in the state where he was sentenced to serve multiple lives behind bars. George Wagner IV, seen here leaving t…

sciotovalleyguardian.com

6/20/23

As the dust begins to settle and Wagner files his appeals however, — his father who shares his namesake but goes by “Billy” is slated for trial next year — a new development arose that has reignited interest in the case. Wagner, originally confined in Ohio, was recently transferred to a prison in Rhode Island. This move, shrouded in mystery, has sparked a flurry of questions and speculations. But officials on both ends have kept their lips sealed, citing security reasons.

The elusive statement about Wagner’s status in Rhode Island was that he was being housed there under “an interstate-compact agreement” with Ohio. According to this agreement, one state can transfer its inmate to another state’s jurisdiction. This typically happens to facilitate specific requirements that the original state cannot provide, such as certain types of rehabilitation or security arrangements. It can also happen if there are threats to the inmate’s life, or if the inmate’s presence in a particular facility is a threat to others. The agreement ensures that the inmate’s sentence continues as if they were in their home state.

With George and all we have learned about him we can be pretty sure this is all bout security.

Remember his ranting on tape? Remember Canepa saying George was the most vocal in his threats of breaking out of jail and revenge on investigators including the Attorney General now Governor DeWine?

Running a bulldozer or some such nonsense through the jail I recall.

I believe it was for security reasons that George was transferred from Ross County jail to Montgomery County jail because this happened right around Jake's confession and Montgomery is farther away than Ross, it was much more inconvenient for him to be at Montgomery then to stay at Ross.

I think his "breaking out of jail" talk could play a role but I think this is primarily about alot of threats being directed towards him, alot of death threats. The Wagner's received death threats when living in Ohio before their move to AK. I remember there being a MSM link for this.

I think threats against George is the most likely reason but it is entirely possible that George was cussing and in an anger fit over Jake testifying against him and that George threatened Jake.

1.) George made revenge and jail break threats caught on tape back in 2017.
2.) George would have rage against Jake for turning State's evidence against him.
3.) George is most likely receiving death threats against him.

2 Cents

 

[Dhighsmith]

Finally, that’s the part I’m missing, threats to escape. I missed a few days of trial and this is some of the testimony I’ve never heard. So, not questioning his evil act but when he’s described as worst killer in Ohio history, the image that immediately comes to mind is of him hiding underneath truck and when told to shoot he fails to fire his gun.

With George and all we have learned about him we can be pretty sure this is all bout security.

Remember his ranting on tape? Remember Canepa saying George was the most vocal in his threats of breaking out of jail and revenge on investigators including the Attorney General now Governor DeWine?

Running a bulldozer or some such nonsense through the jail I recall.

I believe it was for security reasons that George was transferred from Ross County jail to Montgomery County jail because this happened right around Jake's confession and Montgomery is farther away than Ross, it was much more inconvenient for him to be at Montgomery then to stay at Ross.

I think his "breaking out of jail" talk could play a role but I think this is primarily about alot of threats being directed towards him, alot of death threats. The Wagner's received death threats when living in Ohio before their move to AK. I remember there being a MSM link for this.

I think threats against George is the most likely reason but it is entirely possible that George was cussing and in an anger fit over Jake testifying against him and that George threatened Jake.

1.) George made revenge and jail break threats caught on tape back in 2017.
2.) George would have rage against Jake for turning State's evidence against him.
3.) George is most likely receiving death threats against him.

2 Cents

 

[Fat Old Man]

Finally, that’s the part I’m missing, threats to escape. I missed a few days of trial and this is some of the testimony I’ve never heard. So, not questioning his evil act but when he’s described as worst killer in Ohio history, the image that immediately comes to mind is of him hiding underneath truck and when told to shoot he fails to fire his gun.

In my opinion I do think he shot, and hit Big Chris. But if he did freeze, like they say. I am sure that will haunt him, everyone in prison saying he choked under pressure. That he can not be counted on, and he will choke, if need to have someones back.

 

[arielilane]

I don't believe anything said by a pathological liar, and imo, the four Wagners are all pathological liars. Of course you can read between the lines and find some truth, but take anything said with a grain of salt. Does a liar even know the truth, when the liar lies so often?

Imo, W's thought GW4 had a chance... and wanted him to be able to stay on the outside.

Still got BW3 to go.

Moo

 

[arielilane]

"OH's worst killer" - embellish the narrative. Storytelling. moo