OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #50

[Loomis124]

If you are referring to a fight between CRsr and GWIII, there is no reputable source that can verify that fight happened. I have never read anywhere that there was a supposed fight at BBL...

Please don't try to make my opinion into something I did not say. That's why I said it was Just My Opinion.

 

[Loomis124]

BBM

519 entries regarding "Custody"
W's wanted control of the children.

We don't know about any shared business interests.

All we know is what the article states. It was information given by surviving family members. No reason for them to lie. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

Just sharing in memory of the Rhodens and Hannah Hazel Gilley...

Five weeks in, Pike County waits and hopes for answers in 8 killings

 

[Loomis124]

Relatives of some of the victims describe the relationship differently. They said Jake Wagner and his dad argued and fought with the Rhodens in the weeks just prior to the killings.

Rhoden family massacre: Arrests throw child custody issue back to Ohio courts

 

[bowler]

I believe the photos are horrendous. I really feel for those on the jury. It will be a very hard case no matter which defendant the jurors get.

I would think at the very least several photos of each crime scene and victim ...........then animated computer showing how it all happened.

 

[Yellowbeak]

It slows it down considerably on the outside but gut bacteria continues their life cycles internally. It would need to be extremely cold to slow/stop gut bacteria and then you would not be able to examine properly until the body thaws.

Thank you!

 

[OhioBlues]

All we know is what the article states. It was information given by surviving family members. No reason for them to lie. JMO

Which family members (the Wagner clan or the victims relatives)?

One side can benefit from claiming that during the trials.

 

[Cool Cats]

D

 

[Loomis124]

Which family members (the Wagner clan or the victims relatives)?

One side can benefit from claiming that during the trials.

Surviving members IMO are the Rhoden/ManleyGilley families. The Wagners lost no family. JMO

 

[OhioBlues]

Surviving members IMO are the Rhoden/ManleyGilley families. The Wagners lost no family. JMO

OK. That wasn't my interpretation. The murdered victims family can't speak out.

They will get justice one day.

 

[Howcanppldosuch]

Relatives of some of the victims describe the relationship differently. They said Jake Wagner and his dad argued and fought with the Rhodens in the weeks just prior to the killings.

Rhoden family massacre: Arrests throw child custody issue back to Ohio courts

It is pretty obvious there was some serious disagreements about custody, enough to make LM say very early on it could be a ‘child custody thing’

 

[Johnny B Bad]

OK. That wasn't my interpretation. The murdered victims family can't speak out.

They will get justice one day.

Sooner the Better!
Miss Angela and her boys was telling all the lies they could on the Rhodens and Manleys in every social media sites they could just to take the heat off their trail JMO, I really believe that Angela was PP on the shut down gossiping site, and I really think that the cheap tracker that LE put on James Manley truck was put there for a decoy to make the Wagners think they wasn’t watching them but all of you sleuthers know the first things that LE does in a murder case is to start gathering evidence, checking evidence information and go thru all social media sites, LE new the first couple weeks who did the murders but didn’t have what they needed for an arrest, did the Wagners really think if they took Dana and Hanna phones that LE wouldn’t know about all the custody threats and how the Rhodens where being spy on. The Wagners got a taste of their own medicine with the bugging of the Rhodens homes and stocking them, LE had every move the Wagners made under surveillance IMO, The Wagners where not as smart as they thought they were if so they would have got George the 4th to stay put in Alaska instead of coming back to Ohio to be arrested, I wonder why the Wagners quit their dream of living the life in Alaska?

 

[OhioBlues]

Sooner the Better!
Miss Angela and her boys was telling all the lies they could on the Rhodens and Manleys in every social media sites they could just to take the heat off their trail JMO, I really believe that Angela was PP on the shut down gossiping site, and I really think that the cheap tracker that LE put on James Manley truck was put there for a decoy to make the Wagners think they wasn’t watching them but all of you sleuthers know the first things that LE does in a murder case is to start gathering evidenc.he 4th to stay put in Alaska instead of coming back to Ohio to be arrested, I wonder why the Wagners quit their dream of living the life in Alaska?

My theory is the tracker on JM was a decoy but they intentionally made the W's think about trackers. That tracker seemed to lead to mistake after mistake by the Wagner clan. I would like to know if there was a tracker on one of the W's trailers that they left behind. Maybe they realized there was a tracker so they just parked it.

It's a great mystery to me why Billy Wagner is never mentioned. It's always Angela and the boys. I didn't know that Billy Wagner even existed til 2017.

Do you know when GW4 returned? I thought they arrested the W4 when the silencer report came back. AFAIK, they were not waiting for him to return but were waiting on a lab report.

 

[Cool Cats]

My theory is the tracker on JM was a decoy but they intentionally made the W's think about trackers. That tracker seemed to lead to mistake after mistake by the Wagner clan. I would like to know if there was a tracker on one of the W's trailers that they left behind. Maybe they realized there was a tracker so they just parked it.

It's a great mystery to me why Billy Wagner is never mentioned. It's always Angela and the boys. I didn't know that Billy Wagner even existed til 2017.

Do you know when GW4 returned? I thought they arrested the W4 when the silencer report came back. AFAIK, they were not waiting for him to return but were waiting on a lab report.

BBM
GW4 not coming back with his family originates from a poster thinking that because he never changed his Kenai residence on Facebook back to ohio, and because Angie wished him a happy birthday and said "we can't wait to see you in the morning" .......because of that the poster thought he had stayed in Alaska. If anyone remembers that discussion differently let me know.

The gas station owner said she saw the Wagners a lot starting in May 2018. There is no reason to think George wasn't one of them she saw, and when MSM articles say the Wagner's returned to Ohio in May 2018, there is no reason to think George wasn't one of them.
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They recovered a silencer (the maglite flashlight made into a silencer) in the well then sent it to the lab. It matched the parts to make a silencer they found. So they took it to the Grand Jury and they were indicted then arrested. I think the well search was done October 31st, exactly 2 weeks before their arrests.

This is only my opinion and my interpretation of the maglite found in the well and the silencer parts found in the searches (that these 2 things go together and the silencer is a maglite flashlight).
And it's only my opinion that GW4 did return with his family from Alaska and that GW4 staying in Alaska is just a rumor.

Just my take on things and I could be wrong of course.

 

[Antimony]

Anybody know the depth of the well where the silencer was found?
Or maybe an average or common well depth in that area.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Sooner the Better!
Miss Angela and her boys was telling all the lies they could on the Rhodens and Manleys in every social media sites they could just to take the heat off their trail JMO, I really believe that Angela was PP on the shut down gossiping site, and I really think that the cheap tracker that LE put on James Manley truck was put there for a decoy to make the Wagners think they wasn’t watching them but all of you sleuthers know the first things that LE does in a murder case is to start gathering evidence, checking evidence information and go thru all social media sites, LE new the first couple weeks who did the murders but didn’t have what they needed for an arrest, did the Wagners really think if they took Dana and Hanna phones that LE wouldn’t know about all the custody threats and how the Rhodens where being spy on. The Wagners got a taste of their own medicine with the bugging of the Rhodens homes and stocking them, LE had every move the Wagners made under surveillance IMO, The Wagners where not as smart as they thought they were if so they would have got George the 4th to stay put in Alaska instead of coming back to Ohio to be arrested, I wonder why the Wagners quit their dream of living the life in Alaska?

I wonder why the Wagners quit their dream of living the life in Alaska

BBM

Winter time.

JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

My theory is the tracker on JM was a decoy but they intentionally made the W's think about trackers. That tracker seemed to lead to mistake after mistake by the Wagner clan. I would like to know if there was a tracker on one of the W's trailers that they left behind. Maybe they realized there was a tracker so they just parked it.

It's a great mystery to me why Billy Wagner is never mentioned. It's always Angela and the boys. I didn't know that Billy Wagner even existed til 2017.

Do you know when GW4 returned? I thought they arrested the W4 when the silencer report came back. AFAIK, they were not waiting for him to return but were waiting on a lab report.

What ever day George the 4th birthday is was the same time he was on his way back from Alaska, she wished him a happy birthday and to be careful driving back from Alaska, it was on her FB but has been taking down

 

[Antimony]

I wonder why the Wagners quit their dream of living the life in Alaska

BBM

Winter time.

JMO

Alaska is a long way away from Grandma's house and money.
It would seem that, other than Fred, The Wagner's were not capable of supporting themselves. It is also cold, and the Wagner's wanted Nunavit.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Anybody know the depth of the well where the silencer was found?
Or maybe an average or common well depth in that area.

I like to know who informed the LE to where and what to look for, that day the ATF showed up they got the metal detectors out and started looking? JMO

 

[Dudly]

There have been discussions on the use of a .22 caliber gun being used to kill the Rhoden family. This site mentions that a .22LR can be lethal.

"Yes, a .22LR is a lethal caliber that absolutely can kill. A .22LR is more than enough bullet that, if it hits a vital structure, can bring about incapacitation or death."
".22LR has been used by assassins, with the specific intent to kill — and kill it can —"

.22LR For Defense? It’s About Probabilities, Not Possibilities